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Is Blaudschun bi-polar, or is the wild mood swing due to new information? http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=3785#more-3785

(11-26-2012 09:11 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote: [ -> ]Is Blaudschun bi-polar, or is the wild mood swing due to new information? http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=3785#more-3785

The big east still remains the best non bcs conference. With the new 6 bowl deal anyone not in the big 5 conferences is better off in the big east.

As a byu fan from ohio I still hope the tv issues can be worked out.

I have seen the big east as a collection of teams that will be very competitive. This equal competition will help each team grow their programs just like what happened with mwc with tcu, utah and byu.

I know there are some boise state and sandiego state fans that hate byu, but with byu joining the conference it would help all three teams to continue to grow.

The only problem is that most byu fans do not view joining the big east in the same positive manner as I do. I just don't see a pac12 or big12 invite any time soon if ever. Why not join the best of the rest and have a fun, competiitve conference with national exposure and continue to build up our program.

3rd thier tv rights are a necessity, and a few bb games h/h with some of the big east teams would be very helpful.

go cougars go byu

Well the very first thing that needs to be done Today is announce Memphis to the East as Rutgers replacement when Rutgers leaves. If UL, UC are still here We want them in our division. ECU should get the other slot in the East. No Villanova, UMass FB. BYU, Fresno, USM should be added to West. This is only a start.

(11-26-2012 09:52 AM)ohiobyufan Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2012 09:11 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote: [ -> ]Is Blaudschun bi-polar, or is the wild mood swing due to new information? http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=3785#more-3785

The big east still remains the best non bcs conference. With the new 6 bowl deal anyone not in the big 5 conferences is better off in the big east.

As a byu fan from ohio I still hope the tv issues can be worked out.

I have seen the big east as a collection of teams that will be very competitive. This equal competition will help each team grow their programs just like what happened with mwc with tcu, utah and byu.

I know there are some boise state and sandiego state fans that hate byu, but with byu joining the conference it would help all three teams to continue to grow.

The only problem is that most byu fans do not view joining the big east in the same positive manner as I do. I just don't see a pac12 or big12 invite any time soon if ever. Why not join the best of the rest and have a fun, competiitve conference with national exposure and continue to build up our program.

3rd thier tv rights are a necessity, and a few bb games h/h with some of the big east teams would be very helpful.

go cougars go byu

No real hate here. Would love to have the Mormons in the nBE with us. You would be the #1 pick. I really believe that the TV deal like BYU wanted last year has already been taken into consideration and if the new media contact partner agrees to it, I would like to think the Cougs would be onboard NLT 2015 with Navy.

The fact remains that at least one of Cincinnati, Louisville, and UConn is virtually guaranteed to be gone while the other two will be doing everything possible to get out. If the ACC implodes it will get even worse because the Big 12 will likely expand and we all know who they' will be targeting.

There are no available teams that can come in and replace any of those three without a huge dropoff in revenue. The Big East won't get a TV contract anywhere near what most are expecting. The western teams might be better off going back to the MWC and teams like Memphis and UCF are SOL.

If the money is right and the national exposure is right, then BYU may join the nBE. Additionally, if they joined the conference they would shoot to the top of the list for prime expansion targets to leave the Big East . . .

(11-26-2012 10:16 AM)CardFan1 Wrote: [ -> ]Well the very first thing that needs to be done Today is announce Memphis to the East as Rutgers replacement when Rutgers leaves. If UL, UC are still here We want them in our division. ECU should get the other slot in the East. No Villanova, UMass FB. BYU, Fresno, USM should be added to West. This is only a start.

Great post and exactly my thinking. Hope it works out. Memphis and Temple would be better off in the easy with Cincy/Louisville/ECU. And this talk about UMASS over ECU is ridiculous. UMass is ranked #123 of 124 FBS FB teams while ECU is #68. The fan base for UMASS puts 9,622 into their stadium while ECU packs their stadium with an average of 50,012. The #7 media market for UMass compared to a respectable #37 for ECU does little for the BE if no one is watching. UMass for BB only plus an A10 or two would be great.

Add ECU in the East, and BYU and Fresno State in the West. Good, strong FB members who can lift the conference beyond these immediate losses.

(11-26-2012 10:17 AM)Road Apple Wrote: [ -> ]No real hate here. Would love to have the Mormons in the nBE with us.

FYI: Just like how not all Notre Dame fans are Catholic...not all BYU fans are Mormons.

Wonder if the nBe is rethinking BYU's previous demand to retain its TV rights.

(11-26-2012 10:16 AM)CardFan1 Wrote: [ -> ]Well the very first thing that needs to be done Today is announce Memphis to the East as Rutgers replacement when Rutgers leaves. If UL, UC are still here We want them in our division. ECU should get the other slot in the East. No Villanova, UMass FB. BYU, Fresno, USM should be added to West. This is only a start.

I disagree. The B1G verified our strategy has been correct all along. We need programs that bring high visibility markets. ECU and USM don't fit the model.

At this point, we DO need to look long and hard at the Northeast because that is where we took our biggest hits this last round.

That's just reality.

Especially if its all sports! We don't want to be playing hoops with Purple Barney Pirates or Golden Eagles. Those programs just don't fit MSG.

(11-26-2012 10:24 AM)CardsfaninLexington Wrote: [ -> ]The fact remains that at least one of Cincinnati, Louisville, and UConn is virtually guaranteed to be gone while ALL the other schools will be doing everything possible to get out. If the ACC implodes it will get even worse because the Big 12 will likely expand and we all know who they' will be targeting.

There are no available teams that can come in and replace any of those three without a huge dropoff in revenue. The Big East won't get a TV contract anywhere near what most are expecting. The western teams might be better off going back to the MWC and teams like Memphis and UCF are SOL.

FYP. Pull your head out of your ass, every school in the Big East and at least half the ACC has their AD on the phone making calls.

(11-26-2012 10:34 AM)KnightLight Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2012 10:17 AM)Road Apple Wrote: [ -> ]No real hate here. Would love to have the Mormons in the nBE with us.

Note: Just like how not all Notre Dame fans are Catholic...not all BYU fans are Mormons.

I know, its a teasing figure of speech. I live out here with them, remember, and go to some of their games.

(11-26-2012 10:41 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2012 10:24 AM)CardsfaninLexington Wrote: [ -> ]The fact remains that at least one of Cincinnati, Louisville, and UConn is virtually guaranteed to be gone while ALL the other schools will be doing everything possible to get out. If the ACC implodes it will get even worse because the Big 12 will likely expand and we all know who they' will be targeting.

There are no available teams that can come in and replace any of those three without a huge dropoff in revenue. The Big East won't get a TV contract anywhere near what most are expecting. The western teams might be better off going back to the MWC and teams like Memphis and UCF are SOL.

FYP. Pull your head out of your ass, every school in the Big East and at least half the ACC has their AD on the phone making calls.

No team is irreplaceable, my friend. I would think BYU, should they come, would pull in any revenue drop off that UConn would take away. UConn with the #30 media market is not exactly a must-see program west of the Mississippi. And Fresno State is a huge draw out here, and brings in the entire northern California TV sets as well as great recruiting grounds.

Even the San Jose State Spartans would add the #6 Media market in the nation if needed, and are ranked #25 in the BCS standings. And those two stats alone rate them higher than any of the three schools that want to leave.

(11-26-2012 10:39 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2012 10:16 AM)CardFan1 Wrote: [ -> ]Well the very first thing that needs to be done Today is announce Memphis to the East as Rutgers replacement when Rutgers leaves. If UL, UC are still here We want them in our division. ECU should get the other slot in the East. No Villanova, UMass FB. BYU, Fresno, USM should be added to West. This is only a start.

I disagree. The B1G verified our strategy has been correct all along. We need programs that bring high visibility markets. ECU and USM don't fit the model.

At this point, we DO need to look long and hard at the Northeast because that is where we took our biggest hits this last round.

That's just reality.

Especially if its all sports! We don't want to be playing hoops with Purple Barney Pirates or Golden Eagles. Those programs just don't fit MSG.

The problem is there is no all-sports team to add. UMass? Buffalo? Theres not much to choose from. We may have to augment basketball with A-10 teams or divide into divisions and utilize the all-sports picks on some teams that augment basketball in the west. SDSU, UNLV, New Mexico, and BYU would add some punch.

(11-26-2012 10:45 AM)Road Apple Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2012 10:41 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2012 10:24 AM)CardsfaninLexington Wrote: [ -> ]The fact remains that at least one of Cincinnati, Louisville, and UConn is virtually guaranteed to be gone while ALL the other schools will be doing everything possible to get out. If the ACC implodes it will get even worse because the Big 12 will likely expand and we all know who they' will be targeting.

There are no available teams that can come in and replace any of those three without a huge dropoff in revenue. The Big East won't get a TV contract anywhere near what most are expecting. The western teams might be better off going back to the MWC and teams like Memphis and UCF are SOL.

FYP. Pull your head out of your ass, every school in the Big East and at least half the ACC has their AD on the phone making calls.

No team is irreplacable, my friend. I would think BYU, should they come, would pull in any revenue drop off that UConn would take away. UConn is not exactly a must-see program west of the Mississippi. And Fresno State is a huge draw out here, and brings in the entire northern California TV sets as well as great recruiting grounds. Even SJSU Spartans would add the #6 Media market in the nation if needed.

Not denying that at all or putting down any programs in either conference, if their ADs aren't exploring options right now then they need to be fired. The best option for most of the BE schools might very well be the BE (for the record, I'm fine with the BE, lots of potential), it just gets a little old listening to some UL fans keep reminding us that Louisville is exploring. It's one of those, "No **** Sherlock," statements.

(11-26-2012 10:24 AM)CardsfaninLexington Wrote: [ -> ]The fact remains that at least one of Cincinnati, Louisville, and UConn is virtually guaranteed to be gone while the other two will be doing everything possible to get out. If the ACC implodes it will get even worse because the Big 12 will likely expand and we all know who they' will be targeting.

There are no available teams that can come in and replace any of those three without a huge dropoff in revenue. The Big East won't get a TV contract anywhere near what most are expecting. The western teams might be better off going back to the MWC and teams like Memphis and UCF are SOL.

UCF and Memphis currently make a little over a million dollars a year with thier current CUSA media contract. They are looking a big raise no matter what happens. Boise and SDSU make 800K a year in thier media package. Due to extra teams, if Boise and SDSU returned to the MW, the MW media contract would pay about $600K per team next year (the network refuses to renegotiate). These teams have had very little to work with and have still managed to accomplish some amazing things. Regardless of what happens, they will all see healthy raises and increased BCS access. Thanks for your concern, the rest of will be fine....just not as fine as we were hoping for. Everything is relative.

(11-26-2012 10:41 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2012 10:24 AM)CardsfaninLexington Wrote: [ -> ]The fact remains that at least one of Cincinnati, Louisville, and UConn is virtually guaranteed to be gone while ALL the other schools will be doing everything possible to get out. If the ACC implodes it will get even worse because the Big 12 will likely expand and we all know who they' will be targeting.

There are no available teams that can come in and replace any of those three without a huge dropoff in revenue. The Big East won't get a TV contract anywhere near what most are expecting. The western teams might be better off going back to the MWC and teams like Memphis and UCF are SOL.

FYP. Pull your head out of your ass, every school in the Big East and at least half the ACC has their AD on the phone making calls.

And exactly which major conference is beating down the door going after Memphis? Louisville has made it well known that they're gone as soon as we have an offer in hand. And I was pointing those three out specifically because their departures would affect the Big East the most.

(11-26-2012 11:01 AM)CardsfaninLexington Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2012 10:41 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2012 10:24 AM)CardsfaninLexington Wrote: [ -> ]The fact remains that at least one of Cincinnati, Louisville, and UConn is virtually guaranteed to be gone while ALL the other schools will be doing everything possible to get out. If the ACC implodes it will get even worse because the Big 12 will likely expand and we all know who they' will be targeting.

There are no available teams that can come in and replace any of those three without a huge dropoff in revenue. The Big East won't get a TV contract anywhere near what most are expecting. The western teams might be better off going back to the MWC and teams like Memphis and UCF are SOL.

FYP. Pull your head out of your ass, every school in the Big East and at least half the ACC has their AD on the phone making calls.

And exactly which major conference is beating down the door going after Memphis? Louisville has made it well known that they're gone as soon as we have an offer in hand. And I was pointing those three out specifically because their departures would affect the Big East the most.

You will all be replaced. Its not the end of the world. We were the #6 league when you left, we will still be the #6 league. It wont make as much as we were hoping, but it will still do quite well compared to what we are coming from.

(11-26-2012 11:05 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2012 11:01 AM)CardsfaninLexington Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2012 10:41 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2012 10:24 AM)CardsfaninLexington Wrote: [ -> ]The fact remains that at least one of Cincinnati, Louisville, and UConn is virtually guaranteed to be gone while ALL the other schools will be doing everything possible to get out. If the ACC implodes it will get even worse because the Big 12 will likely expand and we all know who they' will be targeting.

There are no available teams that can come in and replace any of those three without a huge dropoff in revenue. The Big East won't get a TV contract anywhere near what most are expecting. The western teams might be better off going back to the MWC and teams like Memphis and UCF are SOL.

FYP. Pull your head out of your ass, every school in the Big East and at least half the ACC has their AD on the phone making calls.

And exactly which major conference is beating down the door going after Memphis? Louisville has made it well known that they're gone as soon as we have an offer in hand. And I was pointing those three out specifically because their departures would affect the Big East the most.

You will all be replaced. Its not the end of the world. We were the #6 league when you left, we will still be the #6 league. It wont make as much as we were hoping, but it will still do quite well compared to what we are coming from.

The reality is that the Big East lacks the big time school of an Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, Oklahoma etc. This hurts them in prestige and money BUT it also means that it can absorb loses and not be destroyed.
If Louisville leaves they will be missed but they will NOT destroy or cripple the league. They are not able to carry a league like those teams I mentioned.

(11-26-2012 11:01 AM)CardsfaninLexington Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2012 10:41 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2012 10:24 AM)CardsfaninLexington Wrote: [ -> ]The fact remains that at least one of Cincinnati, Louisville, and UConn is virtually guaranteed to be gone while ALL the other schools will be doing everything possible to get out. If the ACC implodes it will get even worse because the Big 12 will likely expand and we all know who they' will be targeting.

There are no available teams that can come in and replace any of those three without a huge dropoff in revenue. The Big East won't get a TV contract anywhere near what most are expecting. The western teams might be better off going back to the MWC and teams like Memphis and UCF are SOL.

FYP. Pull your head out of your ass, every school in the Big East and at least half the ACC has their AD on the phone making calls.

And exactly which major conference is beating down the door going after Memphis? Louisville has made it well known that they're gone as soon as we have an offer in hand. And I was pointing those three out specifically because their departures would affect the Big East the most.

Why does it matter? Why does anything you've said matter? You're Louisville, one of the best "mid-majors," but you aren't God's Gift either. You've managed to stay one step ahead of Memphis, sure, but you're still ten steps behind the majors. Beating your chest for being "better" than Memphis is fine and all, doesn't stop Kentucky fans and their ****** program from telling you guys you suck daily does it?