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(04-14-2015 10:25 PM)mrbig Wrote: [ -> ]Stumbled across a tweet from a few days ago that Coach Rhoades paid a visit to 6'10" 200 lb Canadian C Kyle Alexander. He is a 2015 guy who is uncommitted, I think just getting healthy from a fractured wrist. Has a 7'4" wingspan ... saw a picture of him touching the rim with his feet still on the ground! Apparently has only been playing basketball for 2 years, soccer was his main sport until 2 years ago and he moves well.

And saw this article saying that Kyle Alexander has a Rice offer and has already taken an official visit to Rice!

Another article with a couple comments from his dad about Rice, saying that Rice is still in the mix.
(04-22-2015 03:02 PM)picrig Wrote: [ -> ]It's hard to believe that in basically a year, we have gone from a team that can't crack the top 300 of the Pomeroy ratings to a team/school that is getting mentioned fairly regularly with P5 schools as a top choice for players/transfers. Also, according to 247 sports, our 2015 class is currently ranked 82nd in the nation (and maybe top 10 of mid-majors? I don't have the energy to count)...I suspect that if things continue, our 2016 class will be higher.

I am happy about it, although I don't find it very hard to believe that the right coach can make a big difference. Let's hope he keeps it up and make you a prophet.
I think we should also give some credit to CDC. He clearly said basketball had to carry its own weight and to that end the renovation of Autry was high on his list and he got it done. While the Braun hire didn't work out I don't think anyone could say that Mike Rhoades would be at Rice right now if we were still playing in Autry.
(04-22-2015 09:29 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote: [ -> ]I think we should also give some credit to CDC. He clearly said basketball had to carry its own weight and to that end the renovation of Autry was high on his list and he got it done. While the Braun hire didn't work out I don't think anyone could say that Mike Rhoades would be at Rice right now if we were still playing in Autry.

Partial credit.

I agree that we likely wouldnt be in this position had Tudor not been built and the emphasis not placed on MBB. That said, I still dislike the Braun hire as (IMO) it was doomed to fail from the start. A guy that was run out of Cal is unlikely to manage to succeed here, and thus, much like Slick Rick, was a ticking time bomb.
(04-23-2015 03:32 PM)Antarius Wrote: [ -> ]I agree that we likely wouldnt be in this position had Tudor not been built and the emphasis not placed on MBB. That said, I still dislike the Braun hire as (IMO) it was doomed to fail from the start. A guy that was run out of Cal is unlikely to manage to succeed here, and thus, much like Slick Rick, was a ticking time bomb.

Braun was not my top choice, but he was not a disaster at either of his previous jobs and does not deserve to be compared to Greenspan.
(04-23-2015 04:35 PM)Gravy Owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2015 03:32 PM)Antarius Wrote: [ -> ]I agree that we likely wouldnt be in this position had Tudor not been built and the emphasis not placed on MBB. That said, I still dislike the Braun hire as (IMO) it was doomed to fail from the start. A guy that was run out of Cal is unlikely to manage to succeed here, and thus, much like Slick Rick, was a ticking time bomb.

Braun was not my top choice, but he was not a disaster at either of his previous jobs and does not deserve to be compared to Greenspan.

The Braun hire was not bad. The Braun extension was.
(04-23-2015 09:39 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2015 04:35 PM)Gravy Owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2015 03:32 PM)Antarius Wrote: [ -> ]I agree that we likely wouldnt be in this position had Tudor not been built and the emphasis not placed on MBB. That said, I still dislike the Braun hire as (IMO) it was doomed to fail from the start. A guy that was run out of Cal is unlikely to manage to succeed here, and thus, much like Slick Rick, was a ticking time bomb.

Braun was not my top choice, but he was not a disaster at either of his previous jobs and does not deserve to be compared to Greenspan.

The Braun hire was not bad. The Braun extension was.

The extension was, hands down, way worse than the hire. It made absolutely no sense, given that he had 3 years on his contract and to our knowledge, he wasnt being poached (like Rhoades was recently). I still wasnt a fan of the original hire either - yes we got a big name coach on the cheap, but he was on the cheap for a reason.

(04-23-2015 04:35 PM)Gravy Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Braun was not my top choice, but he was not a disaster at either of his previous jobs and does not deserve to be compared to Greenspan.

I used his name to illustrate that, IMO, hiring guys on the downside of their career/run out of bigger establishments is unlikely to ever succeed. Not directly comparing Braun to Greenspan, who we all agree, was a total disaster.

What JK is doing is , IMO, a better formula for success at a place like Rice.
(04-24-2015 12:14 PM)Antarius Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2015 09:39 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2015 04:35 PM)Gravy Owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2015 03:32 PM)Antarius Wrote: [ -> ]I agree that we likely wouldnt be in this position had Tudor not been built and the emphasis not placed on MBB. That said, I still dislike the Braun hire as (IMO) it was doomed to fail from the start. A guy that was run out of Cal is unlikely to manage to succeed here, and thus, much like Slick Rick, was a ticking time bomb.

Braun was not my top choice, but he was not a disaster at either of his previous jobs and does not deserve to be compared to Greenspan.

The Braun hire was not bad. The Braun extension was.

The extension was, hands down, way worse than the hire. It made absolutely no sense, given that he had 3 years on his contract and to our knowledge, he wasnt being poached (like Rhoades was recently). I still wasnt a fan of the original hire either - yes we got a big name coach on the cheap, but he was on the cheap for a reason.

(04-23-2015 04:35 PM)Gravy Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Braun was not my top choice, but he was not a disaster at either of his previous jobs and does not deserve to be compared to Greenspan.

I used his name to illustrate that, IMO, hiring guys on the downside of their career/run out of bigger establishments is unlikely to ever succeed. Not directly comparing Braun to Greenspan, who we all agree, was a total disaster.

What JK is doing is , IMO, a better formula for success at a place like Rice.

I believe that one could argue that the Braun hire was somewhat similar to the hiring of Hatfield, in that both had been coaching at a higher level, done relatively well, but not well enough to meet expectations. As discussed previously, towards the end his teams certainly faltered, but he produced several teams, and "signature" wins. I agree, more than one of the extensions has been pointless, as they were not likely to go anywhere. I prefer to bonus people in situations where applicable.
So who was it that hired Greenspan?
It's my understanding that David Leebron hired him.
(04-24-2015 12:36 PM)HawaiiOwl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2015 12:14 PM)Antarius Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2015 09:39 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2015 04:35 PM)Gravy Owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2015 03:32 PM)Antarius Wrote: [ -> ]I agree that we likely wouldnt be in this position had Tudor not been built and the emphasis not placed on MBB. That said, I still dislike the Braun hire as (IMO) it was doomed to fail from the start. A guy that was run out of Cal is unlikely to manage to succeed here, and thus, much like Slick Rick, was a ticking time bomb.

Braun was not my top choice, but he was not a disaster at either of his previous jobs and does not deserve to be compared to Greenspan.

The Braun hire was not bad. The Braun extension was.

The extension was, hands down, way worse than the hire. It made absolutely no sense, given that he had 3 years on his contract and to our knowledge, he wasnt being poached (like Rhoades was recently). I still wasnt a fan of the original hire either - yes we got a big name coach on the cheap, but he was on the cheap for a reason.

(04-23-2015 04:35 PM)Gravy Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Braun was not my top choice, but he was not a disaster at either of his previous jobs and does not deserve to be compared to Greenspan.

I used his name to illustrate that, IMO, hiring guys on the downside of their career/run out of bigger establishments is unlikely to ever succeed. Not directly comparing Braun to Greenspan, who we all agree, was a total disaster.

What JK is doing is , IMO, a better formula for success at a place like Rice.

I believe that one could argue that the Braun hire was somewhat similar to the hiring of Hatfield, in that both had been coaching at a higher level, done relatively well, but not well enough to meet expectations. As discussed previously, towards the end his teams certainly faltered, but he produced several teams, and "signature" wins. I agree, more than one of the extensions has been pointless, as they were not likely to go anywhere. I prefer to bonus people in situations where applicable.

Hat was far and away a better hire. Though the game moved away from him, our teams generally were competitive and just seemed to be almost over the hump. And just about the most honorable man you would ever meet.
(04-25-2015 06:56 AM)texowl2 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2015 12:36 PM)HawaiiOwl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2015 12:14 PM)Antarius Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2015 09:39 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2015 04:35 PM)Gravy Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Braun was not my top choice, but he was not a disaster at either of his previous jobs and does not deserve to be compared to Greenspan.

The Braun hire was not bad. The Braun extension was.

The extension was, hands down, way worse than the hire. It made absolutely no sense, given that he had 3 years on his contract and to our knowledge, he wasnt being poached (like Rhoades was recently). I still wasnt a fan of the original hire either - yes we got a big name coach on the cheap, but he was on the cheap for a reason.

(04-23-2015 04:35 PM)Gravy Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Braun was not my top choice, but he was not a disaster at either of his previous jobs and does not deserve to be compared to Greenspan.

I used his name to illustrate that, IMO, hiring guys on the downside of their career/run out of bigger establishments is unlikely to ever succeed. Not directly comparing Braun to Greenspan, who we all agree, was a total disaster.

What JK is doing is , IMO, a better formula for success at a place like Rice.

I believe that one could argue that the Braun hire was somewhat similar to the hiring of Hatfield, in that both had been coaching at a higher level, done relatively well, but not well enough to meet expectations. As discussed previously, towards the end his teams certainly faltered, but he produced several teams, and "signature" wins. I agree, more than one of the extensions has been pointless, as they were not likely to go anywhere. I prefer to bonus people in situations where applicable.

Hat was far and away a better hire. Though the game moved away from him, our teams generally were competitive and just seemed to be almost over the hump. And just about the most honorable man you would ever meet.

With the demise of the option game in HS football our fortunes faded as well.
The option game has not declined at the HS level everywhere. Where the 7-on-7 competitions have become very popular in summertime, there has been a decided shift to various forms of the spread. But I watched a Georgia big school state championship game a couple of years ago where both teams ran the option.
We are way off target for this thread. Current status of option football has little to do with "Rhoades recruitng".

When I see this thread has a new post I get excited about some 6'10" front court man that he's signed. Only to find us rehashing the Hat's choice in offensive styles.
The option was not the problem under Hat. It worked pretty well against everyone we played, even the big boys.

The problem under Hat was the non-existent defense.
Must we sabotage every single thread on The Parliament? Do tell how debating Hatfield and the option offense has anything even remotely to do with "Rhoades Recruiting"? 03-banghead
Probably not an unreasonable or unexpected sidetrack once the Braun v. Hatfield comments started (of course, those themselves were off the subject of Rhoades recruiting).

I actually expect Rhoades to be like Hatfield in one important way. By running a contrarian system, he can look for different attributes in recruits from what the pack are seeking, and that will allow us to bring in some unique talents who are particularly suited to play effectively in our system. I expect to see a lot of 6-4 to 6-8 athletes who can run and jump.
Tomball Owl
Absolutely. I see a new post and anticipate the new big man signed which might get us over 500 next season. But instead read about Braun, Greenspan, or Hatfield. The divorce is finalized, alimony paid. Let's move on and just talk about commits. You guys are busting my emotions.
Make to the subject. Has anyone heard that Rice is likely to confirm a transfer or receive a 2016 commitment in the near future?
(04-25-2015 05:49 PM)rice1931 Wrote: [ -> ]Make to the subject. Has anyone heard that Rice is likely to confirm a transfer or receive a 2016 commitment in the near future?

03-shhhh
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