(02-23-2019 06:05 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ] (02-23-2019 03:59 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote: [ -> ] (02-23-2019 03:20 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ] (02-23-2019 03:16 PM)monarx Wrote: [ -> ][quote='Mr.BigBlue' pid='15925825' dateline='1550952844']
Same here ....2 good kids both got accepted into ODU Engineering with scholarships (6K/year) and chose VT with no acceptance into Engineering (they have to apply) and no scholarship.
Wow. Did they say what caused them to make that decision? I often hear of the "safety issue" perception, or just "wanting to go away". But that doesn't hold water when a kid chooses CNU.
Better college campus, better engineering school, and better student pride/atmosphere.
Our Engineering Program was started by VT, their faculty used to teach at ODU. Pisses me off when people say one program is better than another. At the undergraduate level its all the same.
WRONG ! They have a top ranked program and have so many more opportunities for their students. While ours is a decent engineering program it is NOT the same as VT. They also have a much broader and more extensive program.
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College Rankings are crap. The whole methodology is BS...and I meant is what they learn at the undergrad level is exactly the same. Whether they go to ODU or VT.
Dean Adam's came from VT and our program is definitely in the rise.
VT engineering program is absolutely better than ODU's... not sure how one could argue otherwise. That obviously doesn't mean all VT engineers are better than ODU engineers.. some of the best engineers at my workplace are ODU grads. Our division leader is an ODU grad. However, to say our programs are equal would be inaccurate.
(02-24-2019 11:22 AM)odu09 Wrote: [ -> ]VT engineering program is absolutely better than ODU's... not sure how one could argue otherwise. That obviously doesn't mean all VT engineers are better than ODU engineers.. some of the best engineers at my workplace are ODU grads. Our division leader is an ODU grad. However, to say our programs are equal would be inaccurate.
I’d be curious why you say that. What makes the education there superior?
(02-24-2019 03:08 PM)monarx Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2019 11:22 AM)odu09 Wrote: [ -> ]VT engineering program is absolutely better than ODU's... not sure how one could argue otherwise. That obviously doesn't mean all VT engineers are better than ODU engineers.. some of the best engineers at my workplace are ODU grads. Our division leader is an ODU grad. However, to say our programs are equal would be inaccurate.
I’d be curious why you say that. What makes the education there superior?
Far Better facilities, Far better professors that bring massive amounts of engineering research $, their professors are much more widely regarded in their fields than ours, undergrads are involved in a multitude of hands on projects, much better multidisciplinary research and career fields of studies, plus they have a far better reputation from graduate hiring perspective.
(02-24-2019 03:17 PM)smudge12 Wrote: [ -> ]VT engineering opens more doors when you're looking for that first job, which can certainly affect the trajectory of your career.
That said, it really depends on the person once you're actually working. I've met plenty of engineers from "lower" schools outperform grads from bigger name programs. Specific to me, but literally the worst engineer I've ever worked with had a Master's from VT. One of the best was from a random university in Colombia.
My experience is the same. Literally the worst engineer I worked with recently was a VT grad. But we also have some very sharp & intelligent ones. About the same rate as the ODU grads.
I think some of the VT grads think that their education is better than ODU and are more vocal about (and more of them) so that lends itself to the perception.
My experience graduating with a BSME from ODU vs VT is... the grading on the curve bit. The students around you determine what the mean (or center) is of the test scores. Though I received a lot of A's in my MEM classes, I always wondered if I'd rank as a B student in VT based on the talent of the students around me and the curve grading.
let's face it, VT has traditionally had higher admissions standards than ODU. Oh well, we'll get there one day.
(02-24-2019 03:16 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2019 03:08 PM)monarx Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2019 11:22 AM)odu09 Wrote: [ -> ]VT engineering program is absolutely better than ODU's... not sure how one could argue otherwise. That obviously doesn't mean all VT engineers are better than ODU engineers.. some of the best engineers at my workplace are ODU grads. Our division leader is an ODU grad. However, to say our programs are equal would be inaccurate.
I’d be curious why you say that. What makes the education there superior?
Far Better facilities, Far better professors that bring massive amounts of engineering research $, their professors are much more widely regarded in their fields than ours, undergrads are involved in a multitude of hands on projects, much better multidisciplinary research and career fields of studies, plus they have a far better reputation from graduate hiring perspective.
And higher standards to being accepted into the engineering program, which in turn makes each student you are competing with in class more qualified. Like others have said, it totally depends on the individual once you graduate. I've done very well with my ODU degree and wouldn't change my path.
Let me tell you what, though...
I am a hiring manager at a west coast company that did $100 billion of revenue last year.
I see VT grads all around.
I love telling them that I'm from ODU to start the interview to see them get nervous for all their pompous, Hokie is greater than thou, behavior.
(02-25-2019 09:49 PM)Petey Hodge Wrote: [ -> ]Let me tell you what, though...
I am a hiring manager at a west coast company that did $100 billion of revenue last year.
I see VT grads all around.
I love telling them that I'm from ODU to start the interview to see them get nervous for all their pompous, Hokie is greater than thou, behavior.
lol! You're the man Petey
(01-30-2019 12:59 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-29-2019 12:11 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-26-2019 01:17 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote: [ -> ]The head cook at No Frill is taking over Chow's former spot with his wife.
Is it going to be a new restaurant or taking over Chow?
It will be a new restaurant.
Talked to the new owners recently. It's gonna be called Dogwood and they plan to offer good food at an affordable price. Should be a good addition to North Colley.
(02-25-2019 08:29 AM)odu09 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2019 03:16 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2019 03:08 PM)monarx Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2019 11:22 AM)odu09 Wrote: [ -> ]VT engineering program is absolutely better than ODU's... not sure how one could argue otherwise. That obviously doesn't mean all VT engineers are better than ODU engineers.. some of the best engineers at my workplace are ODU grads. Our division leader is an ODU grad. However, to say our programs are equal would be inaccurate.
I’d be curious why you say that. What makes the education there superior?
Far Better facilities, Far better professors that bring massive amounts of engineering research $, their professors are much more widely regarded in their fields than ours, undergrads are involved in a multitude of hands on projects, much better multidisciplinary research and career fields of studies, plus they have a far better reputation from graduate hiring perspective.
And higher standards to being accepted into the engineering program, which in turn makes each student you are competing with in class more qualified. Like others have said, it totally depends on the individual once you graduate. I've done very well with my ODU degree and wouldn't change my path.
Admission standards have nothing to do with the quality of the program. I work in college admissions, all it means is that there are a lot of people who apply and the school has the opportunity to be more selective on who they admit. That does not equate to program quality. Quality is based on outcomes and results not on how hard it is to get in. Getting into college is the easy part, staying and graduating is the hard part regardless of where you go.
(02-28-2019 02:23 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2019 08:29 AM)odu09 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2019 03:16 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2019 03:08 PM)monarx Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2019 11:22 AM)odu09 Wrote: [ -> ]VT engineering program is absolutely better than ODU's... not sure how one could argue otherwise. That obviously doesn't mean all VT engineers are better than ODU engineers.. some of the best engineers at my workplace are ODU grads. Our division leader is an ODU grad. However, to say our programs are equal would be inaccurate.
I’d be curious why you say that. What makes the education there superior?
Far Better facilities, Far better professors that bring massive amounts of engineering research $, their professors are much more widely regarded in their fields than ours, undergrads are involved in a multitude of hands on projects, much better multidisciplinary research and career fields of studies, plus they have a far better reputation from graduate hiring perspective.
And higher standards to being accepted into the engineering program, which in turn makes each student you are competing with in class more qualified. Like others have said, it totally depends on the individual once you graduate. I've done very well with my ODU degree and wouldn't change my path.
Admission standards have nothing to do with the quality of the program. I work in college admissions, all it means is that there are a lot of people who apply and the school has the opportunity to be more selective on who they admit. That does not equate to program quality. Quality is based on outcomes and results not on how hard it is to get in. Getting into college is the easy part, staying and graduating is the hard part regardless of where you go.
I mostly agree but that's not the only part of it. The engineering program itself is another hurdle to get into. You are then competing with classmates who all did better in high school compared to the average class at ODU - if you get graded on the curve, you need to do better than your peers. If you can't hang, you fall behind and don't graduate. You're telling me that's not part of the measuring of quality of students that emerge with degrees?
(02-27-2019 03:02 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-30-2019 12:59 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-29-2019 12:11 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-26-2019 01:17 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote: [ -> ]The head cook at No Frill is taking over Chow's former spot with his wife.
Is it going to be a new restaurant or taking over Chow?
It will be a new restaurant.
Talked to the new owners recently. It's gonna be called Dogwood and they plan to offer good food at an affordable price. Should be a good addition to North Colley.
This deal fell apart in lease negotiations. Looks like Chow will remain vacant for a little while longer.
(02-24-2019 09:38 AM)bit_9 Wrote: [ -> ]Dean Adam's came from VT and our program is definitely in the rise.
I will believe that when our professors start bringing in more than $2M in research $ and our facilities improve. Right now almost none of our professors are recognized nationally. Engineering Professors should be bringing in $2 to 5M each. That ain't happening. therefore they are not pushing the state of the art.
(03-19-2019 06:23 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2019 09:38 AM)bit_9 Wrote: [ -> ]Dean Adam's came from VT and our program is definitely in the rise.
I will believe that when our professors start bringing in more than $2M in research $ and our facilities improve. Right now almost none of our professors are recognized nationally. Engineering Professors should be bringing in $2 to 5M each. That ain't happening. therefore they are not pushing the state of the art.
The ODU Engineering program was good enough for my first job upon graduation is leading a team of Engineers and Technicians. Two of which are VT Grads.
The Navy seems to think ODU grads are good enough to design and build their ships. ODU has been sending engineers to ship yards all over for decades.
Premier Sports Stadium lol