I would say put the statue outside of the Ted. Putting it on the Hampton Blvd side would be preferred so people will see it daily while driving. Hell put it on the useless monorail track!
(06-27-2012 07:48 AM)finalcloud Wrote: [ -> ]I would say put the statue outside of the Ted. Putting it on the Hampton Blvd side would be preferred so people will see it daily while driving. Hell put it on the useless monorail track!
Since you don't know the difference between a monorail and maglev, I assume you like pictures:
I know the difference between monorail and maglev. Most people would call it a monorail track just by driving by it. I was thrilled when they were building it. Before the pep band was given a closet at the Ted, it was thought we would use the train to move equipment from the music build to the Ted. When I graduated it was an black eye on campus.
(06-27-2012 09:45 AM)finalcloud Wrote: [ -> ]I know the difference between monorail and maglev. Most people would call it a monorail track just by driving by it. I was thrilled when they were building it. Before the pep band was given a closet at the Ted, it was thought we would use the train to move equipment from the music build to the Ted. When I graduated it was an black eye on campus.
But I do like pictures.
Do they still have funding for maglev research, change it over to a monorail.
(06-27-2012 09:45 AM)finalcloud Wrote: [ -> ]I know the difference between monorail and maglev. Most people would call it a monorail track just by driving by it. I was thrilled when they were building it. Before the pep band was given a closet at the Ted, it was thought we would use the train to move equipment from the music build to the Ted. When I graduated it was an black eye on campus.
But I do like pictures.
Black eye on the campus? The maglev was my compass for how to get to class my freshman year!
"How do I get to BAL?"
"Follow the maglev all the way down and turn right."
(06-27-2012 09:50 AM)Old Dominion Navy Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-27-2012 09:45 AM)finalcloud Wrote: [ -> ]I know the difference between monorail and maglev. Most people would call it a monorail track just by driving by it. I was thrilled when they were building it. Before the pep band was given a closet at the Ted, it was thought we would use the train to move equipment from the music build to the Ted. When I graduated it was an black eye on campus.
But I do like pictures.
Do they still have funding for maglev research, change it over to a monorail.
Bah I can't find the article, but ODU is working with another Maglev company right now. They've 'split' the track in half, ODU will work on one half, and the company the other. I know that there's been work on the Powhatan cause they've changed the tracks and been working with a new car base.
(06-27-2012 09:50 AM)Old Dominion Navy Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-27-2012 09:45 AM)finalcloud Wrote: [ -> ]I know the difference between monorail and maglev. Most people would call it a monorail track just by driving by it. I was thrilled when they were building it. Before the pep band was given a closet at the Ted, it was thought we would use the train to move equipment from the music build to the Ted. When I graduated it was an black eye on campus.
But I do like pictures.
Do they still have funding for maglev research, change it over to a monorail.
Bah I can't find the article, but ODU is working with another Maglev company right now. They've 'split' the track in half, ODU will work on one half, and the company the other. I know that there's been work on the Powhatan cause they've changed the tracks and been working with a new car base.
Is that article from 1997?
I think it is time to put some sheet metal on top of that thing... at least people can walk under it when it's raining!
(06-27-2012 09:50 AM)Old Dominion Navy Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-27-2012 09:45 AM)finalcloud Wrote: [ -> ]I know the difference between monorail and maglev. Most people would call it a monorail track just by driving by it. I was thrilled when they were building it. Before the pep band was given a closet at the Ted, it was thought we would use the train to move equipment from the music build to the Ted. When I graduated it was an black eye on campus.
But I do like pictures.
Do they still have funding for maglev research, change it over to a monorail.
Bah I can't find the article, but ODU is working with another Maglev company right now. They've 'split' the track in half, ODU will work on one half, and the company the other. I know that there's been work on the Powhatan cause they've changed the tracks and been working with a new car base.
Is that article from 1997?
I think it is time to put some sheet metal on top of that thing... at least people can walk under it when it's raining!
I tend to agree. I know a lot of money has been put into that project, but at this point, it's a sunk cost. Is this really a viable project?
Aerospace Engineering is using it as a research tool, you know since we are a research university and all... A $20 million dollar freebie that we can use to possibly become the Institution that made maglev affordable is not useless IMO.
The video below (though 4 years old) shows the thing levitate, so who knows where they're at now... should be close (and viable). Pretty sure the hold-up is dollar bills ya'll. $20 million/mile was the goal 10 years ago. It's just over 1 mile long.
For more information, I suggest contacting
Project Engineer
Dr. Thomas Alberts - talberts@odu.edu
Department Chair
Oktay Baysal - obaysal@odu.edu
Project Manager
Dr. Jeramiah Creedon - jcreedon@odu.edu
(06-27-2012 10:53 AM)OLD DIRTY Wrote: [ -> ]Aerospace Engineering is using it as a research tool, you know since we are a research university and all... A $20 million dollar freebie that we can use to possibly become the Institution that made maglev affordable is not useless IMO.
The video below (though 4 years old) shows the thing levitate, so who knows where they're at now... should be close (and viable). Pretty sure the hold-up is dollar bills ya'll. $20 million/mile was the goal 10 years ago. It's just over 1 mile long. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjNfJJcP0...ure=relmfu
For more information, I suggest contacting
Project Engineer
Dr. Thomas Alberts - talberts@odu.edu
Department Chair
Oktay Baysal - obaysal@odu.edu
Project Manager
Dr. Jeramiah Creedon - jcreedon@odu.edu
Excellent video, despite being 4 years old.
They say in the video that the technology was "brought" to ODU and that originally, ODU just served as a host site for it. Until things went bad. Then ODU professors said, "As an engineering institution, we do have some responsibility for the project."
Quote:"Not a penny of tuition money is going towards that."
Quote:"Understand what the project is. It's a research project."
I remember chatting with some friends in the Eng dept back when all this was going on while I was on campus. One thing I heard was that the company of professionals who were working on it and using us as a host site for testing were having issues. Our dept and students looked at it and came up with a solution to the problem but the professionals wouldn't give accept the answer and said we were wrong, when in fact they were on to something. Shrug, that's a rumor I heard from a ME back then so take it for what you will.
(06-27-2012 10:53 AM)OLD DIRTY Wrote: [ -> ]Aerospace Engineering is using it as a research tool, you know since we are a research university and all... A $20 million dollar freebie that we can use to possibly become the Institution that made maglev affordable is not useless IMO.
The video below (though 4 years old) shows the thing levitate, so who knows where they're at now... should be close (and viable). Pretty sure the hold-up is dollar bills ya'll. $20 million/mile was the goal 10 years ago. It's just over 1 mile long.
Pretty sure I tripped over that assembly in one of my Intro to Engineering Labs.
My MED 2 professor this spring said that the school hit a snare because they were worried about the deflection of the structure or something of that sort. He suggested adding arches underneath to support it but I think the higher ups didn't want that because it would ruin the aesthetics of it.
I remember reading in the Orlando Sentinal that Lockheed-Martin (who built the cars) admitted they screwed up, but it was so low on their priority list that they were just going to eat the cost and not bother to fix the problem.
I feel like mag lev could have it's own thread, but while we're at it...
I always roll my eyes when I hear or see comments that try to claim it as a fail for ODU. I usually see this anytime there's an ODU article in the Va pilot. No matter what the article is about, haters want to bring this up.
I don't think the general public understands that this is research. As stated above, a private company invested their own money, declared some lofty goals and then abandoned the project.
The engineering dept works on it now using whatever private money and grants they can come up with to keep it gong. It hasn't cost ODU any money or our tax dollars, yet people always imply it did and it was ODUs fault it hasn't worked. If it works great... ODU can say they helped foster a transportation game changer. If it doesn't work, who cares? They didn't pay for it. It's a project that landed in their lap and they can tinker with it, use it as an educational tool and it's free of any pressure bc the initial investment cost us nothing.
(06-27-2012 07:01 PM)jmadz_01 Wrote: [ -> ]I feel like mag lev could have it's own thread, but while we're at it...
I always roll my eyes when I hear or see comments that try to claim it as a fail for ODU. I usually see this anytime there's an ODU article in the Va pilot. No matter what the article is about, haters want to bring this up.
I don't think the general public understands that this is research. As stated above, a private company invested their own money, declared some lofty goals and then abandoned the project.
The engineering dept works on it now using whatever private money and grants they can come up with to keep it gong. It hasn't cost ODU any money or our tax dollars, yet people always imply it did and it was ODUs fault it hasn't worked. If it works great... ODU can say they helped foster a transportation game changer. If it doesn't work, who cares? They didn't pay for it. It's a project that landed in their lap and they can tinker with it, use it as an educational tool and it's free of any pressure bc the initial investment cost us nothing.
Pretty sure US tax and VA tax money was part of the project.
random google search
"Half of the $14 million spent on the project so far was a loan from the state’s Commonwealth Transportation Board. The other half was private contributions from partners, including Lockheed Martin Corp. and Dominion Virginia Power.
The $2 million in federal money will be spent in the next year to refine the technology with the goal of creating a “demonstrable engineering prototype.”
Elsewhere.... "The California U. folly brings up a similar project at Old Dominion University, where $14 million in state and private money was invested in a low-speed maglev line. Although work was finished two years ago, it has yet to carry the first rider.
Currently, $200,000 remains of a $2 million federal grant to try again to advance the technology and make the thing do what it's supposed to do. Otherwise, the university plans to junk the project and tear down the elevated guideway."
(06-27-2012 07:44 PM)bigblueodu Wrote: [ -> ]Pretty sure US tax and VA tax money was part of the project.
random google search
"Half of the $14 million spent on the project so far was a loan from the state’s Commonwealth Transportation Board. The other half was private contributions from partners, including Lockheed Martin Corp. and Dominion Virginia Power.
It was R&D money from the Feds to the state used. Otherwise it was lost, from my understanding. Partners were Dominion VA, VDOT, Lockhead, and Am. Maglev.
(06-27-2012 07:44 PM)bigblueodu Wrote: [ -> ]The $2 million in federal money will be spent in the next year to refine the technology with the goal of creating a “demonstrable engineering prototype.”
Accomplished. Deflection of the guideway seems a very likely issue, but the technology works. 10 years ago, communication speed has developed considerably making lead/lag more controllable that could fix some of that issue.
(06-27-2012 07:44 PM)bigblueodu Wrote: [ -> ]Currently, $200,000 remains of a $2 million federal grant to try again to advance the technology and make the thing do what it's supposed to do. Otherwise, the university plans to junk the project and tear down the elevated guideway."
I think you have some regoogled info there. The original car was sold to some crazy dude in NY state for like $200k. Now they are working off the functional bogie, and the guideway was saved from demolition when they built the new Fieldhouse complex.
I thought I remember hearing that it worked on the ground but the problems started when they tried to elevate it. I'm sure it is going to be used against us by fans when they visit,
"hey, what's that thing"
"its their monorail thing that doesn't work"
"ODU is an epic fall"
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