CSNbbs

WOW! Miami was up by 21 points with 10 minutes to go in the 2nd half and Buffalo goes on a 24-4 run but Miami holds on to win by 1. Good game Bulls. Miami wins, but this squad wins by 1 and is a streaky team.

Rockets beat Chips in overtime!!

(01-12-2013 09:47 PM)Time4Church8 Wrote: [ -> ]Rockets beat Chips in overtime!!

Did the Rockets acquire some new advanced rocket fuel or something? Well, get it out or your system before you play us.

(01-12-2013 10:32 PM)NIU007 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-12-2013 09:47 PM)Time4Church8 Wrote: [ -> ]Rockets beat Chips in overtime!!

Did the Rockets acquire some new advanced rocket fuel or something? Well, get it out or your system before you play us.

We did not look sharp at all defensively- Randall just took the ball to the rack with no artifice over and over -we had no answer. NIU should give up their football program if they don't beat us by twenty both times.

Ohio, Akron, Miami and Kent St with road wins.

MAC West flunked the test. East is superior

(01-13-2013 02:05 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ]MAC West flunked the test. East is superior

Just because West flunked the test, doesn't mean they flunked the class. Plenty of season left.

(01-13-2013 09:23 AM)bobcat95 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-13-2013 02:05 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ]MAC West flunked the test. East is superior

Just because West flunked the test, doesn't mean they flunked the class. Plenty of season left.

Based on 5 consecutive years of flunking the class should we expect anything different from the MAC West in 2013?

Akron and Ohio will skew the results.

(01-13-2013 02:00 PM)Louis Kitton Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-13-2013 09:23 AM)bobcat95 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-13-2013 02:05 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ]MAC West flunked the test. East is superior

Just because West flunked the test, doesn't mean they flunked the class. Plenty of season left.

Based on 5 consecutive years of flunking the class should we expect anything different from the MAC West in 2013?

Well, the perrennial Best in the East isn't this year and already has a home loss to a West team, so that's different. There appear to be a number of weak sisters in the West, along with three pretty good teams. Its going to be a battle to see who's the tallest midget anyway but the West may have grown an inch since last year.

(01-13-2013 03:07 PM)EA3 Wrote: [ -> ]Akron and Ohio will skew the results.

as evidenced by yesterday's huge OHIO win and Akron's win.

(01-13-2013 07:41 PM)bobcat_backer Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-13-2013 03:07 PM)EA3 Wrote: [ -> ]Akron and Ohio will skew the results.

as evidenced by yesterday's huge OHIO win and Akron's win.

Unless my sarcasm radar is way off (and you really believe OU's win at Western Michigan was really huge), I'm not seeing what is wrong with EA3's assessment.

He has it nailed. Akron and Ohio are the two best teams in the league, they both play in the east and they both have played two western teams so far. So yes, Akron and Ohio have skewed the overall results.

The west has closed the gap on the east, outside the top two. Whether that is due to the west getting better, or the east (outside of Akron and Ohio) getting worse, that is up for debate.

Personally, I think it's a little bit of both, once you exclude Akron and Ohio, the gap is closing between the two divisions. Unfortunately for the west fans, neither Akron or Ohio appear to be going away anytime soon. Both already have more talent and are bringing in higher-quality future talent than the other schools.

(01-13-2013 09:04 PM)Wadszip Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-13-2013 07:41 PM)bobcat_backer Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-13-2013 03:07 PM)EA3 Wrote: [ -> ]Akron and Ohio will skew the results.

as evidenced by yesterday's huge OHIO win and Akron's win.

Unless my sarcasm radar is way off (and you really believe OU's win at Western Michigan was really huge), I'm not seeing what is wrong with EA3's assessment.

He has it nailed. Akron and Ohio are the two best teams in the league, they both play in the east and they both have played two western teams so far. So yes, Akron and Ohio have skewed the overall results.

The west has closed the gap on the east, outside the top two. Whether that is due to the west getting better, or the east (outside of Akron and Ohio) getting worse, that is up for debate.

Personally, I think it's a little bit of both, once you exclude Akron and Ohio, the gap is closing between the two divisions. Unfortunately for the west fans, neither Akron or Ohio appear to be going away anytime soon. Both already have more talent and are bringing in higher-quality future talent than the other schools.

i really do believe Ohio's win yesterday was huge. it was our first win on the road this season; it was a MAC win on the road against a West contender; and, it was Western's first loss at home all year. that qualifies as huge to me.

and i totally agree that Ohio and Akron will skew the results as both teams should win the majority (if not all) of their West encounters.

Ohio rpi climbed 40 spots beating a top 125 rpi team on the road in WMU. Ohio's rpi 133. If Ohio can win the next three games they may get a tv bracketbuster game. Amazing how those number improve when you beat a top 200 rpi team on the road by 2 points. Ohio hasn't beaten many top 150 teams yet. WMU was a start.

(01-13-2013 09:33 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote: [ -> ]Ohio rpi climbed 40 spots beating a top 125 rpi team on the road in WMU. Ohio's rpi 133. If Ohio can win the next three games they may get a tv bracketbuster game. Amazing how those number improve when you beat a top 200 rpi team on the road by 2 points. Ohio hasn't beaten many top 150 teams yet. WMU was a start.

Welcome to the sad state that is MAC hoops. One of our top teams is hoping to get a TV BB game. We should have like four or five teams televised regularly. The expectations were high for Ohio this season and I can't help but say they have been a bit of a let down. I still think they can win the MAC but I thought OOC would have been stronger.

I think Ohio's problem is that they played plenty of cupcakes but not many mid-level teams, and that didn't really prepare them for the tougher games like Umass and Memphis. Ohio played the weskest OOC schedule in the MAC this year.

Speaking of that, the MAC's new rules for OOC scheduling seem to have gone into effect, and nobody's played a 300+ ranked non-conference schedule this season. This year there will be growing pains, but i think that we'll eventually improve as a conference because of that.

(01-13-2013 10:12 PM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ]I think Ohio's problem is that they played plenty of cupcakes but not many mid-level teams, and that didn't really prepare them for the tougher games like Umass and Memphis. Ohio played the weskest OOC schedule in the MAC this year.

Speaking of that, the MAC's new rules for OOC scheduling seem to have gone into effect, and nobody's played a 300+ ranked non-conference schedule this season. This year there will be growing pains, but i think that we'll eventually improve as a conference because of that.

Can you elaborate on how the new scheduling philosophy works? Is there a link or something on it? I think its a good idea but I would like to track the progress.

(01-13-2013 10:16 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-13-2013 10:12 PM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ]I think Ohio's problem is that they played plenty of cupcakes but not many mid-level teams, and that didn't really prepare them for the tougher games like Umass and Memphis. Ohio played the weskest OOC schedule in the MAC this year.

Speaking of that, the MAC's new rules for OOC scheduling seem to have gone into effect, and nobody's played a 300+ ranked non-conference schedule this season. This year there will be growing pains, but i think that we'll eventually improve as a conference because of that.

Can you elaborate on how the new scheduling philosophy works? Is there a link or something on it? I think its a good idea but I would like to track the progress.

There was a thread a while back, but I don't remember what it was called.

It boils down to this:

The MAC basketball payout from the NCAA is split up into units, and meeting certain criteria gets you more units. They're basically telling teams that aren't serious about basketball that they won't get paid anymore if they don't shape up.

All MAC basketball teams must have a rolling two-year average of 15 home games to qualify for any shares beyond the base payout, which is now significantly smaller than the 1/12th share from past years.

Win the MAC tournament, you get more shares. Win the regular season, you get more shares.

Nonconference winning percentage is at a certain level, you get more shares. If your RPI is at a certain level, you get more shares.

Make a post-season tournament, you get more shares, with the number dependent on which one.

The list goes on.

(01-13-2013 10:12 PM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ]I think Ohio's problem is that they played plenty of cupcakes but not many mid-level teams, and that didn't really prepare them for the tougher games like Umass and Memphis. Ohio played the weskest OOC schedule in the MAC this year.

Just wondering but who were these mid-level teams that Akron played that had them prepared for their schedule? Not exactly seeing the difference in the results of the tougher games like UMass (Detroit) and Memphis (Creighton).

Penn State, Princeton, and Cleveland State.