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This issue isn't new to former NCAA President Cedric Dempsey. The NCAA restructured itself in the 1990s, largely due to concerns about legislative equity. The one-school, one-vote model was abandoned. The 11 Football Bowl Subdivision conferences -- including all six BCS conferences -- are now permanently on the 18-member Division I Board of Directors.

"I would suspect there's going to be either another subdivision or a separate division itself," Dempsey said. "Control and money are the driving forces."
All this is an opinion expressed by one man. There are no active plans to split.

Recently legislation was passed preventing an upgrade to Division 1 without an invite from an existing conference and the same applies to the FBS level. This will largely stem the tide of migration with a few exceptions in special cases; UNO to Summit and UMass to the MAC.

The issue, IMO is the migration rules should have been in place 15 years ago before some 50-60 schools decided to move from DII to DI. The damage has already been done.
Yeah, it's likely coming.
They have proof that small teams like TCU or Boise State can compete. Those schools were nobody's at one time. All it takes is a few years... NIU, OU, or Toledo could be the next Boise State or TCU and compete/beat teams in huge bowls. By seperating divisons they're preventing that from ever happening again. That's what we live for in the small football world. If the highest possibility for a MAC school is beating an SBC champ in a sub-bowl national title than I think I may lose interest in football all together. Why is everyone scared of the little guy... If our teams are so bad, and if we can't generate enough money then don't put us on ESPN. That's a win win for everyone! But still let us whoop on Big10 teams for fun 02-13-banana For gosh sakes they already keep us basically in (smaller divisons). We don't get automatic tie ins to BCS games, and they only paired non-AQ's with 6 BCS teams last year in bowl games. People want a playoff system for the exact reason that the little guy should get a chance at competing for a national title...along with the SEC getting 4 teams. So why split!
Quick point, it takes more than a couple years of winning. Boise has been winning since 1999. It took them 13 years to get into a BCS conference AND they were aided by continual beat downs they administered to BCS schools... Has anyone ever asked themselves how Boise managed to keep Pederson and pay him?

CMU won consistently for 4 years, and never came close to Boise comparisons.

Point being, it will take a decade of winning 10 games per year on average for a MAC team to draw accurate comparisons to Boise or TCU. Not to mention, a MAC team will have to do it beating BCS teams on the road. Anytime...anywhere....
Its one guys opinion. Not in the cards.
Boise is a good example TCU is not. TCU was in a major conference for most of its existence until the SWC broke up in the early 90s. So in other words it was only small time a little over a decade.

As for Boises coach it is more than just money as if it was just money he would leave he has something else keeping him there (though he does get paid well of course and that does help).
(04-02-2012 07:54 AM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote: [ -> ]Boise is a good example TCU is not. TCU was in a major conference for most of its existence until the SWC broke up in the early 90s. So in other words it was only small time a little over a decade.

As for Boises coach it is more than just money as if it was just money he would leave he has something else keeping him there (though he does get paid well of course and that does help).

Agreed...again, my only point is that it takes more than a couple years...you need a solid 5+ with a history of smacking legit opponents in the mouth.

I hope the MAC has a team, or teams, that get there.
the rumors of this is exactly why a school like JMU wants to move up sooner rather than later. We don't want to be left in a "3rd division" of college football when we've been subjected to a "2nd division" for 35 years or so. By staying put, we're regressing.
The whole split between the haves and have nots is disturbing and only gets worse every day. And the NCAA doesn't give a rats ass about us non-BCS DIA programs. I would love to see them mandate the BCS schools to have to go on the road at least once or twice a year in OOC games. They say a only one DIAA win counts toward bowl eligibility, let's see them try and level the playing field a bit and the best way to do it is make them go on the road. A basketball team can go away from home to play against a bigger program and dictate the flow of the game and pull one out of their ass, doing it in football is extremely hard to do. That's why the Appalachian State game over Michigan was so monumental at the time. I'd also to see see us non-BCSers collude and refuse to be their 'homecoming games' so they can pad their win totals for bowl eligiblity, but sadly most of our programs need the revenue.
(04-02-2012 10:00 AM)Dukes09 Wrote: [ -> ]the rumors of this is exactly why a school like JMU wants to move up sooner rather than later. We don't want to be left in a "3rd division" of college football when we've been subjected to a "2nd division" for 35 years or so. By staying put, we're regressing.

I would be willing to bet that the top 20 or so programs from the FCS level that could make the commitment to enhancing their facilities to a current "low level" FBS standard (20-30K seats) would be included in this upcoming second division. In that sense, JMU has nothing to worry about.
(04-02-2012 12:14 PM)Redbird Ray Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2012 10:00 AM)Dukes09 Wrote: [ -> ]the rumors of this is exactly why a school like JMU wants to move up sooner rather than later. We don't want to be left in a "3rd division" of college football when we've been subjected to a "2nd division" for 35 years or so. By staying put, we're regressing.

I would be willing to bet that the top 20 or so programs from the FCS level that could make the commitment to enhancing their facilities to a current "low level" FBS standard (20-30K seats) would be included in this upcoming second division. In that sense, JMU has nothing to worry about.

If this comes to be then the CAA may become an equal to low end FBS conferences, and in some respects it already is except in name/title. However I certainly don't feel comfortable waiting to see if such a thing ever comes true.
(04-02-2012 10:46 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote: [ -> ]The whole split between the haves and have nots is disturbing and only gets worse every day. And the NCAA doesn't give a rats ass about us non-BCS DIA programs.

I think it is actually more like this:

(04-02-2012 10:46 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: [ -> ]The whole split between the haves and have nots is disturbing and only gets worse every day. And the BCS doesn't give a rats ass about the NCAA.
(04-02-2012 12:14 PM)Redbird Ray Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2012 10:00 AM)Dukes09 Wrote: [ -> ]the rumors of this is exactly why a school like JMU wants to move up sooner rather than later. We don't want to be left in a "3rd division" of college football when we've been subjected to a "2nd division" for 35 years or so. By staying put, we're regressing.

I would be willing to bet that the top 20 or so programs from the FCS level that could make the commitment to enhancing their facilities to a current "low level" FBS standard (20-30K seats) would be included in this upcoming second division. In that sense, JMU has nothing to worry about.

Doubt it.

I think nothing will happen, but if it did, why would the NCAA create a new tier of football, but then soften the already firm lines in the tiers below it? Makes no sense.
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