<a href='http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=1821994&partnersite=espn' target='_blank'>OSU/Bobby Knight</a>
Thought this was interesting since he just signed a deal w/ TTech. Maybe his roots are calling him home?
If WV couldn't lure Huggs back, OSU won't get Knight back. TT is a better gig than OSU. Just the talent in Texas alone should keep him in Lubbock for awhile, albeit the state of Texas could outfit 50% of the high major D-1 teams.
peace.
Yes... but coaching OSU offers Bobby the chance to bi_tch slap the school that rejected him every year.... that's priceless compensation for an ego like Knight's.
If he goes, it'll be because OSU is his alma mater. The Big 12 wipes its @ss with the Big Televen in basketball now. ...and it pains me to admit that because after living in Texas for almost 5 years, I hate the Big 12...
Tech is a better gig than OSU and Texas is better for recruiting and hunting (especially with your buddies!).
99Tiger Wrote:If he goes, it'll be because OSU is his alma mater. The Big 12 wipes its @ss with the Big Televen in basketball now. ...and it pains me to admit that because after living in Texas for almost 5 years, I hate the Big 12...
Tech is a better gig than OSU and Texas is better for recruiting and hunting (especially with your buddies!).
Big 12 basketball has been better the past 2 seasons, but if you go back any further than that you'll see the Big 10 right up there with the SEC and ACC for best conference in the nation. Big 10 used to put two teams in the final four every year and the Midwest is a hotbed of talent. Not to mention that tOSU has the best facilities in the nation, the largest athletic budget, and is the only show and town. I think, and most people would agree with me, that tOSU job is head and shoulders above the Texas Tech job. Where the hell is Lubbock, Texas anyway?
Texas Tech was a nobody in college hoops until Knight got there. Kind of like where we were at before Huggs got here. Our distant past is much better then Techs, but we were going no where in a hurry before Huggs came here.
Will tOSU be placed on probation? This is a huge question on whether Knight will comeback anyways.
I don't see it happening yet.
Big 12 basketball has been better the past 2 seasons, but if you go back any further than that you'll see the Big 10 right up there with the SEC and ACC for best conference in the nation. Big 10 used to put two teams in the final four every year and the Midwest is a hotbed of talent. Not to mention that tOSU has the best facilities in the nation, the largest athletic budget, and is the only show and town. I think, and most people would agree with me, that tOSU job is head and shoulders above the Texas Tech job. Where the hell is Lubbock, Texas anyway?[/QUOTE]
BuckeyeStu, I agree with most of your points, but "the B10 used to put 2 teams in the Final 4 every year"?? The NCAA has held 66 tournaments, but the B10 has put 2 teams in the final 4 only 6 times. Of course, for about half of those years only one team was invited per conference. Still, the B10 placing 2 teams in the Final 4 only in 2000, 1999, 1992, 1989, 1980 and 1976 is not exactly "every year"
BuckeyeStu Wrote:Big 12 basketball has been better the past 2 seasons, but if you go back any further than that you'll see the Big 10 right up there with the SEC and ACC for best conference in the nation. Big 10 used to put two teams in the final four every year and the Midwest is a hotbed of talent. Not to mention that tOSU has the best facilities in the nation, the largest athletic budget, and is the only show and town. I think, and most people would agree with me, that tOSU job is head and shoulders above the Texas Tech job. Where the hell is Lubbock, Texas anyway?
The best team in the Big Televen may have finished 5th or 6th in the Big 12 last year. You can throw out history all you want, but the reality is now and the reality is that the OSU basketball job isn't going to make everyone wet themselves with excitement.
With regards to basketball talent...the midwest easily trails Texas.
Why would Knight want to go to OSU? Let's see, I got fired from Indiana...one of the most recognized Big Televen basketball schools...and now I'm going to head over and coach one of the red-headed stepchildren of the Big Televen...that'll show 'em!
The only thing that may push him away from the Red Raiders is his relationship with the president/chancellor (I don't really know or care what they call the position). Apparantly, they're not too chummy.
...if OSU is the only show in town...TT is the only show for 100 miles. Seriously, there ain't squat over there except tumbleweeds and great hunting land. I'm disappointed nobody picked up with the hunting with your buddies reference. Que sera sera.
The Big Televen up with the SEC and ACC? First, I wouldn't mention the SEC with the ACC...in basketball the SEC is Kentucky and a rotating team that does well in a suprisingly weak conference. The Big Televen has fallen on hard times...period...and has lost a good bit of respect. Fall much further and you'll be behind the Pac 10 in basketball respect...and it's all downhill from there. :D
"The best team in the Big Televen may have finished 5th or 6th in the Big 12 last year. You can throw out history all you want, but the reality is now and the reality is that the OSU basketball job isn't going to make everyone wet themselves with excitement."
I think you are exaggerating a bit, but I will agree that the Big 12 has been much better the past 2 years.
"With regards to basketball talent...the midwest easily trails Texas."
You don't follow basketball much do you? The best basketball talent comes from the large urban areas which are mostly located in the Northeast and the Midwest. I will give Texas the nod for football talent, which is really hard for me to do because Ohio is the football hotbed of the north(4th best state for talent overall, behind the giants Texas, California, and Florida).
"Why would Knight want to go to OSU? Let's see, I got fired from Indiana...one of the most recognized Big Televen basketball schools...and now I'm going to head over and coach one of the red-headed stepchildren of the Big Televen...that'll show 'em"
Maybe because it is his alma mater where he won a championship as a player. Not to mention OSU has the best facilities and largest athletic budget in the nation. The job should be an easy place to recruit at and an easy program to turn around (that is if we can avoid too harsh of an NCAA penalty) Oh yeah, and playing in the Big 10 would be the perfect opportunity to punish Indiana for firing him.
"The only thing that may push him away from the Red Raiders is his relationship with the president/chancellor (I don't really know or care what they call the position). Apparantly, they're not too chummy."
Supposidly the man who brought Bob Knight in will have his contract expire after 2005 and the school has not made an attempt to renew it. Im not sure where i read that but if it is true, then Knight could be upset about this.
"...if OSU is the only show in town...TT is the only show for 100 miles. Seriously, there ain't squat over there except tumbleweeds and great hunting land. I'm disappointed nobody picked up with the hunting with your buddies reference. Que sera sera"
Exactly, Lubbock is a little city located in the middle of no where. Columbus and central Ohio is one of the fastest growing urban areas and is a huge media market that is dominated almost entirely by Buckeye sports. There really is no comparison between the two.
"The Big Televen up with the SEC and ACC? First, I wouldn't mention the SEC with the ACC...in basketball the SEC is Kentucky and a rotating team that does well in a suprisingly weak conference. The Big Televen has fallen on hard times...period...and has lost a good bit of respect. Fall much further and you'll be behind the Pac 10 in basketball respect...and it's all downhill from there"
I think it is obvious that you have just started following college basketball sometime within the past 2 years, because if you go back any further than that, you'll see that the SEC, ACC, and Big 10 were by far the best 3 conference in the land. The ACC was great because of their superpowers of Duke and Carolina. While the SEC and Big 10 were great because of the parity and overrall strenght of the conference as well as a few Final Four worthy teams every year. The Big 10's top programs have been killed by so many players leaving for the NBA, but they will recover and so will the conference.
Some additional reading on the O$U plight. Evidently the rabbit hole goes very deep...
<a href='http://www.cleveland.com/osu/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1086860091169780.xml' target='_blank'>Strike one.</a>
<a href='http://www.cleveland.com/osu/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1087475405162330.xml' target='_blank'>Strike two.</a>
Anybody notice how similar this is to the Huggins/WVU saga.
Huggins looked to go back and gets wind of violations/trouble.
In this case it is right out there for people to see. OSU is in trouble.
I guess I could still see Knight going there even with probation. Will Geiger hire him or if so we know he is a huge hypocrite for acting holier than thou regarding Huggins before.
Take the following lines and shove them up the ****** of anyone who complains about UC's graduation rates. At least we don't give a free degree like O$U.
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Salyers realized early on that schoolwork would be a struggle for Savovic because his English was so poor. "I gave him a newspaper article to read about himself and he couldn't read it," she said.
Salyers said Kim Roslovic told her she had been writing papers for Savovic and asked her to do the same. Salyers said, "I was pretty upset by the whole thing . . . thinking what a diploma would mean from Ohio State, that it's hardly worth the paper it's written on."
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My God, Snart.... divorces, 16 year old daughters and sexual intrigue to go along with numerous NCAA violations.
They are going to make an ESPN movie out of this OSU scandal. I can’t wait to sit down with a bag of popcorn and watch as Kim, the booster’s wife who conspired to violate NCAA rules, first begs for sanctuary for the 7’ Slovakian stud, then while in the midst of a passionate embrace and kiss they are discovered by Kim’s husband the OSU booster.
Who needs fiction writers… you couldn’t make this cr_p up if you tried. Ah, Big Ten Championships and Final Four awards stripped… nothing like a look at OSU to make me feel better about our situation.
I seem to have ruffled a few feathers.
Ah, I'm not going to address each comment categorically...I just don't feel like spending the time.
Houston alone could beat just about any entire state when it comes to high school talent. But Texas produces a lot of top notch talent.
Emeka Okafor
John Lucas Jr.
TJ Ford
Rashad Lewis
Daniel Ewing
Kendrick Perkins :bang:
I just looked on Rivals and in the 2004 class, they have 10 of the top 150. In the 2005 class, they have 20 of the top 150.
I would list Florida above Texas in football recruiting. Texas produces more D-1A players, but Florida produces the stars.
I didn't know Huggy graduated from OSU...I'll keep that in mind.
I find it amusing that you think I've only payed attention for the past few years...sorry, while I recognize that the Big Televen was strong in the 1990's, it has gone downhill. Blame players leaving early if you want, but everyone has had to deal with it...some just deal with it better than others. Hell, Memphis (my alma mater) has lost 4 players/recruits to the 1st round of the last 2 NBA drafts. Thankfully, nobody is leaving this year.
Growing up in the south, I never thought of the SEC as a basketball powerhouse...Kentucky and Arkansas in the early to mid 1990's. Kentucky in the late 1990's and typically one other team that rotated. They'll have 1 to two teams beyond Kentucky that have great years, but not consistently.
I remember when the Big Televen was always competing with the ACC to be the best...they weren't, but they could at least try to lay claim to it. Michigan stopped getting paid players...Indiana just seemed to wither (with Knight at the helm)...OSU had some good years when Jim Jackson was there...Michigan State came on strong and won a title, but they've been less than impressive since. But even that's in the past now.
There are quite a few large urban areas in Texas. Houston is close to 5 mil and is the 4th largest city in the country. The DFW area is just as big (and I've seen it listed as bigger if you put the two large cities together). Austin and San Antonio are both over 1 million people (urban area, not city).
I'm sure Mississippi would also lay claim to being a great source of football talent. They produce more NFL players per capita than any other state in the nation. The total numbers are quite as high, because the state's just not as big.
Have fun!
99Tiger Wrote:Houston alone could beat just about any entire state when it comes to high school talent. But Texas produces a lot of top notch talent.
Emeka Okafor
John Lucas Jr.
TJ Ford
Rashad Lewis
Daniel Ewing
Kendrick Perkins :bang:
You forgot Kenyon out of Big D!
