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...but this website lists Sean Kilpatrick as "Likely to Enter" the NBA Draft. I haven't heard any inkling that he'll even put his name out there, so I was kind of shocked.

http://nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list
Pfft, no way.
A guy can dream, but in a two round draft, not gonna happen, at least not this year. Maybe he'll fill out paperwork but not hire an agent so they can at least formally evaluate him.
Well with the new rule changes, there really isn't a period for the kids to get evaluated. By April 10th, they have the decide if they are going to withdraw from the draft.
He won't get drafted.
I don't see him leaving. He has a good head on his shoulders and is smart enough to realize that his game has plenty of room to improve before he is ready to make the jump to the NBA.
I love Sean, but his game is nowhere near complete enough to make the jump yet.
Too many areas of his game need improvement, particularly ball-handling. He's somewhat of a tweener as well, too short to be anything but a two guard and he's not quick enough or a good enough shooter off the dribble. Stand still shooter, he is good, but he's not shown the ability to shoot off the dribble. And I love SK as a Bearcat. If he stays for the full four years, he will wind up in the top 5-6 all-time Bearcat scorers.
(04-04-2012 07:38 PM)vabearcat Wrote: [ -> ]Too many areas of his game need improvement, particularly ball-handling. He's somewhat of a tweener as well, too short to be anything but a two guard and he's not quick enough or a good enough shooter off the dribble. Stand still shooter, he is good, but he's not shown the ability to shoot off the dribble. And I love SK as a Bearcat. If he stays for the full four years, he will wind up in the top 5-6 all-time Bearcat scorers.

If he just has two more years like his freshman and sophomore years he'll be in the top 6. If he averages 15 points a game in each of his next 2 years, he'll be right there with Fortson for 3rd place. He has a real shot at passing Logan before it's all over and getting to 2,000 points.
(04-04-2012 04:19 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote: [ -> ]...but this website lists Sean Kilpatrick as "Likely to Enter" the NBA Draft. I haven't heard any inkling that he'll even put his name out there, so I was kind of shocked.

http://nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list

I know Sean personally. He knows BEYOND a shadow of a doubt that he is not ready for the NBA. In my mind, nbadraft.net now has precisely ZERO credibility.
i wonder if he's got a kid or something. the fact that he could be 24 by the time his senior year rolls around might have something about it, but i can't possibly see him entering early any year. though i'd love to be wrong kinda (next year)
(04-05-2012 06:58 AM)QSECOFR Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-04-2012 04:19 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote: [ -> ]...but this website lists Sean Kilpatrick as "Likely to Enter" the NBA Draft. I haven't heard any inkling that he'll even put his name out there, so I was kind of shocked.

http://nbadraft.net/2012-early-entry-list

I know Sean personally. He knows BEYOND a shadow of a doubt that he is not ready for the NBA. In my mind, nbadraft.net now has precisely ZERO credibility.

That site has never been very good IMHO...my favorite is Draft Express. Jonathan Givony always seems to be one step ahead of "experts" like Chad Ford.
After the Crosstown brawl, Jonathan Givony instantly pulled Yancy Gates from his mock drafts. As the season went on and Yancy Gates helped lead UC back into the tournament, he found himself back in the draft mix. The write-up on Gates the other day was also fair...I'm just pulling for him to become a Piston 04-cheers

Quote:Trending Prospects
March 29, 2012

Cincinnati senior Yancy Gates had quite an eventful senior year, rebounding from the nasty brawl and six-game suspension to lead the Bearcats to the Sweet Sixteen. Though he disappeared down the stretch in a loss to Ohio State, he showed enough throughout the season to plant himself back on the NBA radar. Now, as his time at Cincinnati is over, scouts must decide whether his legitimate talent and potential trumps the long list of red flags that he has built up throughout his career.

At 6'9, with an excellent 7'3 wingspan and a massive 260-pound frame, Gates possesses good size for an NBA big man. He is solid athlete, as well, explosive around the basket, though probably more mobile than he is quick. Despite his good physical profile, improving his conditioning would do wonders for both his physique and athleticism, not to mention his standing with NBA teams.

On offense, Gates is more or less the same player that we profiled at the beginning of his senior season, displaying a combination of post play with some spot-up shooting and face-up potential. That being said, it's worth noting that Gates's 15.7 points per 40 minutes pace adjusted on just 46% from the field were both career lows this season.

In the post, Gates still lacks much of a post game, relying more upon brute strength than polished footwork. He still has a nice jump hook in his repertoire and can surprise his man with a quick spin on the baseline, but he is not consistently aggressive and rarely uses his size to his advantage at this level. Another issue is that Gates does not consistently post up, however, preferring to pull up or fade away than take his man to the basket.

His often inconsistent or uninspired aggressiveness and focus is a significant reason why he struggles to get to the foul line and why shoots such a low percentage from inside of the arc, as he rarely puts himself in position for easy baskets. When he's dialed in he's an asset in the post, carving out space and using his strength and athleticism to get to the basket, but you never quite know what to expect from Gates, as his performances fluctuate greatly depending on what day you catch him on.

Gates also sees his fair share of offense away from the basket, where he finds over 25% of his field goal attempts. Unfortunately, Gates is still not a great shooter, making just 31% of his jump shots according to Synergy without the shot selection or free throw percentage to suggest he is a better shooter than meets the eye. His release does not look bad, but he tends to fade away when he shoots, even with his feet set. Needless to say, he must work on his mechanics and decision making quite a bit before proving to scouts that he is a capable jump shooter.

One area where Gates has visibly improved, however, is on the offensive boards. As a senior, Gates was one of the better offensive rebounds in the country averaging 4.1 offensive rebounds per 40 minutes pace adjusted. Though he doesn't usually box out, his combination of strength, soft hands, length, instincts and leaping ability allow him to grab offensive rebounds and bring the ball straight back up to the basket. If he's able to improve his effort and focus-level as he matures he could be a very good offensive rebounder and finisher.

Gates is a solid defender, as well, showing very good lateral quickness for his size with the ability to stay in front of his man inside and outside. In the post, he does not make much of an effort to deny his man the ball, but he does an excellent job of standing his ground and forcing his man into tough shots. As is the case elsewhere in his game, focus can be an issue here and staying in his stance would help him significantly, but he should not be a liability guarding power forwards at the next level. He has proven to be a good rebounder, as well,grabbing a career-high 11.5 rebounds per 40 minutes pace adjusted

Nevertheless, Yancy Gates is a difficult player to project at the next level. On one hand, he has an excellent physical profile with an interesting skill set and significant potential. On the other hand, he has a myriad of red flags, from “the Xavier brawl” to his shoddy conditioning, his multiple suspensions to his inconsistent effort. Gates certainly has the talent to get drafted and could have a lot of value to a team if he's able to overcome the issues that have plagued him throughout his career. In the meantime, Gates must do everything in his power to prove that his past his behind him while showing greater effort on both ends of the floor.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Yancy-Gates-1281/
(04-05-2012 08:26 AM)SeniorBearcat Wrote: [ -> ]After the Crosstown brawl, Jonathan Givony instantly pulled Yancy Gates from his mock drafts. As the season went on and Yancy Gates helped lead UC back into the tournament, he found himself back in the draft mix. The write-up on Gates the other day was also fair...I'm just pulling for him to become a Piston 04-cheers

Quote:Trending Prospects
March 29, 2012

Cincinnati senior Yancy Gates had quite an eventful senior year, rebounding from the nasty brawl and six-game suspension to lead the Bearcats to the Sweet Sixteen. Though he disappeared down the stretch in a loss to Ohio State, he showed enough throughout the season to plant himself back on the NBA radar. Now, as his time at Cincinnati is over, scouts must decide whether his legitimate talent and potential trumps the long list of red flags that he has built up throughout his career.

At 6'9, with an excellent 7'3 wingspan and a massive 260-pound frame, Gates possesses good size for an NBA big man. He is solid athlete, as well, explosive around the basket, though probably more mobile than he is quick. Despite his good physical profile, improving his conditioning would do wonders for both his physique and athleticism, not to mention his standing with NBA teams.

On offense, Gates is more or less the same player that we profiled at the beginning of his senior season, displaying a combination of post play with some spot-up shooting and face-up potential. That being said, it's worth noting that Gates's 15.7 points per 40 minutes pace adjusted on just 46% from the field were both career lows this season.

In the post, Gates still lacks much of a post game, relying more upon brute strength than polished footwork. He still has a nice jump hook in his repertoire and can surprise his man with a quick spin on the baseline, but he is not consistently aggressive and rarely uses his size to his advantage at this level. Another issue is that Gates does not consistently post up, however, preferring to pull up or fade away than take his man to the basket.

His often inconsistent or uninspired aggressiveness and focus is a significant reason why he struggles to get to the foul line and why shoots such a low percentage from inside of the arc, as he rarely puts himself in position for easy baskets. When he's dialed in he's an asset in the post, carving out space and using his strength and athleticism to get to the basket, but you never quite know what to expect from Gates, as his performances fluctuate greatly depending on what day you catch him on.

Gates also sees his fair share of offense away from the basket, where he finds over 25% of his field goal attempts. Unfortunately, Gates is still not a great shooter, making just 31% of his jump shots according to Synergy without the shot selection or free throw percentage to suggest he is a better shooter than meets the eye. His release does not look bad, but he tends to fade away when he shoots, even with his feet set. Needless to say, he must work on his mechanics and decision making quite a bit before proving to scouts that he is a capable jump shooter.

One area where Gates has visibly improved, however, is on the offensive boards. As a senior, Gates was one of the better offensive rebounds in the country averaging 4.1 offensive rebounds per 40 minutes pace adjusted. Though he doesn't usually box out, his combination of strength, soft hands, length, instincts and leaping ability allow him to grab offensive rebounds and bring the ball straight back up to the basket. If he's able to improve his effort and focus-level as he matures he could be a very good offensive rebounder and finisher.

Gates is a solid defender, as well, showing very good lateral quickness for his size with the ability to stay in front of his man inside and outside. In the post, he does not make much of an effort to deny his man the ball, but he does an excellent job of standing his ground and forcing his man into tough shots. As is the case elsewhere in his game, focus can be an issue here and staying in his stance would help him significantly, but he should not be a liability guarding power forwards at the next level. He has proven to be a good rebounder, as well,grabbing a career-high 11.5 rebounds per 40 minutes pace adjusted

Nevertheless, Yancy Gates is a difficult player to project at the next level. On one hand, he has an excellent physical profile with an interesting skill set and significant potential. On the other hand, he has a myriad of red flags, from “the Xavier brawl” to his shoddy conditioning, his multiple suspensions to his inconsistent effort. Gates certainly has the talent to get drafted and could have a lot of value to a team if he's able to overcome the issues that have plagued him throughout his career. In the meantime, Gates must do everything in his power to prove that his past his behind him while showing greater effort on both ends of the floor.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Yancy-Gates-1281/

Maxiell is on the Pistons now, isn't he? Would be nice to have Yancy join him.
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