(01-29-2013 11:18 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote: [ -> ]http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013/01/17/hopkins-draft
Huge news for the CIC but I would think they would prefer the ACC. Also, I doubt that partial membership (similar to uchicago) is on the table.
So when he was talking about the Big East he meant the C7? None of the remaining three play Lacrosse and im not sure if any of the new schools play either.
(01-29-2013 11:18 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote: [ -> ]http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013/01/17/hopkins-draft
Huge news for the CIC but I would think they would prefer the ACC. Also, I doubt that partial membership (similar to uchicago) is on the table.
Chicago isn't a member of the Big Ten, only the CIC. Anybody offered membership in the CIC almost certainly takes it - other than certain schools where their athletic programs that would be forced into the Big Ten (Notre Dame, UNC, Texas).
Getting Hopkins would mean an eventual autobid for the B1G and the B1G network has more programming. Maryland, especially, has to be pushing for this after losing their ACC lacrosse rivals.
http://www.cic.net/Home/AboutCIC/CICUniversities.aspx
(01-29-2013 11:44 PM)NJRedMan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-29-2013 11:18 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote: [ -> ]http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013/01/17/hopkins-draft
Huge news for the CIC but I would think they would prefer the ACC. Also, I doubt that partial membership (similar to uchicago) is on the table.
So when he was talking about the Big East he meant the C7? None of the remaining three play Lacrosse and im not sure if any of the new schools play either.
Of the prospective C7 expansion schools, only Richmond will be playing lacrosse (Richmond just added it). Possibly, Creighton or St Louis could add it as a condition of membership.
If Hopkins didn't have interest when Syracuse and ND were members of the Big East, they won't now.
The C7 will have to try to pull UMass or St Joseph's from the Colonial lax league if Richmond doesn't get added. Then the Colonial would be down to five and they'd have to steal from somebody (like America East, which would also then be at 5).
CAA has 7 now. If the C7 schools don't start another MLax program over the presumed 2 year grace period for the AQ once they drop to 5, then they might look for an associate member like Fairfield (ECAC)
(01-29-2013 11:47 PM)NoDak Wrote: [ -> ] (01-29-2013 11:18 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote: [ -> ]http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013/01/17/hopkins-draft
Huge news for the CIC but I would think they would prefer the ACC. Also, I doubt that partial membership (similar to uchicago) is on the table.
Chicago isn't a member of the Big Ten, only the CIC. Anybody offered membership in the CIC almost certainly takes it - other than certain schools where their athletic programs that would be forced into the Big Ten (Notre Dame, UNC, Texas).
Getting Hopkins would mean an eventual autobid for the B1G and the B1G network has more programming. Maryland, especially, has to be pushing for this after losing their ACC lacrosse rivals.
http://www.cic.net/Home/AboutCIC/CICUniversities.aspx
Lacrosse emphasis is yet another reason why Duke and UVA both possibly end up in the B1G, along with UNC and one more team.
(01-30-2013 12:58 AM)AntiG Wrote: [ -> ]Lacrosse emphasis is yet another reason why Duke and UVA both possibly end up in the B1G, along with UNC and one more team.
Really? Over Lacrosse
With the additions we currently have and Cincy out there for the taking the ACC might well be willing to gibe the B1G both UVA and Duke.
Lacrosse is right up there with Crew and Volleyball, despite what the fans of schools with strong lacrosse would like to tell you.
Who had freaking lacrosse as the sport the B1G breaks the "no associate members" rule over?
(01-30-2013 12:20 AM)trephin Wrote: [ -> ]CAA has 7 now. If the C7 schools don't start another MLax program over the presumed 2 year grace period for the AQ once they drop to 5, then they might look for an associate member like Fairfield (ECAC)
Butler is a good candidate to add varsity lacrosse, which would bring the C7 to 6 in lacrosse, enough for an autobid.
The ACC doesn't need an autobid.
(01-30-2013 05:19 AM)justinslot Wrote: [ -> ]Who had freaking lacrosse as the sport the B1G breaks the "no associate members" rule over?
I'd sure make an exception to get Hopkins in if I were the B1G. Academic quality plus iconic national power in the sport.
Makes more sense to me if they went acc. That would be one tough league
(01-30-2013 02:34 AM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-30-2013 12:58 AM)AntiG Wrote: [ -> ]Lacrosse emphasis is yet another reason why Duke and UVA both possibly end up in the B1G, along with UNC and one more team.
Really? Over Lacrosse
With the additions we currently have and Cincy out there for the taking the ACC might well be willing to gibe the B1G both UVA and Duke.
Lacrosse is right up there with Crew and Volleyball, despite what the fans of schools with strong lacrosse would like to tell you.
I'll tell you this - lacrosse, while not a money sport in terms of bringing in fans and selling tix/apparel... the players themselves often come from influential families and their alumni usually end up in positions of power (head traders, CEOs, high-ranking executives, politicians) in all different industries, especially in the Northeast Corridor. Being that the B1G is so money-driven at this point, lacrosse has a lot more pull than you'd expect.
The Maryland-Hopkins rivalry game will happen every year, regardless of which league the Terps and the Jays end up playing in.
(01-29-2013 11:57 PM)NoDak Wrote: [ -> ] (01-29-2013 11:44 PM)NJRedMan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-29-2013 11:18 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote: [ -> ]http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013/01/17/hopkins-draft
Huge news for the CIC but I would think they would prefer the ACC. Also, I doubt that partial membership (similar to uchicago) is on the table.
So when he was talking about the Big East he meant the C7? None of the remaining three play Lacrosse and im not sure if any of the new schools play either.
Of the prospective C7 expansion schools, only Richmond will be playing lacrosse (Richmond just added it). Possibly, Creighton or St Louis could add it as a condition of membership.
If Hopkins didn't have interest when Syracuse and ND were members of the Big East, they won't now.
The C7 will have to try to pull UMass or St Joseph's from the Colonial lax league if Richmond doesn't get added. Then the Colonial would be down to five and they'd have to steal from somebody (like America East, which would also then be at 5).
I was just asking if thats who he meant. I don't think the Aresco league will sponsor LAX.
It would be interesting to see how strong the CIC can get.
In the academic world, there's a big rift between the Ivy League and the CIC. They're fundamentally different. The Ivies are super-elite, but small and elitist. The Big 10/CIC schools are huge and leverage their size to have experts in nearly every field available on campus (if you go to any random academic conference, odds are that 1/3 of attendees are from Big 10 schools). The Ivies knock the Big 10 for having lower admission standards, while the Big 10 knocks the Ivies for being elitist and snobbish. The rivalry is compounded and reinforced by regional stereotypes (elitist New England snobs vs simple Midwestern farmers).
Just last year, one of the Ivy League presidents actually suggested that the Big 10 schools drop graduate education, and let schools like the Ivies to train the next generation of professors. It caused a huge hubub.
It would be interesting to see where schools like Duke and Johns Hopkins sit on this debate.
Looks like the Big 10 finally found Terry's frog...
When did University of New Orleans get into the C7?
(01-30-2013 05:19 AM)justinslot Wrote: [ -> ]Who had freaking lacrosse as the sport the B1G breaks the "no associate members" rule over?
I didn't. But what else could it be? Certainly not men's soccer, although the B1G will have nine members in that sport when Maryland and Rutgers arrive.
(01-30-2013 04:06 PM)jdgaucho Wrote: [ -> ] (01-30-2013 05:19 AM)justinslot Wrote: [ -> ]Who had freaking lacrosse as the sport the B1G breaks the "no associate members" rule over?
I didn't. But what else could it be? Certainly not men's soccer, although the B1G will have nine members in that sport when Maryland and Rutgers arrive.
I may be wrong, but this might not be breaking the "no associate members" rule. Johns Hopkins is only D-1 in one sport. The Big Ten could be their home for all of their Division One sports.
(01-31-2013 07:24 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: [ -> ] (01-30-2013 04:06 PM)jdgaucho Wrote: [ -> ] (01-30-2013 05:19 AM)justinslot Wrote: [ -> ]Who had freaking lacrosse as the sport the B1G breaks the "no associate members" rule over?
I didn't. But what else could it be? Certainly not men's soccer, although the B1G will have nine members in that sport when Maryland and Rutgers arrive.
I may be wrong, but this might not be breaking the "no associate members" rule. Johns Hopkins is only D-1 in one sport. The Big Ten could be their home for all of their Division One sports.
That's one way of looking at it.
Would be a beneficial move for both sides and arguably as regional as their potential leagues would get.