http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local...5077.story
Mayor Daley games the system and ends up with a massively bloated pension.
I'd like Max to explain how this, and this Democrat, is helping the poor and downtrodden.
Related articles show how other Chicago pols bloated up their pensions as well.
Max can't explain it. Daley is a one percenter who made all of his money off the 99%. Chicago deserves what it gets; like california they keep voting for these fucktards.
I see alot of Illinois people relocating to Texas. The shithole that is Illinois is well known.
I never said the pension system helps the poor. I'd be fine with closing pension loopholes like this that allows people like Daley here to jump from city to state to federal levels and pull in pensions from all those levels as if they earned the highest salary of those levels at retirement.
I do think it's important to have a decent pension system so we attract highly qualified individuals to public service.
If you hate our state so much then by all means move to your austerity paradise Wisconsin, with its shrinking economy and job market. I'm sure they'd love to have you.
(05-04-2012 10:08 AM)Max Power Wrote: [ -> ]I never said the pension system helps the poor. I'd be fine with closing pension loopholes like this that allows people like Daley here to jump from city to state to federal levels and pull in pensions from all those levels as if they earned the highest salary of those levels at retirement.
No, you didn't, but this is a system designed and run by Democrats, who you claim champion the poor. This isn't a loophole. This is a specifically designed trick, to benefit the chosen few. It hurts the taxpayer.
Max Power Wrote:I do think it's important to have a decent pension system so we attract highly qualified individuals to public service.
Or, we could let them save on their own and let them make their own choices.
Max Power Wrote:If you hate our state so much then by all means move to your austerity paradise Wisconsin, with its shrinking economy and job market. I'm sure they'd love to have you.
I'd be in line with everyone else, people and businesses, leaving the state too. Wisconsin has an unemployment rate 2% lower than Illinois.
It's a specially designed loophole that should be closed.
I've never said there aren't any corrupt Democrats.
If we let them save their own money, while in the private sector companies contribute to their pension plans, then we'll only draw people to government service for whom it's their only option. Then you'll really be complaining.
Wisconsin is losing jobs faster than any other state.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/laus.nr0.htm
Quote:In March 2012, nonfarm payroll employment increased in 29 states and the
District of Columbia, decreased in 20 states, and was unchanged in
Alabama. The largest over-the-month increase in employment occurred in
New York (+19,100), followed by California (+18,200) and Arizona
(+13,500). The largest over-the-month decrease in employment occurred
in Ohio (-9,500), followed by New Jersey (-8,600) and Wisconsin (-4,500).
Arizona experienced the largest over-the-month percentage increase in
employment (+0.6 percent), followed by the District of Columbia and
Nebraska (+0.5 percent each). Maine experienced the largest over-the-month
percentage decline in employment (-0.5 percent), followed by Wyoming
(-0.3 percent). Over the year, nonfarm employment increased in 45 states
and the District of Columbia, decreased in 4 states, and was unchanged in
Alabama. The largest over-the-year percentage increase occurred in North
Dakota (+6.5 percent). The largest over-the-year percentage decrease in
employment occurred in Wisconsin (-0.9 percent).
Over the year, 27 states and the district experienced statistically
significant increases in employment. The largest increase occurred
in Texas (+245,700), followed by California (+181,000) and New York
(+155,300). Wisconsin was the only state to show a statistically
significant decrease (-23,900). (See table D.)
(05-04-2012 11:15 AM)Max Power Wrote: [ -> ]If we let them save their own money, while in the private sector companies contribute to their pension plans, then we'll only draw people to government service for whom it's their only option. Then you'll really be complaining.
Strawman. Eliminate the pensions and raise their pay by the increment was going in as the employer's pension contribution. Then people can invest and save, at their discretion, on their own.
Not all private employers make 401k contributions either.
I'm in government. I'm for the elimination of government pensions entirely. They are a joke.
Max Power Wrote:Wisconsin is losing jobs faster than any other state.
http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore...&ind=false
Do the comparison between the two states yourself. Wisconsin is head and shoulders above Illinois.
(05-04-2012 11:15 AM)Max Power Wrote: [ -> ]It's a specially designed loophole that should be closed.
I've never said there aren't any corrupt Democrats.
If we let them save their own money, while in the private sector companies contribute to their pension plans, then we'll only draw people to government service for whom it's their only option. Then you'll really be complaining.
Wisconsin is losing jobs faster than any other state.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/laus.nr0.htm
Quote:In March 2012, nonfarm payroll employment increased in 29 states and the
District of Columbia, decreased in 20 states, and was unchanged in
Alabama. The largest over-the-month increase in employment occurred in
New York (+19,100), followed by California (+18,200) and Arizona
(+13,500). The largest over-the-month decrease in employment occurred
in Ohio (-9,500), followed by New Jersey (-8,600) and Wisconsin (-4,500).
Arizona experienced the largest over-the-month percentage increase in
employment (+0.6 percent), followed by the District of Columbia and
Nebraska (+0.5 percent each). Maine experienced the largest over-the-month
percentage decline in employment (-0.5 percent), followed by Wyoming
(-0.3 percent). Over the year, nonfarm employment increased in 45 states
and the District of Columbia, decreased in 4 states, and was unchanged in
Alabama. The largest over-the-year percentage increase occurred in North
Dakota (+6.5 percent). The largest over-the-year percentage decrease in
employment occurred in Wisconsin (-0.9 percent).
Over the year, 27 states and the district experienced statistically
significant increases in employment. The largest increase occurred
in Texas (+245,700), followed by California (+181,000) and New York
(+155,300). Wisconsin was the only state to show a statistically
significant decrease (-23,900). (See table D.)
Wisconsin unemployment rate 6.9%
Illinois unemployment rate 9.1%
Governor Scott Walker’s battle with the unions in Wisconsin (See “Will Wisconsin Rise Again?”), a state that edged into the top 20 this year for this first time, demonstrates that the struggle for a pro-growth agenda can be contentious. As one Badger State business leader remarked, “Finally, Wisconsin is headed in the right direction.”
Those surveyed ranked Illinois 48th. Neighboring Indiana 5th and WI moves up to the 20th spot.
http://chiefexecutive.net/best-worst-sta...iness-2012
Why would a WI CEO pour resources into WI right now if she knows Walker might be recalled?
Is it possible the recall effort is harming private sector business plans due to anxiety over the future?
(05-04-2012 04:21 PM)niucob86 Wrote: [ -> ]Governor Scott Walker’s battle with the unions in Wisconsin (See “Will Wisconsin Rise Again?”), a state that edged into the top 20 this year for this first time, demonstrates that the struggle for a pro-growth agenda can be contentious. As one Badger State business leader remarked, “Finally, Wisconsin is headed in the right direction.”
Those surveyed ranked Illinois 48th. Neighboring Indiana 5th and WI moves up to the 20th spot.
http://chiefexecutive.net/best-worst-sta...iness-2012
Why would a WI CEO pour resources into WI right now if she knows Walker might be recalled?
Is it possible the recall effort is harming private sector business plans due to anxiety over the future?
Absolutely. But, Dems call that a feature, not a bug.
(05-04-2012 04:21 PM)niucob86 Wrote: [ -> ]Governor Scott Walker’s battle with the unions in Wisconsin (See “Will Wisconsin Rise Again?”), a state that edged into the top 20 this year for this first time, demonstrates that the struggle for a pro-growth agenda can be contentious. As one Badger State business leader remarked, “Finally, Wisconsin is headed in the right direction.”
Those surveyed ranked Illinois 48th. Neighboring Indiana 5th and WI moves up to the 20th spot.
http://chiefexecutive.net/best-worst-sta...iness-2012
Why would a WI CEO pour resources into WI right now if she knows Walker might be recalled?
Is it possible the recall effort is harming private sector business plans due to anxiety over the future?
Of course it is, but liberals don't care, they just want their tyranny.
Recovering businesses finding a dearth of skilled workers
Wisconsin State Journal
April 2012
"The fact that we have around 7 percent unemployment in the state and yet we have hundreds of open manufacturing jobs where (employers) can't find people with the right skills — it's that mismatch that's pretty frustrating to manufacturers and anybody who is really focusing in on how do we create more jobs in Wisconsin," Brinkman said.
http://host.madison.com/wsj/business/rec...08e6f.html