Sounds more like sour grapes though. Good to see Rutgers getting things in order!
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[i]How did winless Temple become one of the worst teams in college football?
By JON SOLOMON
Staff Writer
Temple’s 2005 football season has been dubbed “the perfect storm
sour grapes, Does it make sence that B-E kicks them out when Temple started making steady progress. They were man handling RU & CONN at the time. The B-E did not want Temple winning, refs & sch showed that fact. Replacing Temple for Cin will end up being wash. And there comparing you BB program with St John's without Huggins. Wish I was Cin fan, Ironicly I do wish Cin pulls thier wieght, but your too much
templefootballfan Wrote:sour grapes, Does it make sence that B-E kicks them out when Temple started making steady progress. They were man handling RU & CONN at the time. The B-E did not want Temple winning, refs & sch showed that fact. Replacing Temple for Cin will end up being wash. And there comparing you BB program with St John's without Huggins. Wish I was Cin fan, Ironicly I do wish Cin pulls thier wieght, but your too much
You threw yourself out! Look in the mirror, and Temple fans will see why, they were kicked out of the Big East!
templefootballfan Wrote:sour grapes, Does it make sence that B-E kicks them out when Temple started making steady progress. They were man handling RU & CONN at the time. The B-E did not want Temple winning, refs & sch showed that fact. Replacing Temple for Cin will end up being wash. And there comparing you BB program with St John's without Huggins. Wish I was Cin fan, Ironicly I do wish Cin pulls thier wieght, but your too much
Temple you dragged down the BE too much in the mid/late 90s--the bridge was burned. RU and UConn are flagship schools--Temple is not.
The Temple program in the BE was killed by the Temple administration who refused to fund it properly.Alumni by 10000 tickets at $2.00 was not REAL FAN SUPPORT.
I agree Temple did not help themselfes, but they never got a break from the B-E. They did excactly what the B-E wanted. Located in Philly & lost which helped every body else record also helped every body recuriting in NJ & eastern Pa. You also have to remember, Temple would not be this bad if B-E did not kick them out. Mia & VT were playing for NC in mid to late 90,s. I don't see how Temple hurt B-E.
Well, it does really matter now! Temple will not be considered for re-admitance to the BE for many years :wave: :wave: :wave:
templefootballfan Wrote:. Replacing Temple for Cin will end up being wash. And there comparing you BB program with St John's without Huggins. Wish I was Cin fan, Ironicly I do wish Cin pulls thier wieght, but your too much
Blah, blah, blah, stop comparing yourself to us. We're already competing in the Big East, something Temple couldn't do. Our attendance is much better, our facilities are far superior, the football team is winning and has a good coach and is recruiting well. And I don't care who is comparing our program to St. John's. basketball will just be fine. But if you want to continue with your delusions to make yourself feel better by all means continue! :laugh:
By the way we are one of the top 10 basketball programs of all time. We were down before Huggs got here but that was because of poor coaching in the '80s. We were great in the 50s-60s and good in the 70s. As long as we hire a good coach, being in the BE will be a huge help here, history shows we'll remain a great program.
Temple has nobody but themselves to blame for getting kicked out of the Big East. They soaked up $$$$ from their Big East membership and did nothing to improve themselves. They were a national embarrassment the entire time they were in the Big East. You know its bad when you win 4 games and consider it a big turnaround. Come on... The Big East would have LOVED a solid Temple program, but even faced with the need to add 3 programs the BE wouldn't keep Temple, and frankly they made the correct decision.
Temple belongs in the MAC, they may be competitive in that league. I think they would do rather well in CUSA as well. But there was no way they were ever going to be competitive in the Big East.
Quote:They did excactly what the B-E wanted. Located in Philly & lost which helped every body else record also helped every body recuriting in NJ & eastern Pa.
okay, i had to laugh at this one. the thought of a team telling the conference officials "we are an asset to the conference we end the losing streaks and increase the winning streaks of our opponents" cracks me up. i must say temple did that very well. give them credit where credit is due.
i do want to say that i think the world of bobby wallace and i think that ripping him for the comments he made really isn't fair. temple football is like a dog that has been neglected by it's owner. wallace was the ONLY one who was doing his job. the funding sucked. the school administration showed no interest whatsoever. the conference kicked them out. the stadium literally fell apart because the school did nothing to rehab it. of course the guy is p!ssed off. you know what?? he's a good football coach. if you stick him in a place that actually gives a damn, wallace would be a winner. he's won everywhere he's been accept temple, and despite all that's gone wrong there were times that it looked as if he may be able to win there. it's just that every time they had an opportunity to move forward, the university basically stepped backward.
wallace is the last person in the world that should be criticized for making those comments. to a point, he's right.
Quote:Replacing Temple for Cin will end up being wash.
-- UC already brings more then Temple...UC has been on ESPN more this yr then Temple ever has in a single yr......UC is putting millions of dollars into their facilitys and atheltic programs......Literally all the Temple football program did was pocked the BCS check
Quote: The Temple program in the BE was killed by the Temple administration who refused to fund it properly.Alumni by 10000 tickets at $2.00 was not REAL FAN SUPPORT
-- ^^ We have a winner
-- One of the major differences between Temple and Rutgers is RU actually put forth the cash to build an on campus staduim....
Jackson
Temple was told many times over many years by the BE to invest in its football program and it did not.The Temple admin were the killers of Temple football.
templefootballfan Wrote:I agree Temple did not help themselfes, but they never got a break from the B-E. They did excactly what the B-E wanted. Located in Philly & lost which helped every body else record also helped every body recuriting in NJ & eastern Pa. You also have to remember, Temple would not be this bad if B-E did not kick them out. Mia & VT were playing for NC in mid to late 90,s. I don't see how Temple hurt B-E.
I was a student @ Miami when temple was still in the big east. I saw first hand the weakness of that school's football program. Basketball was at least respectable.
But to compare yourselves to cincy? Give me a break. The article talks about how temple was starting to get competitive...getting to 4 wins a couple of times. Cincy is at 4 wins now, after losing nearly every starter they had. Cincy basketball is FAR better, too.
Saying it should have been RU instead is truly sour grapes. Temple was kicked out based on a trend. RU made more efforts to improve sooner than did temple. On top of that, the fan support is in favor of RU as well.
I feel bad for temple fans and their players, though. The administration really didn't give the team a great chance.
I see no reason to bash Temple when they're already down. They're suffering through a terrible season, and I'm unsure if they'll ever recover. Temple may be on their way out of 1a. I have a lot of sympathy for their plight.
Jim
JIM15068 Wrote:I see no reason to bash Temple when they're already down. They're suffering through a terrible season, and I'm unsure if they'll ever recover. Temple may be on their way out of 1a. I have a lot of sympathy for their plight.
Jim
they did it to themselves, though. that is why i don't really have any sympathy.
JIM15068 Wrote:I see no reason to bash Temple when they're already down. They're suffering through a terrible season, and I'm unsure if they'll ever recover. Temple may be on their way out of 1a. I have a lot of sympathy for their plight.
Jim
I have sympathy for them to, but to compare themselves to UC and basically say that UC is no better then a Temple program that was kicked out of the Big East for being inept is ridiculous. As USFPDiddy mentioned, they're saying UC and Temple is a wash. Yet Temple is bragging about getting to 4 wins and UC is already at 4 wins in a rebuilding year. And we have played, statistically, the toughest schedule coming into the season in the Big East. Having played one of the preseason Big East conference favorites Pitt, current 5 win Miami-OH, current #25 Louisville, then 4-1 UConn, and #10 Penn State. And we still have #28 Rutgers and #16 West Virginia on the docket. And a USF team that blasted a Top 10 squad. All of that and getting to 4 wins would be considered a DOWN year for Cincinnati. Meanwhile, against a similar schedule Temple is getting blasted, and has gotten blasted regularly over the years. That's the problem.
WacoBearcat Wrote:UC will pull its weight.
We already are.
bearcatfan Wrote:WacoBearcat Wrote:UC will pull its weight.
We already are.
Exactly. Cincinnati is already offering free publicity for the Big East, offering the Big East "Game of the Week" the the talent rich Ohio recruiting bed. We're also one of the biggest markets in the country and we're offering Big East football and basketball to that market.