Read if you are optimistic:
The only way the MAC even has the slimmest chance for a BCS game is if we (MAC CHAMP) surpass the BIG EAST Champ.
The big 10 champ could be below the MAC champ but they are contracted to the rose bowl so they will go there no matter what. The BIG East doesn't have an auto tie in according to what I have seen....
National championship: BCS1 vs. SEC team(not true but, the SEC will have a team in the NC)
ROSE: PAC vs. Big10
Sugar: SEC vs. At large
Fiesta: big12 vs. At large
Orange: ACC vs. At large
Now the at-larges would go to: big east champ louisville, PAC number 2 Oregon state, Big12 number 2 Oklahoma, and ND.
You can't have more than 2 teams per conference so (AS OF NOW) the SEC will fill their 2. PAC will fill their 2. BIG12 will fill their 2. ACC 1. BIG EAST 1. ND 1. BIG10 1.
The SEC will have 4 teams snubbed within the top 20 ranked ahead of the worst BCS team Nebraska(big 10 presumed champ).
Obviously stuff will change, but the big east champ falling is the only way to get a team in the BCS. Fighting with the ACC 2nd at large will be tough too.
the big ten being contracted to the rose bowl doesnt effect whether or not we can get the automatic game. if the b10 champ is worse than #16, yes they will get the rose bowl, but we get an automatic at large spot somewhere else in the BCS
(10-30-2012 04:17 PM)Time4Church8 Wrote: [ -> ]the big ten being contracted to the rose bowl doesnt effect whether or not we can get the automatic game. if the b10 champ is worse than #16, yes they will get the rose bowl, but we get an automatic at large spot somewhere else in the BCS
How is that possible. Or why is that a rule? How would/should #16MAC team pass 11 Oregon state, 13 oklahoma, or 14 Clemson? I understand passing the 3rd, 4th, and 5th from the SEC but not conference #2's ahead of us...
(10-30-2012 04:30 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2012 04:17 PM)Time4Church8 Wrote: [ -> ]the big ten being contracted to the rose bowl doesnt effect whether or not we can get the automatic game. if the b10 champ is worse than #16, yes they will get the rose bowl, but we get an automatic at large spot somewhere else in the BCS
How is that possible. Or why is that a rule? How would/should #16MAC team pass 11 Oregon state, 13 oklahoma, or 14 Clemson? I understand passing the 3rd, 4th, and 5th from the SEC but not conference #2's ahead of us...
A non-AQ team that finishes in the top 12, or top 16 if ranked ahead of an AQ champion, is guaranteed a BC$ bowl.
(10-30-2012 04:32 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2012 04:30 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2012 04:17 PM)Time4Church8 Wrote: [ -> ]the big ten being contracted to the rose bowl doesnt effect whether or not we can get the automatic game. if the b10 champ is worse than #16, yes they will get the rose bowl, but we get an automatic at large spot somewhere else in the BCS
How is that possible. Or why is that a rule? How would/should #16MAC team pass 11 Oregon state, 13 oklahoma, or 14 Clemson? I understand passing the 3rd, 4th, and 5th from the SEC but not conference #2's ahead of us...
A non-AQ team that finishes in the top 12, or top 16 if ranked ahead of an AQ champion, is guaranteed a BC$ bowl.
So it's confirmed. The MAC HAS NO CHANCE of finishing in the top 12. And we will need BIG East champ to lose. I fail to see if MAC team finishes ahead of the big10 champ and is 16th how or where they will be placed in the BCS...
(10-30-2012 04:14 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ]Read if you are optimistic:
The only way the MAC even has the slimmest chance for a BCS game is if we (MAC CHAMP) surpass the BIG EAST Champ.
The big 10 champ could be below the MAC champ but they are contracted to the rose bowl so they will go there no matter what. The BIG East doesn't have an auto tie in according to what I have seen....
National championship: BCS1 vs. SEC team(not true but, the SEC will have a team in the NC)
ROSE: PAC vs. Big10
Sugar: SEC vs. At large
Fiesta: big12 vs. At large
Orange: ACC vs. At large
Now the at-larges would go to: big east champ louisville, PAC number 2 Oregon state, Big12 number 2 Oklahoma, and ND.
You can't have more than 2 teams per conference so (AS OF NOW) the SEC will fill their 2. PAC will fill their 2. BIG12 will fill their 2. ACC 1. BIG EAST 1. ND 1. BIG10 1.
The SEC will have 4 teams snubbed within the top 20 ranked ahead of the worst BCS team Nebraska(big 10 presumed champ).
Obviously stuff will change, but the big east champ falling is the only way to get a team in the BCS. Fighting with the ACC 2nd at large will be tough too.
Yes the BE champ is guaranteed a BCS game however they do not have a specific game like the other 5 power conferences.
For NIU, Toledo and Kent St all each of us can do is win. The rest is up to the football gods.
(10-30-2012 04:30 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ]How is that possible. Or why is that a rule? How would/should #16MAC team pass 11 Oregon state, 13 oklahoma, or 14 Clemson?
Because they're from the MAC, of course. Who would want to see one of those other schools when they could see a team with MACtion?
(10-30-2012 04:41 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2012 04:32 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2012 04:30 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2012 04:17 PM)Time4Church8 Wrote: [ -> ]the big ten being contracted to the rose bowl doesnt effect whether or not we can get the automatic game. if the b10 champ is worse than #16, yes they will get the rose bowl, but we get an automatic at large spot somewhere else in the BCS
How is that possible. Or why is that a rule? How would/should #16MAC team pass 11 Oregon state, 13 oklahoma, or 14 Clemson? I understand passing the 3rd, 4th, and 5th from the SEC but not conference #2's ahead of us...
A non-AQ team that finishes in the top 12, or top 16 if ranked ahead of an AQ champion, is guaranteed a BC$ bowl.
I fail to see if MAC team finishes ahead of the big10 champ and is 16th how or where they will be placed in the BCS...
Because that is the rules.
http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bcs_s...dures.html
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.
The thread on BCS busting clearly stated that, but no one is too big on facts around here.
Hasn't the PigLeast suffered enough by taking back Temple, and two stunning losses by Cinci and Rutgers to MAC opponents? Your Honor, I withdraw that question.
(10-30-2012 05:16 PM)The Optimist Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2012 04:41 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2012 04:32 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2012 04:30 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2012 04:17 PM)Time4Church8 Wrote: [ -> ]the big ten being contracted to the rose bowl doesnt effect whether or not we can get the automatic game. if the b10 champ is worse than #16, yes they will get the rose bowl, but we get an automatic at large spot somewhere else in the BCS
How is that possible. Or why is that a rule? How would/should #16MAC team pass 11 Oregon state, 13 oklahoma, or 14 Clemson? I understand passing the 3rd, 4th, and 5th from the SEC but not conference #2's ahead of us...
A non-AQ team that finishes in the top 12, or top 16 if ranked ahead of an AQ champion, is guaranteed a BC$ bowl.
I fail to see if MAC team finishes ahead of the big10 champ and is 16th how or where they will be placed in the BCS...
Because that is the rules.
http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bcs_s...dures.html
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.
The thread on BCS busting clearly stated that, but no one is too big on facts around here.
So that means only two BCS conferences would have more than 1 team a BCS bowl. Wow. That could leave out 5 or 6 teams ahead of the MAC team... ouch.
SEC 2 teams.
Big12 2 teams.
Pac12 1 team.
Big 10 1 team.
ACC 1 team.
ND.
MAC 1 team.
Big East 1 team.
So we need cincinnati to beat rutgers, rutgers to beat louisville, and louisville to lose one more game preferably to syracuse. Not to mention boise and la tech to lose as well.
Only one non AQ school can get an auto bid. The MAC champ would need to be in the top 16, be ahead of an AQ champ (probably B1G), and be ahead of all other non-AQ champs (e.g., Boise State).
And that's why a MAC team won't make a BCS Bowl: Because the best team in a non-AQ school isn't from the MAC. It's Boise State.
The Big East champion is guaranteed a BCS Bowl berth. After the contractual agreements, the BCS Bowls pick sequentially until each BCS conference champion has been selected. Other high-ranking BCS schools can be selected before a BCS conference champion but all BCS conference champions must be selected. There is a reason why the Big Ten has received multiple BCS bids in the past even though a representative's on-field performance may have been lackluster. Big Ten schools, particularly Michigan, Penn State, Ohio State and Wisconsin, bring bodies to bowl games.
(10-30-2012 05:44 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: [ -> ]And that's why a MAC team won't make a BCS Bowl: Because the best team in a non-AQ school isn't from the MAC. It's Boise State.
This is true. When Ohio was undefeated, I felt they could jump Boise. I don't think a 1 loss MAC team will jump Boise, even though they might come close if we get 2 1-loss MAC teams in the MACC. Honestly, I think a 1 loss Latech could get in over all the 1 loss MAC teams, although the fact that Ohio/Kent and Toledo/NIU could get another quality win over each other helps. Of course, if anyone else wins it then we're all done.
If the big 10 and big east are jumped by a non AQ, every team in the top 14 could be from the SEC, ACC, PAC, and BIG12... Assuming the non AQ is 15 or 16th, and the BIG East champ has a loss or two.
(10-30-2012 05:57 PM)The Optimist Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2012 05:44 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: [ -> ]And that's why a MAC team won't make a BCS Bowl: Because the best team in a non-AQ school isn't from the MAC. It's Boise State.
This is true. When Ohio was undefeated, I felt they could jump Boise. I don't think a 1 loss MAC team will jump Boise, even though they might come close if we get 2 1-loss MAC teams in the MACC. Honestly, I think a 1 loss Latech could get in over all the 1 loss MAC teams, although the fact that Ohio/Kent and Toledo/NIU could get another quality win over each other helps. Of course, if anyone else wins it then we're all done.
:iagree:
Absolutely no chance of a MAC team making it while Boise only has 1 loss...so, everyone should be hoping for that 1st before the MAC can even be considered...then a team has to actually get in 16th place and as of now, we don't have ANY teams ranked in the top 25 (yes, at least one will be when its all said and done, but as of now Louisana Tech is above all of our teams)!
So, we have to jump 2 teams! And neither is going to happen if both of those teams win decisively with their remaining opponents (at best we might catch L-Tech and it wouldn't matter cuz we wouldn't be at 16 and if we did make it to 16, still wouldn't be ahead of Boise!)
Oh, and be ahead of a BCS champ! So, Louisville has to lose also, cuz if they win out, they will be No. 5-7 in the polls by the end of the season. They're the only ones in the equation who will go up 2-4 notches in each of the remaining weeks with wins...we can assume the ACC champ will be ranked decent...
Rather than those big east scenarios, we can also just root for the winner of the ACC coastal division to pull the upset in the ACC title game
Or just for the Big 10 to continue imploding...
(10-30-2012 05:44 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: [ -> ]And that's why a MAC team won't make a BCS Bowl: Because the best team in a non-AQ school isn't from the MAC. It's Boise State.
Boise State looks pretty down this season. Not convinced they are the "best" non-AQ but they are the highest ranked.
Living off reputation.
But still winning.
So good for them.