Is it possible that byu has not joined because the big east is still in their negotiations with the tv networks?
I would be very happy to see byu join along with fresno state and airforce.
Grant the 3rd tier tv rights and I believe it could still happen.
Every day (and realignment) that goes by makes it less likely that BYU joins the BigEast
(11-28-2012 07:57 PM)ohiobyufan Wrote: [ -> ]Is it possible that byu has not joined because the big east is still in their negotiations with the tv networks?
I would be very happy to see byu join along with fresno state and airforce.
Grant the 3rd tier tv rights and I believe it could still happen.
It's not happening.
Quick thought: Barry Trammel put out a column today calling Louisville the school that got way from the Big 12, and says that looking at BYU/Boise out West is the Big 12's best option if they ever look to expand.
If that were to happen, BYU and Boise St. as football-onlies to the Big 12 is intriguing. The negatives of BYU (Sunday play, TV issues, distance) and Boise (academics, distance, weaker other sports) are sort of obviated by being football only. The Big 12 gets to 12 and a championship game, adds two school that put eyes on TV, but doesn't add much of the baggage they might otherwise get. Plus, the transition for each school is easy: no buy-outs and lengthy waits.
Agree it's very, Very unlikely. But BYU would strengthen any conference except for SEC and B1G, so I would guess that the Big East either is working on it's "best offer", or else is satisfied that they've already made their best offer and BYU rejected it.
If Boise State brings no real bump to the table for a Big Eastn television deal, then how do they bring $20 million to the table to pull their own weight in the Big XII . . .unless they expect something for nothing.
(11-28-2012 08:13 PM)UHCougar Wrote: [ -> ]If Boise State brings no real bump to the table for a Big Eastn television deal, then how do they bring $20 million to the table to pull their own weight in the Big XII . . .unless they expect something for nothing.
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Boise is like a really nice stereo in an aging 1988 Mustang. Sure, it's a great radio, but it's not going to make you drop an extra thousand on the 'stang.
Texas will only agree to add teams they can beat . . . Oh heck, there goes Tulane. . .
(11-28-2012 08:00 PM)San Juan Sun Wrote: [ -> ]Barry Trammel put out a column today calling Louisville the school that got way from the Big 12
What evidence that Big12 wants/wanted Louisville?
Quote:BYU/Boise out West is the Big 12's best option if they ever look to expand.
That is an intriguing idea, as you said. I tend to think the Big 12-2 will stand pat for a while, but if they are willing to add football-onlys those two would be a strong pair.
Quote: The negatives of BYU (Sunday play, TV issues, distance) and Boise (academics, distance, weaker other sports) are sort of obviated by being football only. The Big 12 gets to 12 and a championship game, adds two school that put eyes on TV, but doesn't add much of the baggage they might otherwise get. Plus, the transition for each school is easy: no buy-outs and lengthy waits.
All true.
Um, Boise come 7/1 would have a $10 million exit fee just like anyone else in the Big East.
(11-28-2012 08:45 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]Um, Boise come 7/1 would have a $10 million exit fee just like anyone else in the Big East.
Then I guess they'd better move fast.
(11-28-2012 08:45 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]Um, Boise come 7/1 would have a $10 million exit fee just like anyone else in the Big East.
Where are they going to go? The bottom line is the Big East is their only chance at TV revenue over $800,000. So even if the Big East deal comes in at half of what they were expecting it is still more than 5 times what they would get from the MWC.
(11-28-2012 09:29 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote: [ -> ]Where are they going to go? The bottom line is the Big East is their only chance at TV revenue over $800,000.
The Mtn. is really that bad off?
(11-28-2012 10:15 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2012 09:29 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote: [ -> ]Where are they going to go? The bottom line is the Big East is their only chance at TV revenue over $800,000.
The Mtn. is really that bad off?
Yes.
Considering to go back to the MWC now, they would have to pay 5 million to the Big East, 2-3 to the Big West, and then the entrance fee to the MWC- it's probably close to 10 million right now. Unless the Big East only gives Boise like 1.5 million would it not be practical for them to stay in the Big East. Boise in a lot of ways is between a rock and a hard place.....
(11-28-2012 08:10 PM)Wolfman Wrote: [ -> ]BYU and AF just said no...again.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...ish----byu
Mike Aresco and the Deseret News both already denied the CBS report, said it was wrong. Source besides Aresco was somebody named Williams from a Washington outlet, IIRC.
(11-28-2012 10:15 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2012 09:29 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote: [ -> ]Where are they going to go? The bottom line is the Big East is their only chance at TV revenue over $800,000.
The Mtn. is really that bad off?
no the 800K does not include tier 3 rights which each university is selling on their own. MWC can also renegotiate anytime by going to 12 and a championship game as per Boise Paper.
MWC Ad said this 800K deal was a one year bridge contract for the MWC with the MTN tTV channel dying until a new TV contract could be negotiated.
Once MWC knows who is in or out a new TV deal will be finalized.
(11-28-2012 10:19 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2012 10:15 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2012 09:29 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote: [ -> ]Where are they going to go? The bottom line is the Big East is their only chance at TV revenue over $800,000.
The Mtn. is really that bad off?
Yes.
Considering to go back to the MWC now, they would have to pay 5 million to the Big East, 2-3 to the Big West, and then the entrance fee to the MWC- it's probably close to 10 million right now. Unless the Big East only gives Boise like 1.5 million would it not be practical for them to stay in the Big East. Boise in a lot of ways is between a rock and a hard place.....
I would not say they are between a rock and a hard place....Now if the TV contract the Big East gets comes in way lower that what is expected now after the additional conference changes then maybe so but even it comes in on the low end of the estimates they would still be getting 4 times more then they would in the MWC, still a pretty good deal. The Big East needs to move quickly and get their TV deal done before any more movement. Once they have something in writing where they can show some of the western schools proof that they would be able to increase their revenue 4 or 5 times over it would be very difficult for any of them to say no.
Just have to hold it together long enough to get the TV deal worked out and then that would provide some solidarity amoung the Big East membership because for most of those involved they will get substantially more money collectively then they could by going back to where they came from or joining another conference. Sure, this is not the case if someone were to get the call up from one of the "Big 5" conferences but the truth of the matter is there are very few that have even a slight chance at that happening anytime soon.
(11-28-2012 10:34 PM)billings Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2012 10:15 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2012 09:29 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote: [ -> ]Where are they going to go? The bottom line is the Big East is their only chance at TV revenue over $800,000.
The Mtn. is really that bad off?
no the 800K does not include tier 3 rights which each university is selling on their own. MWC can also renegotiate anytime by going to 12 and a championship game as per Boise Paper.
MWC Ad said this 800K deal was a one year bridge contract for the MWC with the MTN tTV channel dying until a new TV contract could be negotiated.
Once MWC knows who is in or out a new TV deal will be finalized.
I am sure you could get a bit of an increase but with all of the TV dollars being tied to TV sets you guys will still come in substantially less then what the Big East will be able to get. The problem you guys will have is your contract will not be on the open market so the chances of any huge bump are slim to none...You are still tied into your contract, no way they will give you a huge bump when they already have you by the short hairs. In regards to Tier 3 rights, we all know for most schools these rights generate very little additional TV revenue, how much are you guys currently getting for your Tier 3 rights???