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I was gonna add it to the Rob Wms thread but its been derailed, so...

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/...ate_t.html
As I read the article, UAB has 2 open slots which I would suppose are "reserved" for "bigs" who may become available through transfer under circumstances that may enable at least one to play immediately.
Just guessing, but I suspect our signing of guards has ended for the upcoming season.
I hate to ask the obvious, but did anyone speak with the Corpus Christi coach (who seems to be Rice's former coach, Willis Wilson) and make sure he was going to approve the transfer.

Fool me once......
I'm thinking that Brian Mackin will have already explored that.
Okay I thought signing JC players, 5th year transfers with only 1 year to play and another guard was something that upset you guys. I thought you guys said we needed to build our team from the ground up and we didnt need quick fixes.
We have two players taller then 6'7 so what do we sign, another guard, and then someone mentioned fastest forty,come on guys.
Now I believed Haase when he said he would not fill the spots just to say he filled the spots, but... he now has to sign a big who can play now.

I thought you guys didnt want to see this type of team, yea right, I saw your posts applauding, saying how good the signing of a guard, JC players and a 5th year transfer is going to be, feels like old times in recruiting, seems like XCMD might be the recruiting coordinator.

I am supportive of the win now recruiting attitude of Haase. Its the same attitude our previous staff had but could not pull it off when it counted.
We will need this kid to play big minutes for us and I believe he will fit in well with our returning, 2's and 3's.

But guys go back and read some of your posts about this type of recruiting, NOT THAT THERES ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS TYPE OF RECRUITING,its just that some here said and you know who you are, that this isnt the way to build a team.
oh-ay oy-bay or something like that.
(04-28-2012 10:25 PM)rebounder2u Wrote: [ -> ]Okay I thought signing JC players, 5th year transfers with only 1 year to play and another guard was something that upset you guys. I thought you guys said we needed to build our team from the ground up and we didnt need quick fixes.
We have two players taller then 6'7 so what do we sign, another guard, and then someone mentioned fastest forty,come on guys.
Now I believed Haase when he said he would not fill the spots just to say he filled the spots, but... he now has to sign a big who can play now.

I thought you guys didnt want to see this type of team, yea right, I saw your posts applauding, saying how good the signing of a guard, JC players and a 5th year transfer is going to be, feels like old times in recruiting, seems like XCMD might be the recruiting coordinator.

I am supportive of the win now recruiting attitude of Haase. Its the same attitude our previous staff had but could not pull it off when it counted.
We will need this kid to play big minutes for us and I believe he will fit in well with our returning, 2's and 3's.

But guys go back and read some of your posts about this type of recruiting, NOT THAT THERES ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS TYPE OF RECRUITING,its just that some here said and you know who you are, that this isnt the way to build a team.

We have to do this kind of recruiting because our coach got here a month ago, he hasn't been here for 6 years.
(04-28-2012 10:25 PM)rebounder2u Wrote: [ -> ]Okay I thought signing JC players, 5th year transfers with only 1 year to play and another guard was something that upset you guys. I thought you guys said we needed to build our team from the ground up and we didnt need quick fixes.
We have two players taller then 6'7 so what do we sign, another guard, and then someone mentioned fastest forty,come on guys.
Now I believed Haase when he said he would not fill the spots just to say he filled the spots, but... he now has to sign a big who can play now.

I thought you guys didnt want to see this type of team, yea right, I saw your posts applauding, saying how good the signing of a guard, JC players and a 5th year transfer is going to be, feels like old times in recruiting, seems like XCMD might be the recruiting coordinator.

I am supportive of the win now recruiting attitude of Haase. Its the same attitude our previous staff had but could not pull it off when it counted.
We will need this kid to play big minutes for us and I believe he will fit in well with our returning, 2's and 3's.

But guys go back and read some of your posts about this type of recruiting, NOT THAT THERES ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS TYPE OF RECRUITING,its just that some here said and you know who you are, that this isnt the way to build a team.

We changed our minds.
And we deleted our old posts where we complained about it.
REBOUNDER, JUST LET IT GO ALREADY. HAASE CAME INTO THE GAME LATE AND DOING THE BEST HE CAN IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

I don't understand why this is so hard to comprehend. Let me try to spell it out for you. Davis had 6 years to get his $hit together, and he didn't do it. If Haase is here in 6 years, we will expect him to be signing young players. For now, it is better to sign a guy for one year, see if he can contribute, and cut ties at the end of the season than it is to sign some 0 star guy who rots on the bench and takes up a scholarship for 4 years.

This recruiting strategy generally sucks(aside from the occassional JC guy) but Haase doesn't have a ton of options right now. He also knows that any more guys with 2 years of eligibility will add to what is already a large junior class. If we sign a guy with a year left who will not take up a scholarship in the fall, that's fine. If he works, he works. If not, we have the scholarship, and the guys who can bring players in here.

I assure you, Haase is aware of the size shortage on the team. I am sure he has targeted several guys. He has also kept things pretty quiet while recruiting(in case you haven't noticed) and we've been finding out pretty much as things happen. If Herb stays, and ASW stays, we at least have a few bigs who should be ok in the system. I am sure Haase is doing everything in his power to get 2 more bigs with those last 2 scholarships.

Just let the XCMD/Haase comparisons go until next year. Once Haase has a full year to recruit(and 75% of recruits aren't already taken) then you can say something to any of us you want if he is still doing this.
And just to piss rebounder off, I'm not going to complain if Haase doesn't win a conference tournament game or make the NCAA either.
(04-28-2012 10:25 PM)rebounder2u Wrote: [ -> ]Okay I thought signing JC players, 5th year transfers with only 1 year to play and another guard was something that upset you guys. I thought you guys said we needed to build our team from the ground up and we didnt need quick fixes.
We have two players taller then 6'7 so what do we sign, another guard, and then someone mentioned fastest forty,come on guys.
Now I believed Haase when he said he would not fill the spots just to say he filled the spots, but... he now has to sign a big who can play now.

I thought you guys didnt want to see this type of team, yea right, I saw your posts applauding, saying how good the signing of a guard, JC players and a 5th year transfer is going to be, feels like old times in recruiting, seems like XCMD might be the recruiting coordinator.

I am supportive of the win now recruiting attitude of Haase. Its the same attitude our previous staff had but could not pull it off when it counted.
We will need this kid to play big minutes for us and I believe he will fit in well with our returning, 2's and 3's.

But guys go back and read some of your posts about this type of recruiting, NOT THAT THERES ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS TYPE OF RECRUITING,its just that some here said and you know who you are, that this isnt the way to build a team.

The problem was it became part of XCMD recruiting strategy, not just a 1 year, get-thru-it fix. Not knowing recruits until Fall classes began got really frustrating.
(04-28-2012 10:55 PM)WesternBlazer Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-28-2012 10:25 PM)rebounder2u Wrote: [ -> ]Okay I thought signing JC players, 5th year transfers with only 1 year to play and another guard was something that upset you guys. I thought you guys said we needed to build our team from the ground up and we didnt need quick fixes.
We have two players taller then 6'7 so what do we sign, another guard, and then someone mentioned fastest forty,come on guys.
Now I believed Haase when he said he would not fill the spots just to say he filled the spots, but... he now has to sign a big who can play now.

I thought you guys didnt want to see this type of team, yea right, I saw your posts applauding, saying how good the signing of a guard, JC players and a 5th year transfer is going to be, feels like old times in recruiting, seems like XCMD might be the recruiting coordinator.

I am supportive of the win now recruiting attitude of Haase. Its the same attitude our previous staff had but could not pull it off when it counted.
We will need this kid to play big minutes for us and I believe he will fit in well with our returning, 2's and 3's.

But guys go back and read some of your posts about this type of recruiting, NOT THAT THERES ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS TYPE OF RECRUITING,its just that some here said and you know who you are, that this isnt the way to build a team.

The problem was it became part of XCMD recruiting strategy, not just a 1 year, get-thru-it fix. Not knowing recruits until Fall classes began got really frustrating.

Yep. Under CMD we would've signed these two guys in August or September.

Rebounder - this is a ONE YEAR FIX not a SIX YEAR STRATEGY. Please tell me you are just being annoying and dumb on purpose. I hope you aren't moronic enough to still not understand the difference. IT IS OK TO TARGET THESE GUYS UNDER THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES - RIGHT NOW IS ONE OF THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.

Like others have said, if he's still signing all jucos and 5th year guys a year from now, we can all start complaining together.

Please understand the difference, and quit being so (hopefully) purposefully annoying and hard headed.
(04-28-2012 10:25 PM)rebounder2u Wrote: [ -> ]Okay I thought signing JC players, 5th year transfers with only 1 year to play and another guard was something that upset you guys. I thought you guys said we needed to build our team from the ground up and we didnt need quick fixes.
We have two players taller then 6'7 so what do we sign, another guard, and then someone mentioned fastest forty,come on guys.
Now I believed Haase when he said he would not fill the spots just to say he filled the spots, but... he now has to sign a big who can play now.

I thought you guys didnt want to see this type of team, yea right, I saw your posts applauding, saying how good the signing of a guard, JC players and a 5th year transfer is going to be, feels like old times in recruiting, seems like XCMD might be the recruiting coordinator.

I am supportive of the win now recruiting attitude of Haase. Its the same attitude our previous staff had but could not pull it off when it counted.
We will need this kid to play big minutes for us and I believe he will fit in well with our returning, 2's and 3's.

But guys go back and read some of your posts about this type of recruiting, NOT THAT THERES ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS TYPE OF RECRUITING,its just that some here said and you know who you are, that this isnt the way to build a team.

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Dude, relax.
I saw the kid Friday. He can ball. He's going to get good minutes.

He'll do more for us than guys we had on our bench last season, even if they were taller than 6'3".
The Answer UAB's bold prediction of the off season:

Jones will score more in his first game as a Blazer than ASW, Beas, or Todd OBrien did in all of last season combined.
(04-28-2012 11:56 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote: [ -> ]The Answer UAB's bold prediction of the off season:

Jones will score more in his first game as a Blazer than ASW, Beas, or Todd OBrien did in all of last season combined.

So, >4?
The number would be 11

AWS= 7
Beas =4
It amaze me that more then half of my post were in support of Haase, yet some here focused only on being called out.

I also find it amazing that we have such short memories here at Blazertalk, this is the same way Davis started off and ended up.

I could have wrote most replies, except "we changed our minds" and "we deleted our old post", that was funny.

Man cant a person VOICE AN OPINION that happens to be true here.
I never said I dont support the decision TO RECRUIT THIS WAY, in fact I said I like that Hasse Chose to win now, yet the only thing some read was, he is supporting XCMD and bashing Haase, nothing is further from the truth, I am actuall bashing those who thought not so long ago that this was not the way to recruit long term or short term.

Look if a 5 year transfer can come in and provide good minutes get him, if a JC player can come in and contribute now get him

It is getting to be we need a BlazerTalk historian just to keep up with the changing opinions here.

Okay here's my opinion, Haase is our coach, I will support him, win or lose I will come to all the games, I will cheer for the coach during intro win or lose, I will not second guess his method of recuiting.
I will renew all season tickets in a timely manner, and not base the renewal on who the coach or players are.

I will shout GO BLAZERS as loud as I can. I will be the same no matter what is going on around me. I will not be a sheep I will not be doubled minded about supporting our teams, win or lose.

And dont call me DUDE.
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