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Good stuff, Bill. Thanks for the post. I haven't been able to keep up with any news with history lately...I've fallen behind in just about every aspect of my professional life: I've gotta grade exams, prepare reviews and presentations for classes I am taking, prepare for reviews and presentations for classes I am teaching, prepare an abstract for grant money and other conferences as well as make some reviews for an academic journal I help out with from the University of Toronto....so it's nice to get some updates without having to search for them.

(09-19-2012 06:31 PM)neillis Wrote: [ -> ]Good stuff, Bill. Thanks for the post. I haven't been able to keep up with any news with history lately...I've fallen behind in just about every aspect of my professional life: I've gotta grade exams, prepare reviews and presentations for classes I am taking, prepare for reviews and presentations for classes I am teaching, prepare an abstract for grant money and other conferences as well as make some reviews for an academic journal I help out with from the University of Toronto....so it's nice to get some updates without having to search for them.

Glad to do it when I can Neil. My life's pretty hectic too so I can't really search things out, but I saw this and it was too cool not to post.

That is just spectacular, as he said. I would love to study with that professor. It's evident he is excited by his find.

The colors still seem so bright and the designs of the tile are three-dimensional. What elegance and sophistication! Do you have any idea what kind of building this mosaic was in?

Hopefully its being guarded day and night.

(09-19-2012 07:14 PM)alterego2 Wrote: [ -> ]That is just spectacular, as he said. I would love to study with that professor. It's evident he is excited by his find.

The colors still seem so bright and the designs of the tile are three-dimensional. What elegance and sophistication! Do you have any idea what kind of building this mosaic was in?

I haven't seen anything yet about what kind of structure it was. What I find fascinating are the swastikas.

(09-19-2012 08:28 PM)TigerBill Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-19-2012 07:14 PM)alterego2 Wrote: [ -> ]That is just spectacular, as he said. I would love to study with that professor. It's evident he is excited by his find.

The colors still seem so bright and the designs of the tile are three-dimensional. What elegance and sophistication! Do you have any idea what kind of building this mosaic was in?

I haven't seen anything yet about what kind of structure it was. What I find fascinating are the swastikas.

The swastika symbol has been around for a very long.
Another example of this is the Mosaics Villa Romana La Olmeda in Spain. Another Roman mosaic collection I believe.
Its interesting though.

(09-19-2012 08:28 PM)TigerBill Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-19-2012 07:14 PM)alterego2 Wrote: [ -> ]That is just spectacular, as he said. I would love to study with that professor. It's evident he is excited by his find.

The colors still seem so bright and the designs of the tile are three-dimensional. What elegance and sophistication! Do you have any idea what kind of building this mosaic was in?

I haven't seen anything yet about what kind of structure it was. What I find fascinating are the swastikas.

Youtube link said it was a bathhouse. The depth of the pool like structure beside the mosaic leads me to believe that it was the floor of the frigidarium, which was a large unheated pool that you dipped in after the thermae.

The video mentioned Cilicia, which would be around the same area that the apostle Paul was from (Tarsus). We know that there was a contingent of former Roman soldiers (a lot from Julius' cohorts who later fought for Augustus, such as near Phillippi). There are a few theories that that is how Paul had his Roman citizenship (he was born into it, his father fought and received a citizenship as a reward).

If I were to guess, I would say that this was being built around about the time Paul's parents were deciding to have a baby.

Amazing stuff and thanks for sharing.

(09-19-2012 08:51 PM)neillis Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-19-2012 08:28 PM)TigerBill Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-19-2012 07:14 PM)alterego2 Wrote: [ -> ]That is just spectacular, as he said. I would love to study with that professor. It's evident he is excited by his find.

The colors still seem so bright and the designs of the tile are three-dimensional. What elegance and sophistication! Do you have any idea what kind of building this mosaic was in?

I haven't seen anything yet about what kind of structure it was. What I find fascinating are the swastikas.

Youtube link said it was a bathhouse. The depth of the pool like structure beside the mosaic leads me to believe that it was the floor of the frigidarium, which was a large unheated pool that you dipped in after the thermae.

The video mentioned Cilicia, which would be around the same area that the apostle Paul was from (Tarsus). We know that there was a contingent of former Roman soldiers (a lot from Julius' cohorts who later fought for Augustus, such as near Phillippi). There are a few theories that that is how Paul had his Roman citizenship (he was born into it, his father fought and received a citizenship as a reward).

If I were to guess, I would say that this was being built around about the time Paul's parents were deciding to have a baby.

Makes sense, as does it's use as the frigidarium. And I like the relation to Paul, I hadn't even considered this could be a colony from Caesar/Augustus' retired legions.

(09-19-2012 08:40 PM)U of M/ND fan Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-19-2012 08:28 PM)TigerBill Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-19-2012 07:14 PM)alterego2 Wrote: [ -> ]That is just spectacular, as he said. I would love to study with that professor. It's evident he is excited by his find.

The colors still seem so bright and the designs of the tile are three-dimensional. What elegance and sophistication! Do you have any idea what kind of building this mosaic was in?

I haven't seen anything yet about what kind of structure it was. What I find fascinating are the swastikas.

The swastika symbol has been around for a very long.
Another example of this is the Mosaics Villa Romana La Olmeda in Spain. Another Roman mosaic collection I believe.
Its interesting though.

I would suspect that they came west with the Hellenization of the Persian Empire in the wake of Alexander's conquests, but that's just a guess.

(09-19-2012 06:31 PM)neillis Wrote: [ -> ]Good stuff, Bill. Thanks for the post. I haven't been able to keep up with any news with history lately...I've fallen behind in just about every aspect of my professional life: I've gotta grade exams, prepare reviews and presentations for classes I am taking, prepare for reviews and presentations for classes I am teaching, prepare an abstract for grant money and other conferences as well as make some reviews for an academic journal I help out with from the University of Toronto....so it's nice to get some updates without having to search for them.

Do you have a truck , I need to move some furniture, and since you have time , could you help me. I knew that you would be all over this. The Swastika has been around for centuries, many different variants of them.

Thanks for all the information, Neil. I am so glad Latin was mandatory when I was in high school, not only for the way it has helped me with English and other languages, but the deeper study of Roman history and culture and art.

I saw a somewhat goofy show on the History Channel, I think it was, months ago about the swastika symbol being, among other things, a derivation of a spinning sun, representing an early visit by aliens to seed the earth with human life. Take that for what it's worth, but it was an interesting show because it recounted all the incarnations of that symbol through history.

(09-21-2012 12:07 AM)alterego2 Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for all the information, Neil. I am so glad Latin was mandatory when I was in high school, not only for the way it has helped me with English and other languages, but the deeper study of Roman history and culture and art.

I saw a somewhat goofy show on the History Channel, I think it was, months ago about the swastika symbol being, among other things, a derivation of a spinning sun, representing an early visit by aliens to seed the earth with human life. Take that for what it's worth, but it was an interesting show because it recounted all the incarnations of that symbol through history.

I thought everybody knew that.

"It's a rush!"

Indeed. Thanks for sharing.

If this lady shows up for any restoration, well...
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/80-year...sterpiece/

(09-21-2012 02:17 PM)SayWhat? Wrote: [ -> ]If this lady shows up for any restoration, well...
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/80-year...sterpiece/

She's an impressionist, so what?

(09-21-2012 03:00 PM)TigerBill Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2012 02:17 PM)SayWhat? Wrote: [ -> ]If this lady shows up for any restoration, well...
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/80-year...sterpiece/

She's an impressionist, so what?

And you gleaned this from reading the story?

(09-19-2012 10:25 PM)KRB Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-19-2012 06:31 PM)neillis Wrote: [ -> ]Good stuff, Bill. Thanks for the post. I haven't been able to keep up with any news with history lately...I've fallen behind in just about every aspect of my professional life: I've gotta grade exams, prepare reviews and presentations for classes I am taking, prepare for reviews and presentations for classes I am teaching, prepare an abstract for grant money and other conferences as well as make some reviews for an academic journal I help out with from the University of Toronto....so it's nice to get some updates without having to search for them.

Do you have a truck , I need to move some furniture, and since you have time , could you help me. I knew that you would be all over this. The Swastika has been around for centuries, many different variants of them.

ACTUALLY I am in Memphis for the weekend, but I don't have a truck. Sorry, K.

(09-21-2012 12:07 AM)alterego2 Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for all the information, Neil. I am so glad Latin was mandatory when I was in high school, not only for the way it has helped me with English and other languages, but the deeper study of Roman history and culture and art.

I saw a somewhat goofy show on the History Channel, I think it was, months ago about the swastika symbol being, among other things, a derivation of a spinning sun, representing an early visit by aliens to seed the earth with human life. Take that for what it's worth, but it was an interesting show because it recounted all the incarnations of that symbol through history.

No problem. While I will be moving away from Roman history, I will be able to still answer a few questions.