1. By winning. Some folks will come to see a winner as long as they are winning.
2. By promotion. P. T. Barnum proved that. Put gloss on a mediocre product and some people will buy it. Make coming to games fun.
3. By making new UALR fans. Those are the toughest commodity to come by - but I think it can be done, IF the administration wants to.
We just are not working with that big of a sample of people in Arkansas who actually care about basketball.
(03-30-2012 12:48 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]1. By winning. Some folks will come to see a winner as long as they are winning.
2. By promotion. P. T. Barnum proved that. Put gloss on a mediocre product and some people will buy it. Make coming to games fun.
3. By making new UALR fans. Those are the toughest commodity to come by - but I think it can be done, IF the administration wants to.
Mediocre is hard to "gloss" over. Yes, a good program can be realized if the administration wants it to be. Evidently ours doesn't care as long as they can pay the bills. They obviously don't care whether anyone is sitting in the seats as long as they are sold. One
good thing I can say about the University of Arkansas is, they don't put up with "mediocre" very long. They don't like empty seats.
(03-30-2012 01:03 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2012 12:48 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]1. By winning. Some folks will come to see a winner as long as they are winning.
2. By promotion. P. T. Barnum proved that. Put gloss on a mediocre product and some people will buy it. Make coming to games fun.
3. By making new UALR fans. Those are the toughest commodity to come by - but I think it can be done, IF the administration wants to.
Mediocre is hard to "gloss" over. Yes, a good program can be realized if the administration wants it to be. Evidently ours doesn't care as long as they can pay the bills. They obviously don't care whether anyone is sitting in the seats as long as they are sold. One good thing I can say about the University of Arkansas is, they don't put up with "mediocre" very long. They don't like empty seats.
No, but if they hadn't made 3 coaching changes, in the last 10 years, they would never have dropped to where they are now. No doubt, in my mind they would have continued to be successful if they kept Nolan. Heath had 2 straight NCAA appearances and had his best team coming back the year he was fired. He would have had the program in very good shape by now if he had been kept on. Firing is often the easy answer, but maybe not the best answer.
(03-30-2012 02:02 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2012 01:03 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2012 12:48 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]1. By winning. Some folks will come to see a winner as long as they are winning.
2. By promotion. P. T. Barnum proved that. Put gloss on a mediocre product and some people will buy it. Make coming to games fun.
3. By making new UALR fans. Those are the toughest commodity to come by - but I think it can be done, IF the administration wants to.
Mediocre is hard to "gloss" over. Yes, a good program can be realized if the administration wants it to be. Evidently ours doesn't care as long as they can pay the bills. They obviously don't care whether anyone is sitting in the seats as long as they are sold. One good thing I can say about the University of Arkansas is, they don't put up with "mediocre" very long. They don't like empty seats.
No, but if they hadn't made 3 coaching changes, in the last 10 years, they would never have dropped to where they are now. No doubt, in my mind they would have continued to be successful if they kept Nolan. Heath had 2 straight NCAA appearances and had his best team coming back the year he was fired. He would have had the program in very good shape by now if he had been kept on. Firing is often the easy answer, but maybe not the best answer.
There are times when you've got to fire coaches for things other than being mediocre or worse. They didn't have any choice to get rid of Richardson. He was a cancer on their program. He thought he was bigger than the program.
(03-30-2012 02:27 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2012 02:02 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2012 01:03 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2012 12:48 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]1. By winning. Some folks will come to see a winner as long as they are winning.
2. By promotion. P. T. Barnum proved that. Put gloss on a mediocre product and some people will buy it. Make coming to games fun.
3. By making new UALR fans. Those are the toughest commodity to come by - but I think it can be done, IF the administration wants to.
Mediocre is hard to "gloss" over. Yes, a good program can be realized if the administration wants it to be. Evidently ours doesn't care as long as they can pay the bills. They obviously don't care whether anyone is sitting in the seats as long as they are sold. One good thing I can say about the University of Arkansas is, they don't put up with "mediocre" very long. They don't like empty seats.
No, but if they hadn't made 3 coaching changes, in the last 10 years, they would never have dropped to where they are now. No doubt, in my mind they would have continued to be successful if they kept Nolan. Heath had 2 straight NCAA appearances and had his best team coming back the year he was fired. He would have had the program in very good shape by now if he had been kept on. Firing is often the easy answer, but maybe not the best answer.
There are times when you've got to fire coaches for things other than being mediocre or worse. They didn't have any choice to get rid of Richardson. He was a cancer on their program. He thought he was bigger than the program.
How was he a "cancer" on the program. He had a couple of down years. It happens. Nolan knew Broyles was trying to push him out and went off- big deal. He didn't say anything that wasn't true. He had Andre Iguadala signed and would have had Sullinger coming back instead of transferring. Add Joe Johnson and you have a Final 4 team. I guess hindsight is 20/20.
I agree with you on this one. Nolan should have never been fired. So they had some words in public. That could have and should have been worked out, with apologies on both sides, and gone on from there. You brought up a great point in the players that were coming in that didn't because Nolan left. It was a terrible mistake on the administration and Frank Broyles part. Ego got in the way of good sense. And it took down what was a top tier program, even though there had been a couple of down years. I believe they would have gotten back on top pretty quick, but you can't turn back the clock.
(03-30-2012 03:35 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]How was he a "cancer" on the program. He had a couple of down years. It happens. Nolan knew Broyles was trying to push him out and went off- big deal. He didn't say anything that wasn't true. He had Andre Iguadala signed and would have had Sullinger coming back instead of transferring. Add Joe Johnson and you have a Final 4 team. I guess hindsight is 20/20.
By constantly running his big mouth. He wasn't fired because of his coaching record. His constant tirades brought bad publicity to the school. He was insubordinate. You can't say the things he said and keep your job. Whether or not he never said anything that wasn't true, I don't have a clue. But, that's not the way you remain employed. If you don't agree with me on that, try it with your boss. After listening to him for years, my personal opinion of him is that he is the picture of racism.
(03-30-2012 07:19 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2012 03:35 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]How was he a "cancer" on the program. He had a couple of down years. It happens. Nolan knew Broyles was trying to push him out and went off- big deal. He didn't say anything that wasn't true. He had Andre Iguadala signed and would have had Sullinger coming back instead of transferring. Add Joe Johnson and you have a Final 4 team. I guess hindsight is 20/20.
By constantly running his big mouth. He wasn't fired because of his coaching record. His constant tirades brought bad publicity to the school. He was insubordinate. You can't say the things he said and keep your job. Whether or not he never said anything that wasn't true, I don't have a clue. But, that's not the way you remain employed. If you don't agree with me on that, try it with your boss. After listening to him for years, my personal opinion of him is that he is the picture of racism.
Nolan always had strong opinions on things and spoke out about those. He was a proud man stood up for what he believed and wouldn't back down for anyone. Wasn't problem for Broyles, or anyone else up there, until he had a couple of down years.
Final straw was when he was on the radio after a game, and I think Arkansas had lost, and he said that if the administration was unhappy with him, they could just pay him off. It wasn't a smart thing to say, and it cost him his job.
(03-31-2012 09:19 AM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]Final straw was when he was on the radio after a game, and I think Arkansas had lost, and he said that if the administration was unhappy with him, they could just pay him off. It wasn't a smart thing to say, and it cost him his job.
I'm pretty sure he said the same thing or something similar before. They were looking for an excuse to fire him and he gave it to them.
(03-31-2012 12:01 AM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]Nolan always had strong opinions on things and spoke out about those. He was a proud man stood up for what he believed and wouldn't back down for anyone. Wasn't problem for Broyles, or anyone else up there, until he had a couple of down years.
I have strong opinions too, but I know when to hold'em and when to fold'em. I have no problem with a person having strong beliefs, and standing up for them, and if they're willing to lose their job over them, then let'em go for it. As I said before, try pulling some of that **** Richardson did with your boss, and see what happens.
She'd kick me out of the house!