Ok here goes.
I took the week 15 cbs bcs ranking and conference championships and came up with this.
This proposed bracket is a 32 team bracket that takes into account bcs rankings and conference champions. From every conference (counting independents as a conference). The bracket is 4 sets of 8. As follows.
NORTH
MAC
BIG 10
INDY
SOUTH
SEC
SBC
C-USA
EAST
BIG 12
BIG EAST
ACC
WEST
PAC12
WAC
MWC
Requirements are “Big 4” get 4 spots as long as all 4 are in top 25 or played in the conference championship game (call it the UCLA rule). Other two conferences and indys get 2 bids each conference champ and highest bcs ranked non champ or played in champion ship game. If “ big 4” don’t have 4 in top 25, or 3 in top 25 1 in conference championship then the highest ranked team left out gets the extra spot. This years bracket would set up like this…
North
MAC- Northern illionois, Ohio
Big 10 – Wisconsin, Michigan State, Nebraska, Michigan
Indy- BYU, Notre Dame
South
SEC- LSU, Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas
SBC- Arkansas state, Louisiana
CUSA- Southern miss, Houston
East
Big12 Oklahoma state, Kansas State, Baylor, Oklahoma
Big east- Cincinati, West Virginia
ACC – Clemson, Vtech
West
Pac12- Oregon, UCLA, Stanford, * Pen State*
WAC- La Tech, Utah State
MWC- TCU, BSU
Each section breaks down like this:
North
1. #10 Wisconsin VS 8. #64 ohio
2. #13 Michigan VS 7. #34 Northern illionois
3. #17 Michigan State VS 6. #32 Birmingham Young
4. #20 Nebraska VS #30 Notre dame
SOUTH
1. #1 LSU VS 8. #63 Louisiana
2. #2 Alabama VS 7.#35 Arkansas State
3. #6 Arkansas VS 6. #19 houston
4. #16 Georgia VS 5. #21 Southern Miss
East
1. #3 OSU VS 8. #27 Cincinitati
2. #8 KSU VS 7. #23 West Virginia
3. # 15 Clemson VS # Oklahoma
4. # 11 Virginia Tech VS #12 Baylor
West
1. #5 Oregon VS 8. #72 Utah State
2. #4 Stanford VS 7. #37 LA Tech
3. #7 Boisie State VS 6. #54 UCLA
4. # 18 TCU VS 5. *** # 22 Penn State ****
Penn State* gets in because Pac12 didn’t have 4 teams in top 25 or play in championship game that were eligible for post season play. So the highest ranked team not already included gets the at large spot.
Comments??
Thirty-two represents more than a quarter of all college football programs. Too big. Too many teams. Too much overlapping into academics for the presidents. Sixteen is the right number, and it will never get bigger than that. Hell, I just hope I get to see a 16-team in my lifetime. The power brokers are going to do everything they can to never let it get as big as 16. We'll probably have the plus one model for a decade or two before it ever expands to eight.
Right now I'm somewhat happy with a plus-1. Take the top 4 ranked teams. Play the first round mid-December, championship game New Years. This idea of playing the championship game Jan 9th is ridiculous.
They like to say, "We can't have a playoff due to to much time from acadimics" then have the teams play until then, and it's not just that game. There are currently a handful of games that are played after Jan 1st.
Reign that back in, 2 weeks after conference championship games, and then 2 weeks after that.
If you want in, win. If Boise had won their games, they would have been in. Houston would have been left out this year, even if they won. For the lower tier teams, it will take years of success, just like Boise, but we would get our chance.
The first hurdle is to get the playoff started. Once it starts they know it will only continue to grow, which is why you have seen the fight to even get to a +1 all these years. They know once it gets momentum they won't be able to slow the playoff train down.
32 is way too many. More than likely 8 is enough. When have we ever said that the #9 team in the country got screwed out of the National Championship?
(03-20-2012 08:11 AM)Usajags Wrote: [ -> ]Right now I'm somewhat happy with a plus-1. Take the top 4 ranked teams. Play the first round mid-December, championship game New Years. This idea of playing the championship game Jan 9th is ridiculous.
They like to say, "We can't have a playoff due to to much time from acadimics" then have the teams play until then, and it's not just that game. There are currently a handful of games that are played after Jan 1st.
Reign that back in, 2 weeks after conference championship games, and then 2 weeks after that.
If you want in, win. If Boise had won their games, they would have been in. Houston would have been left out this year, even if they won. For the lower tier teams, it will take years of success, just like Boise, but we would get our chance.
The FCS play doesn't seem to affect their academics much (of course, the Ivy League doesn't take part for that reason), so I've always laughed when BC$ homers make that argument.
(03-20-2012 10:27 AM)panama Wrote: [ -> ]32 is way too many. More than likely 8 is enough. When have we ever said that the #9 team in the country got screwed out of the National Championship?
The number of times that Boise, TCU, Tulane, Hawaii, Utah, etc., have finished undefeated and outside the top 8...however many times that's been.
(03-20-2012 01:46 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: [ -> ] (03-20-2012 10:27 AM)panama Wrote: [ -> ]32 is way too many. More than likely 8 is enough. When have we ever said that the #9 team in the country got screwed out of the National Championship?
The number of times that Boise, TCU, Tulane, Hawaii, Utah, etc., have finished undefeated and outside the top 8...however many times that's been.
Ok...still think that 16 is too many. At 8 teams youre talking 16 games for a school in a conference with a championship game. That is more than enough.
(03-20-2012 01:54 PM)panama Wrote: [ -> ] (03-20-2012 01:46 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: [ -> ] (03-20-2012 10:27 AM)panama Wrote: [ -> ]32 is way too many. More than likely 8 is enough. When have we ever said that the #9 team in the country got screwed out of the National Championship?
The number of times that Boise, TCU, Tulane, Hawaii, Utah, etc., have finished undefeated and outside the top 8...however many times that's been.
Ok...still think that 16 is too many. At 8 teams youre talking 16 games for a school in a conference with a championship game. That is more than enough.
I think ultimately we're going to see a 6 team playoff with byes to the top two seeds, I just hope at some point it doubles to 12.
Would love to see 16, but doubt it happens, if the only concern with 16 is playing too many games, I'd say shorten the regular season back to 11 games...
(03-20-2012 07:38 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: [ -> ]Thirty-two represents more than a quarter of all college football programs. Too big. Too many teams. Too much overlapping into academics for the presidents. Sixteen is the right number, and it will never get bigger than that. Hell, I just hope I get to see a 16-team in my lifetime. The power brokers are going to do everything they can to never let it get as big as 16. We'll probably have the plus one model for a decade or two before it ever expands to eight.
16 is the number. Take the conference champs plus the best of the rest. Use the BCS rankings to seed the playoff bracket. Basically, if you win your conference you are in the playoff. Then you will still see the number two teams from the SEC, PAC, BIG 10, and ACC definately get a second chance.
This year the playoff would have included
Arkansas State
Cincinnatti
Clemson
Houston
LSU
Louisiana Tech
Michigan State
Northern Illinois
Oklahoma State
Oregon
TCU
Alabama
Stanford
Virginia Tech
Boise State
Arkansas
First Round
Arkansas State vs LSU
Louisiana Tech vs Alabama
Northern Illinois vs Oklahoma State
Houston vs Stanford
Michigan State vs Virginia Tech
Texas Christian vs Boise State
Clemson vs Arkansas
Cincinatti vs Oregon
This would have had everybody watching every game.
(03-20-2012 02:18 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ] (03-20-2012 01:54 PM)panama Wrote: [ -> ] (03-20-2012 01:46 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: [ -> ] (03-20-2012 10:27 AM)panama Wrote: [ -> ]32 is way too many. More than likely 8 is enough. When have we ever said that the #9 team in the country got screwed out of the National Championship?
The number of times that Boise, TCU, Tulane, Hawaii, Utah, etc., have finished undefeated and outside the top 8...however many times that's been.
Ok...still think that 16 is too many. At 8 teams youre talking 16 games for a school in a conference with a championship game. That is more than enough.
I think ultimately we're going to see a 6 team playoff with byes to the top two seeds, I just hope at some point it doubles to 12.
Would love to see 16, but doubt it happens, if the only concern with 16 is playing too many games, I'd say shorten the regular season back to 11 games...
I agree, the move to 12 game seasons was to eliminate discussion of a playoff. It did not work. The problem now is that the 12th game is needed now so the schools can have one more home game to help pay off the stadium expansions. At any rate only 8 teams will play more than 14 games.
13th game - Conference Championship
14th game - 1st round - 16 teams
15th game - 2nd round - 8 teams
16th game - 3rd round - 4 teams
17th game - Championship game
Both North Dakota State and Sam Houston State played 15 games.