I posted that article just for informational purposes. I, personally, don't think that the Big East will ever lose its BCS spot and I'm not hoping that they lose their spot.
I do find it odd and unfortunate how some fans of nouveau BCS members actually don't want conferences like the Mountain West of C-USA to have a shot at getting a BCS spot. They have finally gotten into the "clique" and they don't want their former "friends" to get in with them.
Some folks are way too defensive when the subject of eligibility for BCS bids comes up. I'm not trying to take the Big East's spot and I'm not saying that the Big East is going to lose its spot. I merely posted the article because it mentioned that the actual (not rumored) formula for keeping your BCS bid may be determined by November. I have never seen that in print before. There's been a lot of rumor, conjecture and debate on this message board about what it will take to keep or lose a BCS bid and I was trying to add some real facts.
Everybody relax.
What kind of reaction did you expect? Go over to the CUSA or MWC boards and they have already added this article to the Gospels right next to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. I'm sure some of them have printed it and hung it on their walls next to the velvet Elvis. Next thing you know they will be lighting candles around it. And why, because it gives them hope and it is a point of view that they agree with. Let a journalist from an eastern paper write a positive article about the Big East and they want to hang the guy. I wouldn't expect them to act any different.
CJ
3601 Wrote:I posted that article just for informational purposes. I, personally, don't think that the Big East will ever lose its BCS spot and I'm not hoping that they lose their spot.
I do find it odd and unfortunate how some fans of nouveau BCS members actually don't want conferences like the Mountain West of C-USA to have a shot at getting a BCS spot. They have finally gotten into the "clique" and they don't want their former "friends" to get in with them.
Some folks are way too defensive when the subject of eligibility for BCS bids comes up. I'm not trying to take the Big East's spot and I'm not saying that the Big East is going to lose its spot. I merely posted the article because it mentioned that the actual (not rumored) formula for keeping your BCS bid may be determined by November. I have never seen that in print before. There's been a lot of rumor, conjecture and debate on this message board about what it will take to keep or lose a BCS bid and I was trying to add some real facts.
Everybody relax.
No one is excited, we are all relaxed. You posted one article that didn't even mention the Big East losing the bid and did mention membership requirements including national television exposure, attendance, etc. which is basically saying market matters. The Big East is going nowhere. If anyone should be concerned with the gist of that article is should be CUSA with SMU, Tulsa, UAB, UTEP, UCF, etc. not bringing a damn to the table in terms of ratings or fans.
Even if the BCS bid were to be removed, which will not happen, the Big East is still head and shoulders above CUSA in terms of where Louisville wants to be. The association with shcools of such academic standing and flagship status easily trumps a conference composed of a bunch of directional commuters and regional colleges. These are simply facts.
I think the large majority of us on this board are just sick and tired of NCUSA fans acting like 3 year olds. Topboob is wrong ALL THE TIME and yet he parades over here like he is some all knowing guru. Then a guy like you comes over here with one article out of the countless articles posted here that "sort of" (and that's a stretch) reflects Topboobs and other Big East well wishers views and its flamebait. Feed the trolls on some other board but keep the minority opinion articles out of San Diego off ours considering the trolls.
"I'm not trying to take the Big East's spot and I'm not saying that the Big East is going to lose its spot."
--If you ever want to see the day that Memphis gets into a BCS conference......you had better be praying the BE does not lose its bid....the hard truth is we are your only way out of CUSA
Jackson
3601 Wrote:I posted that article just for informational purposes. I, personally, don't think that the Big East will ever lose its BCS spot and I'm not hoping that they lose their spot.
I do find it odd and unfortunate how some fans of nouveau BCS members actually don't want conferences like the Mountain West of C-USA to have a shot at getting a BCS spot. They have finally gotten into the "clique" and they don't want their former "friends" to get in with them.
Some folks are way too defensive when the subject of eligibility for BCS bids comes up. I'm not trying to take the Big East's spot and I'm not saying that the Big East is going to lose its spot. I merely posted the article because it mentioned that the actual (not rumored) formula for keeping your BCS bid may be determined by November. I have never seen that in print before. There's been a lot of rumor, conjecture and debate on this message board about what it will take to keep or lose a BCS bid and I was trying to add some real facts.
Everybody relax.
Why WOULDN'T we be defensive? It just gets old listening to fans like C-USA fans run over to our board and constantly whine about how the Big East will lose their bid and this and that. Why not post articles like this on the SEC board? Or the Big Ten board? I'm not saying I don't want the Mountain West or C-USA to have a BCS bid, but schools of those conferences have made it clear they don't want the Big East to have their BCS bid so you can't have it both way and complain when Big East and soon to be Big East team's fans strike back. Seriously, what do fans of those conferences expect? All you hear from them are "the Big Least, you don't deserve a BCS bid, you're going to lose a BCS bid, the conference sucks", and then "why are you so defensive, why don't you want us to have a BCS bid"? Seriously, until posts started popping up constantly pointing out rumors about the Big East, none which have come to fruition, I hadn't said anything about the Mountain West or C-USA's BCS status. And I think that's pretty admirable considering UC, UofL and South Florida fans have essentially been exiled from the C-USA board and the board constantly trash us and roots against us even though we're still in C-USA.
L-yes Wrote:No one is excited, we are all relaxed. You posted one article that didn't even mention the Big East losing the bid and did mention membership requirements including national television exposure, attendance, etc. which is basically saying market matters. The Big East is going nowhere. If anyone should be concerned with the gist of that article is should be CUSA with SMU, Tulsa, UAB, UTEP, UCF, etc. not bringing a damn to the table in terms of ratings or fans.
Even if the BCS bid were to be removed, which will not happen, the Big East is still head and shoulders above CUSA in terms of where Louisville wants to be. The association with shcools of such academic standing and flagship status easily trumps a conference composed of a bunch of directional commuters and regional colleges. These are simply facts.
I think the large majority of us on this board are just sick and tired of NCUSA fans acting like 3 year olds. Topboob is wrong ALL THE TIME and yet he parades over here like he is some all knowing guru. Then a guy like you comes over here with one article out of the countless articles posted here that "sort of" (and that's a stretch) reflects Topboobs and other Big East well wishers views and its flamebait. Feed the trolls on some other board but keep the minority opinion articles out of San Diego off ours considering the trolls.
Bingo, I agree with much of that post. This isn't really pointed at 3601, didn't mean to attack him, he has been cool about everything, so I apologize to him. But, in the grand scheme of things, fans of those mentioned conferences do NOTHING but trash the Big East and wish ill-will on us. So why on earth would we have positive opinions of them? Geographically the Big East makes much more sense for UC and Louisville then C-USA, even the new C-USA. Maybe the New C-USA would geographically make more sense for South Florida then the Big East, but other things, like trying to improve academic standings, money to finance facilities, T.V. exposure, BCS access, much better recognition nationally for revenue and non-revenue sports, makes it logical sense. As much as we have preached the good of C-USA during the years it has still fallen short of that. The closest we have gotten is basketball. Same goes for the Mountain West. But, the bottomline is that the MWC and C-USA fans have made it clear, and MWC officials have made it clear they don't like the Big East and basically wish ill-will on it. So why WOULDN'T we be sensitive or defensive, or at least annoyed?
The others have better much answered your question so I will not repeat. However, I am sick of hearing about it. CUSA has always wanted the Big East to fail along with the MWC so CUSA could become BCS but it is not going to happen, bubba!