My wife just called me into the room and, while rewinding the DVR, said "You need to hear this". She was watching the TV show, Glee, and this is what came from the set:
"Ohio is like a turd that Michigan can't pinch off."
Discuss.
Oh, Okie, you and your wife know how to stir the pot! You make it tough on a born and bred SW Ohio boy like myself who comes from Michigan stock. My parents are both Detroiters and as a kid we vacationed in Michigan every summer (gotta love Torch, Glen, Burt, Black, Elk and White Lakes among others), and I ended up working for a Michigan-based Fortune 500 company for over 30 years now!
I heard a radio commercial for Glee, where Ohio was being insulted. Except it's supposed to be set in Ohio, so what gives?
(09-14-2012 05:49 AM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ]I heard a radio commercial for Glee, where Ohio was being insulted. Except it's supposed to be set in Ohio, so what gives?
Yea most Ohioans won't admit all the stupid problems the state possesses.
However I don't think Michigan is a place that is in any position to talk. As bad as Ohio is Michigan is worse right now.
(09-14-2012 06:44 AM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 05:49 AM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ]I heard a radio commercial for Glee, where Ohio was being insulted. Except it's supposed to be set in Ohio, so what gives?
Yea most Ohioans won't admit all the stupid problems the state possesses.
However I don't think Michigan is a place that is in any position to talk. As bad as Ohio is Michigan is worse right now.
Stop confusing Detroit with the rest of the state. We are doing very well here on the west side.
(09-14-2012 06:54 AM)westernwilly Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 06:44 AM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 05:49 AM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ]I heard a radio commercial for Glee, where Ohio was being insulted. Except it's supposed to be set in Ohio, so what gives?
Yea most Ohioans won't admit all the stupid problems the state possesses.
However I don't think Michigan is a place that is in any position to talk. As bad as Ohio is Michigan is worse right now.
Stop confusing Detroit with the rest of the state. We are doing very well here on the west side.
You can say the same thing for Ohio.
So again, what gives w/ the Ohio bashing by Glee writers? It's actually 180 degrees against what they're supposed to be about. They may have jumped the shark.
(09-14-2012 06:59 AM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 06:54 AM)westernwilly Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 06:44 AM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 05:49 AM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ]I heard a radio commercial for Glee, where Ohio was being insulted. Except it's supposed to be set in Ohio, so what gives?
Yea most Ohioans won't admit all the stupid problems the state possesses.
However I don't think Michigan is a place that is in any position to talk. As bad as Ohio is Michigan is worse right now.
Stop confusing Detroit with the rest of the state. We are doing very well here on the west side.
You can say the same thing for Ohio.
So again, what gives w/ the Ohio bashing by Glee writers? It's actually 180 degrees against what they're supposed to be about. They may have jumped the shark.
They writers live in California and have no idea of what they are talking about.
I had some new clients that flew into town last week for their first ever visit to Michigan. They were from southern California and I could not shut them up how beautiful Michigan was and how it is nothing like what they have heard. I am now helping them find a vacation home here.
When people from the west coast think of Michigan, they think of Detroit and factories. When they think of Ohio, they think of flat farms and Cleveland.
Ohio has some of the most beautiful small towns that I have ever seen and southern Ohio is anything but flat! Cincinnati gets a bad rap, but I think that it is one of the best cities that I have been to and beats out any city west of the Mississippi.......okay......barring San Fran. and maybe Seattle.
(09-14-2012 07:14 AM)westernwilly Wrote: [ -> ]When people from the west coast think of Michigan, they think of Detroit and factories. When they think of Ohio, they think of flat farms and Cleveland.
Ohio has some of the most beautiful small towns that I have ever seen and southern Ohio is anything but flat! Cincinnati gets a bad rap, but I think that it is one of the best cities that I have been to and beats out any city west of the Mississippi.......okay......barring San Fran. and maybe Seattle.
I like flat farms, b/c that's where I'm from. But, I've always been a big fan of Cincy. I think it's a good city too.
Again, Glee was supposed to be about the unpopular finding a place and rejecting the snark of the popular. Seems the writers have lost their way.
(09-14-2012 06:54 AM)westernwilly Wrote: [ -> ]Stop confusing Detroit with the rest of the state. We are doing very well here on the west side.
Are your trees extra leafy and your sand extra-sandy? Because that's literally almost all there is in W. Michigan. Trees and sand. And occasionally a field of asparagus.
(09-14-2012 07:20 AM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 06:54 AM)westernwilly Wrote: [ -> ]Stop confusing Detroit with the rest of the state. We are doing very well here on the west side.
Are your trees extra leafy and your sand extra-sandy? Because that's literally almost all there is in W. Michigan. Trees and sand. And occasionally a field of asparagus.
There's also many wineries.
(09-14-2012 07:20 AM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 06:54 AM)westernwilly Wrote: [ -> ]Stop confusing Detroit with the rest of the state. We are doing very well here on the west side.
Are your trees extra leafy and your sand extra-sandy? Because that's literally almost all there is in W. Michigan. Trees and sand. And occasionally a field of asparagus.
YEP!
And the market for leafs and sand has just gone through the roof!
You have never been here, have you?
(09-14-2012 08:06 AM)Okie Chippewa Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 07:20 AM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 06:54 AM)westernwilly Wrote: [ -> ]Stop confusing Detroit with the rest of the state. We are doing very well here on the west side.
Are your trees extra leafy and your sand extra-sandy? Because that's literally almost all there is in W. Michigan. Trees and sand. And occasionally a field of asparagus.
There's also many wineries.
Mich doesn't strike me as grape country.
(09-14-2012 08:33 AM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 08:06 AM)Okie Chippewa Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 07:20 AM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 06:54 AM)westernwilly Wrote: [ -> ]Stop confusing Detroit with the rest of the state. We are doing very well here on the west side.
Are your trees extra leafy and your sand extra-sandy? Because that's literally almost all there is in W. Michigan. Trees and sand. And occasionally a field of asparagus.
There's also many wineries.
Mich doesn't strike me as grape country.
Along the Fruit Belt of Lake Michigan and in the Grand Traverse Bay area.
Michigan is well known for its white wines that have won one many international compititions. As for red wines.........wrong climate and i will say nothing more.
The Grand Traverse Bay wine country (namely Leelanau and Old Mission Peninsulas) have become quite the trendy place to be in the last ten years as the Wall Street crowd has decided that a sign of success is to retire early and buy a winery in Northern Michigan
(09-14-2012 08:33 AM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 08:06 AM)Okie Chippewa Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 07:20 AM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 06:54 AM)westernwilly Wrote: [ -> ]Stop confusing Detroit with the rest of the state. We are doing very well here on the west side.
Are your trees extra leafy and your sand extra-sandy? Because that's literally almost all there is in W. Michigan. Trees and sand. And occasionally a field of asparagus.
There's also many wineries.
Mich doesn't strike me as grape country.
Top 10 Wine States
Shows the top 10 wine producing states.
Michigan is #5 in acreage and as of 2008 had 136 wineries.
Ohio may surprise you as they come in at #9
(09-14-2012 09:00 AM)westernwilly Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 08:33 AM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 08:06 AM)Okie Chippewa Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 07:20 AM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 06:54 AM)westernwilly Wrote: [ -> ]Stop confusing Detroit with the rest of the state. We are doing very well here on the west side.
Are your trees extra leafy and your sand extra-sandy? Because that's literally almost all there is in W. Michigan. Trees and sand. And occasionally a field of asparagus.
There's also many wineries.
Mich doesn't strike me as grape country.
Top 10 Wine States
Shows the top 10 wine producing states.
Michigan is #5 in acreage and as of 2008 had 136 wineries.
Ohio may surprise you as they come in at #9
Winery Map
You guys are right about your observations...hey, Detroit is bad, really bad, and I've seen how it's changed over the years as both my grandparents lived within the Detroit City limits in areas that were beautiful when I was a kid (N. Rosedale Park area), but obvioiusly went downhill over the years. My grandmother lived in her wonderful English Tudor home just off 6th Mile and Outer Drive until 1989. But the rest of Michigan (except perhaps for the flat part of the state where I once lived..Midland) is fantastic. Outside of maybe Minnesota, best inland lakes in the country with rolling hills and even smallish mountains of sorts in the NW part of the state. I love it there in the summer and some of my good friends are fortunate enough to have lake homes on Burt, Torch, Elk and Black Lake among others. When I get an invite there, I am going!
Ohio is the same..I grew in Cincy (duh!), and it's very hilly...you never know if you are driving east, west, etc.....all the roads wind around the hills and valleys. SE Ohio is almost mountainess...it's reallly pretty except unfortunately for the steel mills along the Ohio River. My wife is from SE Ohio (no, she didn't go to OU!) and we go back there often to see her family. I found out later that most visitors to Ohio think it's either as flat as Columbus or yucky because they only saw the I-75 corridor in Cincy past all the Mill Valley plants and such.
Just in Toledo we have the Imagination Station, Toledo Museum of Art, Toledo Mud Hens(AAA Baseball), Toledo Walleye(ECHL Hockey), Oak Openings and 10 other metro parks, Hollywood Casino, 3 decent malls, the Valentine Theatre, Stranahan Theatre, one of the best zoo's in the country.
-We're an hour away from Cedar Point, an hour away from Detroit(if you happen to enjoy Michigan for some reason), an hour away from Put-In-Bay...
We're the 4th or 5th largest city in Ohio, and Cleveland, Cinci, Columbus, and Dayton all have more things to do than Toledo. I like our state. At least we have enough money to clean up/ pave our streets.
(09-14-2012 11:44 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ]Just in Toledo we have the Imagination Station, Toledo Museum of Art, Toledo Mud Hens(AAA Baseball), Toledo Walleye(ECHL Hockey), Oak Openings and 10 other metro parks, Hollywood Casino, 3 decent malls, the Valentine Theatre, Stranahan Theatre, one of the best zoo's in the country.
-We're an hour away from Cedar Point, an hour away from Detroit(if you happen to enjoy Michigan for some reason), an hour away from Put-In-Bay...
We're the 4th or 5th largest city in Ohio, and Cleveland, Cinci, Columbus, and Dayton all have more things to do than Toledo. I like our state. At least we have enough money to clean up/ pave our streets.
I'm sure Ohio is a fine state. No complaints from me. I plan on visiting the indoor water park near Cedar Point sometime over the winter.
The street comment is slightly out of whack. It has nothing to do with money (or toll roads). It has to do with snow and plow trucks
Our roads take an absolute beating during a 3-4 month stretch. There is no way around it.
(09-14-2012 08:06 AM)westernwilly Wrote: [ -> ]YEP!
And the market for leafs and sand has just gone through the roof!
You have never been here, have you?
I spent an entire week travelling up and down western Michigan. I spend what seemed like forever on US 31, before turning to go off-roading through the Manistee national forest. From Muskegon to Ludington to Cadillac and back. Nothing but trees and sand, and a bit of asparagus.
(09-14-2012 11:59 AM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2012 08:06 AM)westernwilly Wrote: [ -> ]YEP!
And the market for leafs and sand has just gone through the roof!
You have never been here, have you?
I spent an entire week travelling up and down western Michigan. I spend what seemed like forever on US 31, before turning to go off-roading through the Manistee national forest. From Muskegon to Ludington to Cadillac and back. Nothing but trees and sand, and a bit of asparagus.
You drove thru a national forest! LOL, what did you expect. Nature is a good thing.
Here's a nice video for ya :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puv-wGYbcPM