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I posted this is another thread, but I think it deserves it's own thread.

If you're an FSU fan and really want to understand what NIU is doing offense, read this and watch the videos and try to understand what I'm saying.

This is pure power football. 5 OL, 2 TEs, 2 TEs/FBs, 1 RB (who motions out to WR). Then it's Lynch running. It's pure hat on a hat, here's the run come try to stop it.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8696299
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8696304
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8696653

That's literally the same play 3 times from Friday night. Do you not think Kent knew what was coming? It's about numbers and execution and Lynch being such a good runner.

Then there's the spread. 5 OL, 5 WRs, completely empty backfield other than Lynch. Look how it forces Iowa to line up. 5 DBs outside the hash marks, 4 down lineman, 1 LB, 1 deep safety. Watch the inside corner at the top of the screen. He turns his head because he has to respect the bubble screen up top. NIU will throw the bubble out of this, it's not just window dressing. The guard pulls and kicks out the end, the RT gets to the 2nd level and blocks the LB, Lynch makes the safety miss, 70 yards TD. It's an extremely difficult play to stop because of how spread out it forces you to be.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8326924

Same thing here. 5 linemen, 4 WR, 1 RB (Daniels). Ball State is in a 4-2-5. Watch the OLB at the top of the screen. The OLB has to respect the bubble screen action with Lewis, keeping him outside. He literally only takes 2-3 shuffles and it eliminates him from the play. Lynch is designed to run behind Daniels, which the LB reads and fills. Lynch seeing that right away, runs up the middle through the other hole. The safety takes a bad angle, Lynch breaks his tackle, and runs 70 yards for a TD.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8471113

And after you're looking at that all game, this happens. Same personnel group as the Iowa play. 5 WRs, with 3 to the bottom of the screen. Kansas' defense is completely spread out. Watch the inside DB and the safety at the top of the screen. They read run and come up to run fill. Lynch starts to run, sees the DBs filling run, and dumps it off to a wide open Moore who runs for a TD. The DBs correctly read run on this play. The offensive line is run blocking, the right guard is pulling. Look at the bottom of the screen. Lewis is running a bubble. Lynch has the option to run, throw the bubble to the bottom of the screen, or do what he does and dump it to Moore.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8412105

NIU runs the modern form of the triple option from time to time. In the first half of the Toledo game, Toledo did a really good job stopping Lynch running up the middle because they were having their ends force it inside where they had their linebackers waiting. So in the third quarter, NIU came out and ran triple option. It's not the triple option you're thinking of though. It's out of the spread. It's one back out of the pistol or shotgun with 3-5 WRs and maybe a TE. Lynch can hand it to the RB, keep it and run it himself, or he can throw the bubble screen. NIU ran that play probably 10 times in the 2nd half Toledo and they gained 400 yards in the third quarter because of it.





That's exactly what makes NIU's offense so difficult to stop.

Also, there's no doubt Florida State has more depth than NIU. FSU's backups are more talented than NIU's backups, etc. Maybe FSU's backups are more talented than NIU's starters, but NIU has depth and is going to play a lot of guys. We're constantly rotating WRs, RBs (although less so lately), and even OL. On defense, we go 7-8 deep on the d-line and play 4 LBs. We also rotate in the secondary. It's not like it's going to get late and FSU will have been rotating guys in and NIU hasn't been. We're constantly subbing players, which you will see.

Lastly, Avis Commack was one of your talented backups, and well, um


Awesome breakdown 04-rock
Why are you organizing this info for them?
(12-04-2012 01:10 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: [ -> ]Why are you organizing this info for them?

Damn you 7! Now they know everything! haha
(12-04-2012 01:10 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: [ -> ]Why are you organizing this info for them?

Seriously. The Florida State coaches would never know what's coming if not for this thread.
I was just trying to figure out the purpose of assembling all that info, not suggesting we handed over Carey's green notebook...
Some Florida State fan said we needed to win the TOP battle. The lack of knowledge about our offense triggered something haha.
(12-04-2012 02:58 AM)7 Wrote: [ -> ]Some Florida State fan said we needed to win the TOP battle. The lack of knowledge about our offense triggered something haha.

More power to you, interesting read.
(12-04-2012 02:53 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: [ -> ]I was just trying to figure out the purpose of assembling all that info, not suggesting we handed over Carey's green notebook...

Haha, I'm just giving you a hard time. I found it interesting, and I think it would be a great read/watch for anybody who might be hanging around here that generally doesn't follow the team as much as many of us do, but is excited about the Orange Bowl.
(12-04-2012 02:24 AM)NIUHuskies86 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2012 01:10 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: [ -> ]Why are you organizing this info for them?

Seriously. The Florida State coaches would never know what's coming if not for this thread.

I am sure that they will spend a lot of time reviewing our game videos
(12-04-2012 12:58 AM)7 Wrote: [ -> ]I posted this is another thread, but I think it deserves it's own thread.

If you're an FSU fan and really want to understand what NIU is doing offense, read this and watch the videos and try to understand what I'm saying.

This is pure power football. 5 OL, 2 TEs, 2 TEs/FBs, 1 RB (who motions out to WR). Then it's Lynch running. It's pure hat on a hat, here's the run come try to stop it.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8696299
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8696304
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8696653

That's literally the same play 3 times from Friday night. Do you not think Kent knew what was coming? It's about numbers and execution and Lynch being such a good runner.

Then there's the spread. 5 OL, 5 WRs, completely empty backfield other than Lynch. Look how it forces Iowa to line up. 5 DBs outside the hash marks, 4 down lineman, 1 LB, 1 deep safety. Watch the inside corner at the top of the screen. He turns his head because he has to respect the bubble screen up top. NIU will throw the bubble out of this, it's not just window dressing. The guard pulls and kicks out the end, the RT gets to the 2nd level and blocks the LB, Lynch makes the safety miss, 70 yards TD. It's an extremely difficult play to stop because of how spread out it forces you to be.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8326924

Same thing here. 5 linemen, 4 WR, 1 RB (Daniels). Ball State is in a 4-2-5. Watch the OLB at the top of the screen. The OLB has to respect the bubble screen action with Lewis, keeping him outside. He literally only takes 2-3 shuffles and it eliminates him from the play. Lynch is designed to run behind Daniels, which the LB reads and fills. Lynch seeing that right away, runs up the middle through the other hole. The safety takes a bad angle, Lynch breaks his tackle, and runs 70 yards for a TD.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8471113

And after you're looking at that all game, this happens. Same personnel group as the Iowa play. 5 WRs, with 3 to the bottom of the screen. Kansas' defense is completely spread out. Watch the inside DB and the safety at the top of the screen. They read run and come up to run fill. Lynch starts to run, sees the DBs filling run, and dumps it off to a wide open Moore who runs for a TD. The DBs correctly read run on this play. The offensive line is run blocking, the right guard is pulling. Look at the bottom of the screen. Lewis is running a bubble. Lynch has the option to run, throw the bubble to the bottom of the screen, or do what he does and dump it to Moore.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8412105

NIU runs the modern form of the triple option from time to time. In the first half of the Toledo game, Toledo did a really good job stopping Lynch running up the middle because they were having their ends force it inside where they had their linebackers waiting. So in the third quarter, NIU came out and ran triple option. It's not the triple option you're thinking of though. It's out of the spread. It's one back out of the pistol or shotgun with 3-5 WRs and maybe a TE. Lynch can hand it to the RB, keep it and run it himself, or he can throw the bubble screen. NIU ran that play probably 10 times in the 2nd half Toledo and they gained 400 yards in the third quarter because of it.





That's exactly what makes NIU's offense so difficult to stop.

Also, there's no doubt Florida State has more depth than NIU. FSU's backups are more talented than NIU's backups, etc. Maybe FSU's backups are more talented than NIU's starters, but NIU has depth and is going to play a lot of guys. We're constantly rotating WRs, RBs (although less so lately), and even OL. On defense, we go 7-8 deep on the d-line and play 4 LBs. We also rotate in the secondary. It's not like it's going to get late and FSU will have been rotating guys in and NIU hasn't been. We're constantly subbing players, which you will see.

Lastly, Avis Commack was one of your talented backups, and well, um




Nice read....but fsu d-line and o-line is much bigger and faster then anyone you have played! Is Jordan lynch going to get some yards? Sure....but your line will get blown up!!! There is nothing northern illinios can really do....only way fsu loses is if they turn ball over....also seeing as it will be pretty much a home game for fsu...it will be loudest game your players have ever played in....just saying
Good point. We've never played anyone in a hostile stadium with five-star recruits. May as well stay home.

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Yeah NIU has never played a BCS team in an NFL stadium and been greatly outnumbered in fans before. Never ever.
(12-04-2012 08:51 AM)Philly1021 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2012 12:58 AM)7 Wrote: [ -> ]I posted this is another thread, but I think it deserves it's own thread.

If you're an FSU fan and really want to understand what NIU is doing offense, read this and watch the videos and try to understand what I'm saying.

This is pure power football. 5 OL, 2 TEs, 2 TEs/FBs, 1 RB (who motions out to WR). Then it's Lynch running. It's pure hat on a hat, here's the run come try to stop it.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8696299
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8696304
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8696653

That's literally the same play 3 times from Friday night. Do you not think Kent knew what was coming? It's about numbers and execution and Lynch being such a good runner.

Then there's the spread. 5 OL, 5 WRs, completely empty backfield other than Lynch. Look how it forces Iowa to line up. 5 DBs outside the hash marks, 4 down lineman, 1 LB, 1 deep safety. Watch the inside corner at the top of the screen. He turns his head because he has to respect the bubble screen up top. NIU will throw the bubble out of this, it's not just window dressing. The guard pulls and kicks out the end, the RT gets to the 2nd level and blocks the LB, Lynch makes the safety miss, 70 yards TD. It's an extremely difficult play to stop because of how spread out it forces you to be.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8326924

Same thing here. 5 linemen, 4 WR, 1 RB (Daniels). Ball State is in a 4-2-5. Watch the OLB at the top of the screen. The OLB has to respect the bubble screen action with Lewis, keeping him outside. He literally only takes 2-3 shuffles and it eliminates him from the play. Lynch is designed to run behind Daniels, which the LB reads and fills. Lynch seeing that right away, runs up the middle through the other hole. The safety takes a bad angle, Lynch breaks his tackle, and runs 70 yards for a TD.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8471113

And after you're looking at that all game, this happens. Same personnel group as the Iowa play. 5 WRs, with 3 to the bottom of the screen. Kansas' defense is completely spread out. Watch the inside DB and the safety at the top of the screen. They read run and come up to run fill. Lynch starts to run, sees the DBs filling run, and dumps it off to a wide open Moore who runs for a TD. The DBs correctly read run on this play. The offensive line is run blocking, the right guard is pulling. Look at the bottom of the screen. Lewis is running a bubble. Lynch has the option to run, throw the bubble to the bottom of the screen, or do what he does and dump it to Moore.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8412105

NIU runs the modern form of the triple option from time to time. In the first half of the Toledo game, Toledo did a really good job stopping Lynch running up the middle because they were having their ends force it inside where they had their linebackers waiting. So in the third quarter, NIU came out and ran triple option. It's not the triple option you're thinking of though. It's out of the spread. It's one back out of the pistol or shotgun with 3-5 WRs and maybe a TE. Lynch can hand it to the RB, keep it and run it himself, or he can throw the bubble screen. NIU ran that play probably 10 times in the 2nd half Toledo and they gained 400 yards in the third quarter because of it.





That's exactly what makes NIU's offense so difficult to stop.

Also, there's no doubt Florida State has more depth than NIU. FSU's backups are more talented than NIU's backups, etc. Maybe FSU's backups are more talented than NIU's starters, but NIU has depth and is going to play a lot of guys. We're constantly rotating WRs, RBs (although less so lately), and even OL. On defense, we go 7-8 deep on the d-line and play 4 LBs. We also rotate in the secondary. It's not like it's going to get late and FSU will have been rotating guys in and NIU hasn't been. We're constantly subbing players, which you will see.

Lastly, Avis Commack was one of your talented backups, and well, um




Nice read....but fsu d-line and o-line is much bigger and faster then anyone you have played! Is Jordan lynch going to get some yards? Sure....but your line will get blown up!!! There is nothing northern illinios can really do....only way fsu loses is if they turn ball over....also seeing as it will be pretty much a home game for fsu...it will be loudest game your players have ever played in....just saying

I don't get it, why is a Bama fan trolling our site instigating with the played "NIU hasn't seen anybody like Werner..." Bit?

Ill tell you a great story. About 10 years ago I convinced 7 of my fraternity brothers to take a road trip to this dump town in Alabama to watch us play the freakin' southern golden children and all of their glorious SEC size and speed. The most memorable part of the trip was listening to the Alabama PRE-game radio during tailgating. It was such a homerific, SEC-entric, elitist rant I couldn't believe it. Moral of the rant was NIU's Michael Turner hadn't seen the size and speed he'd see that day and no way they'd be able I move that ball and then some hilarity about how it was pretty warm that day and a school from way up North would t know how to handle that (dudes clearly have never left 'Bama).

I know your familiar with the outcome of that game and if it weren't for a late TD it wouldn't have even been that close. Turner got his yards (130 or so I believe) and we had success through the air as well.

So we've heard this rhetoric our entire lives about NIU football, so go take that warn out schtick somewhere else. Besides isn't their a sale on ugly ass chevron hats and trees to poison today? You shouldn't be distracted by some lowly directional school that ain't worth the pot you piss in. Roll Tide...we did exactly that on that glorious day in 03.
NIU undefeated against Roll Tide.
You guys beat Bama in 2003 when they were down!!! Give me a break...
(12-04-2012 11:59 AM)Philly1021 Wrote: [ -> ]You guys beat Bama in 2003 when they were down!!! Give me a break...

Yes you were down. We beat you one week after you lost to #1 Oklahoma in OT. The rails didn't fall off until we beat you.
(12-04-2012 11:59 AM)Philly1021 Wrote: [ -> ]You guys beat Bama in 2003 when they were down!!! Give me a break...

You are right, Bama was down.....
Just like we are down this year but we will have to wait
and see how well we do against FSU this year....
Maybe the 5 first year OL and first year QB will play
well enough to keep it interesting. It is nice that they
got this bowl game during the down year to warm up
against FSU for next year.....next year they should be better.
They were ranked 21 the day we played.
Awesome read 7, nicely done.
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