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looks like the ACC and BigEast are going to be going fishing for another member. Could it be East Carolina leaving CUSA

Likely. Then CUSA will contact WKU or MTSU.

My JMU friend is excited, he called to tell me JMU was leaving CAA once ECU leaves CUSA. lol

Also Rutgers is leaving Big East

(11-19-2012 12:00 PM)AimHigh Wrote: [ -> ]My JMU friend is excited, he called to tell me JMU was leaving CAA once ECU leaves CUSA. lol

JMU would be a nice addition, but I highly doubt CUSA takes any more FCS teams.

At the end of the day, I actually hope ODU does not even try to touch the New Big East if we were to be considered. It is a dumpster fire ready to explode. They play at the same level as CUSA now, and may end up with a slightly better TV deal (but with the new possible defections it may very well be the same as CUSA).

But at the end of the day, all ODU has to do is continue selling out games, winning, and growing our fan base. Something our administration has been doing an excellent job to support.

(11-19-2012 12:10 PM)monarchman Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2012 12:00 PM)AimHigh Wrote: [ -> ]My JMU friend is excited, he called to tell me JMU was leaving CAA once ECU leaves CUSA. lol

JMU would be a nice addition, but I highly doubt CUSA takes any more FCS teams.

At the end of the day, I actually hope ODU does not even try to touch the New Big East if we were to be considered. It is a dumpster fire ready to explode. They play at the same level as CUSA now, and may end up with a slightly better TV deal (but with the new possible defections it may very well be the same as CUSA).

But at the end of the day, all ODU has to do is continue selling out games, winning, and growing our fan base. Something our administration has been doing an excellent job to support.

I kind of disagree. By the time it is done, the Big East is going to become the old CUSA with Memphis, Louisville, Cincy, Charlotte, ECU, SMU, UCF, USF, USM, UAB... plus basketball only schools like Villanova, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Georgetown, and Providence.

It isn't a BCS league on the football side by any means, but it is still a minimum 3 bid basketball conference and football much better than whatever combination of leftovers plus Sunbelt mix CUSA ends up with.

There are two scenerios in which I could see ODU in a stronger position than we were a year ago. First is if the Big East dissolves football and CUSA gets some of the old guard back. For this to happen, the Big 12 and PAC 12 will have to raid the Big East of the new Western additions such as TCU and Boise State plus the ACC taking UConn. Second is if ODU could somehow get on the upgrade train. Not saying we shouldn't have made the move, particularly with VCU moving up and George Mason with one foot out the door, the CAA is not the future, but frankly I'd rather be in the old CAA than left behind with the CUSA and Sunbelt dregs from across the country. I thought we'd be set for awhile, but with this recent realignment news, we cannot be caught sleeping. The appropriate response would be a new 50,000 seat football stadium that can be expanded. Doubtful a conference stacked with the old guard CUSA will bring us along if we are playing at Foreman field with a few more sets of bleachers and band aids.

(11-19-2012 12:00 PM)AimHigh Wrote: [ -> ]My JMU friend is excited, he called to tell me JMU was leaving CAA once ECU leaves CUSA. lol

I would love for JMU to join us in CUSA.

(11-19-2012 12:28 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]I kind of disagree. By the time it is done, the Big East is going to become the old CUSA with Memphis, Louisville, Cincy, Charlotte, ECU, SMU, UCF, USF, USM, UAB... plus basketball only schools like Villanova, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Georgetown, and Providence.

I agree that's possible, but I don't think it will happen because of football.

The Big East getting out of the football business entirely makes the most since in the long run. I don't see Louisville remaining in that group, and possibly even more, considering how desperate the ACC becomes, but it should be said that --- Any school worth any money for a Big 5 conference will be GONE. The Big East is the WAC 2.0 IMO. If the Big East's money isn't right, and with it being anything but regional, there isn't much motivation to leave to such an unstable group. Remember that the goal is to get to the playoffs. It can be done in any of the leagues, with the right OOC schedule, and going undefeated. I'm thinking the Big East will lose a tremendous amount of appeal when all of the dominoes fall.

But at this point, all we can do is win, and support ODU. And hope our administration makes all of the best judgements to make sure we're always competing at the highest levels.

It is all about market. (read, money)

As ESPN's Chris Fowler said about the SEC :

Quote:The SEC did not expand in order to enhance it's football product, but instead to increase it's television footprint.

This is why the SEC will not be interested in VT, nor will the Big 10 or Big 12.
This is why ECU has been continually snubbed despite an excellent commitment to athletics.
This is why UNCC was chosen over a much more "FBS ready" Appalachian St.

Ironically, the least FBS ready CUSA adds, UNCC and ODU, will be among the most desirable CUSA teams in the ongoing conference alignment nightmare.

We (UNCC and ODU) will have options down the road; possibly sooner than later.

(11-19-2012 01:12 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote: [ -> ]It is all about market. (read, money)

As ESPN's Chris Fowler said about the SEC :

Quote:The SEC did not expand in order to enhance it's football product, but instead to increase it's television footprint.

This is why the SEC will not be interested in VT, nor will the Big 10 or Big 12.
This is why ECU has been continually snubbed despite an excellent commitment to athletics.
This is why UNCC was chosen over a much more "FBS ready" Appalachian St.

Ironically, the least FBS ready CUSA adds, UNCC and ODU, will be among the most desirable CUSA teams in the ongoing conference alignment nightmare.

We (UNCC and ODU) will have options down the road; possibly sooner than later.

I don't know if I agree with the assertion that the Big Ten and SEC will never be interested in VT because of their TV footprint. VT brings with it the entire state of Virginia to include Northern Virginia and DC to television. Neither conference has Virginia in its TV footprint, though the Big Ten now has DC with the Maryland addition. Virginia or Virginia Tech (one but not both) would be very attractive for expansion. Both schools are a lot like Penn State in that they exist in remote area but carry the entire state.

(11-19-2012 01:18 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2012 01:12 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote: [ -> ]It is all about market. (read, money)

As ESPN's Chris Fowler said about the SEC :

Quote:The SEC did not expand in order to enhance it's football product, but instead to increase it's television footprint.

This is why the SEC will not be interested in VT, nor will the Big 10 or Big 12.
This is why ECU has been continually snubbed despite an excellent commitment to athletics.
This is why UNCC was chosen over a much more "FBS ready" Appalachian St.

Ironically, the least FBS ready CUSA adds, UNCC and ODU, will be among the most desirable CUSA teams in the ongoing conference alignment nightmare.

We (UNCC and ODU) will have options down the road; possibly sooner than later.

I don't know if I agree with the assertion that the Big Ten and SEC will never be interested in VT because of their TV footprint. VT brings with it the entire state of Virginia to include Northern Virginia and DC to television. Neither conference has Virginia in its TV footprint, though the Big Ten now has DC with the Maryland addition. Virginia or Virginia Tech (one but not both) would be very attractive for expansion. Both schools are a lot like Penn State in that they exist in remote area but carry the entire state.

(11-19-2012 01:18 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-19-2012 01:12 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote: [ -> ]It is all about market. (read, money)

As ESPN's Chris Fowler said about the SEC :

Quote:The SEC did not expand in order to enhance it's football product, but instead to increase it's television footprint.

This is why the SEC will not be interested in VT, nor will the Big 10 or Big 12.
This is why ECU has been continually snubbed despite an excellent commitment to athletics.
This is why UNCC was chosen over a much more "FBS ready" Appalachian St.

Ironically, the least FBS ready CUSA adds, UNCC and ODU, will be among the most desirable CUSA teams in the ongoing conference alignment nightmare.

We (UNCC and ODU) will have options down the road; possibly sooner than later.

I don't know if I agree with the assertion that the Big Ten and SEC will never be interested in VT because of their TV footprint. VT brings with it the entire state of Virginia to include Northern Virginia and DC to television. Neither conference has Virginia in its TV footprint, though the Big Ten now has DC with the Maryland addition. Virginia or Virginia Tech (one but not both) would be very attractive for expansion. Both schools are a lot like Penn State in that they exist in remote area but carry the entire state.

Yeah, you are right.
I did a quick ratings check on bowl games, and indeed VT is a big media draw.

I just left Dick's Sporting Goods and they had at least two racks of VT gear on clearance! There's lots of room on the VT bandwagon these days... Monarch Nation is slowing take over :)

Looking like Big East will lose a couple ... Rutgers to B1G and another to ACC to replace Maryland. Unbelievably, South Florida could somehow end up in the ACC. They were our conference mates 2 decades ago.

Pat Forde: Maryland, Rutgers cash in on their incompetence with move to Big Ten

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaab--mary...ylu=X3oDMT

Good column.

Quote:There is a provision in the Houston contract with the Big East that allows it to leave the league without penalty if certain TV revenue numbers aren't achieved, two sources have told CBSSports.com.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...ut-penalty

https://twitter.com/murphsturph

Jeremy Fowler ‏@JFowlerCBS
ACC in talks with UConn, Louisville, South Florida and Cincinnati about 14th team to replace Maryland, source told @CBSSports.
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I hope ECU can get into the Big East finally, but I'm also not stupid enough to believe it's a massive step up anymore. Whether we are here or not ODU has an extremely bright future. I really would like ODU and ECU long term to be in a league together, but I'd prefer it not be C-USA with some of the teams at the bottom who will never draw fans and never have hope of changing that. I'd much rather we get invited to the Big East and then in the very near future you guys get invited as well, or the Big East just fall apart and a new best of league form.

Maryland has already been replaced by Notre Dame in all sports. Yeah I know ND isn't in for football yet but they will.

For Maryland, kind of a no brainer. Their fanbase is pretty transactional, and they get little support when they are as poor of a program as in recent years.

However, lose UMD, is Boston College with no real rivals, far behind?

I agree with ER on this point......ODU better have a stadium plan ready to execute if we are to remain relevant after the dust settles.