Cincinnati will play Toledo in a home-and-home football series beginning next season, with the Bearcats traveling to play at the Glass Bowl on Oct. 20.
Toledo will play at Cincinnati on Sept. 13, 2014, in Nippert Stadium.
The two schools have met six times before, with Cincinnati holding a 4-2 advantage in the series. The last meeting was at the 2001 Motor City Bowl, with Toledo winning 23-16.
Toledo finished 9-4 this season and won its bowl game. The Rockets have a new head coach in Matt Campbell.
Cincinnati had several openings in its nonconference schedule after a game with Ohio State was postponed and TCU left for the Big 12. A game against San Diego State was previously moved to 2016 -- though that would be a conference game now.
The Bearcats still have to fill one more slot for a 2012 nonconference game. Virginia Tech and Miami (Ohio) are already on the schedule for 2012. If West Virginia is able to leave for the Big 12, that would create yet another opening.
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Why home and home with another MAC school...all be it a decent one (at least the past few seasons)? Especially during the conference part of the schedule. Guess it is a money thing...
Jesus. Another MAC home and home...
Stupid move by UC. I can understand a home and home with a MAC/C-USA or whatever school considering the current scheduling situation but why Toledo!? That is the worst possible choice they could have made. UC has nothing to gain and everything to lose there. Why not Ball State? Or Eastern Michigan? Or someone like that? A home and home with another in-state MAC school is a bad move. There could have been plenty of better options than this. This Athletic Department needs to start stepping up to the plate and getting some better matchups for this football program. Multiple home and home's with MAC schools is a joke.
(01-11-2012 11:17 AM)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ]Stupid move by UC. I can understand a home and home with a MAC school considering the situation but why Toledo? That is the worst possible choice they could have made. UC has nothing to gain and everything to lose there. Why not Ball State? Or Eastern Michigan? Or someone like that? A home and home with another in-state MAC school is a bad move.
You'd seriously rather play garbage teams like Ball State or Eastern Michigan than Toledo? At least the Rockets are year-in and year-out one of the better MAC programs. Plus it wouldn't hurt Cincinnati recruiting to make in-roads in Northwestern Ohio which is generally Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State territory.
Glad I'm not the only one thing this is a bad move...
How much of this is the despiration of filling slots with the adjustments caused by TCU/WVA,
and what portion does the $ play into it?
Likely a combination of both
(01-11-2012 11:19 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2012 11:17 AM)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ]Stupid move by UC. I can understand a home and home with a MAC school considering the situation but why Toledo? That is the worst possible choice they could have made. UC has nothing to gain and everything to lose there. Why not Ball State? Or Eastern Michigan? Or someone like that? A home and home with another in-state MAC school is a bad move.
You'd seriously rather play garbage teams like Ball State or Eastern Michigan than Toledo? At least the Rockets are year-in and year-out one of the better MAC programs. Plus it wouldn't hurt Cincinnati recruiting to make in-roads in Northwestern Ohio which is generally Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State territory.
Yes I would. If I'm playing a home and home with a MAC school I'd want it to be as close to an automatic win as possible. I really dont see how one game in one region really helps generate in-roads into a geographical area. I've never really understood that one. Like I said this is a really bad move because UC has nothing to gain IMO and everything to lose.
(01-11-2012 11:21 AM)BearcatBeta Wrote: [ -> ]How much of this is the despiration of filling slots with the adjustments caused by TCU/WVA,
and what portion does the $ play into it?
Likely a combination of both
Most likely. That said they could have found better options at the non-BCS level than another in-state MAC school where UC has everything to lose. It's just a dumb move.
So...Va. Tech 9/29 on the road, Toledo 10/20 on the road...far from a sure thing on splitting those 2, although I think I may take a split. Could very easily go 0-2.
Any idea of what Toledo has coming back next year?
Also, given our relative success as a solid BCS program, I don't see how UC couldn't at least leverage a 2:1 in this situation. UT has got to be over the moon with this deal.
(01-11-2012 11:22 AM)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2012 11:19 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2012 11:17 AM)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ]Stupid move by UC. I can understand a home and home with a MAC school considering the situation but why Toledo? That is the worst possible choice they could have made. UC has nothing to gain and everything to lose there. Why not Ball State? Or Eastern Michigan? Or someone like that? A home and home with another in-state MAC school is a bad move.
You'd seriously rather play garbage teams like Ball State or Eastern Michigan than Toledo? At least the Rockets are year-in and year-out one of the better MAC programs. Plus it wouldn't hurt Cincinnati recruiting to make in-roads in Northwestern Ohio which is generally Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State territory.
Yes I would. If I'm playing a home and home with a MAC school I'd want it to be as close to an automatic win as possible. I really dont see how one game in one region really helps generate in-roads into a geographical area. I've never really understood that one. Like I said this is a really bad move because UC has nothing to gain IMO and everything to lose.
Cincinnati played one game in Miami, FL (Orange Bowl) and all of a sudden doors were open to homes of recruits in that area like never before. I agree with everyone on this board that playing MAC schools for less than a 2-for-1 at this point is ridiculous, and to Marcus' point if we have to schedule at MAC school I'd like it to be as easy of a win as possible, especially with it being a roadie next season and the Bearcats very young at key positions.
UC should never schedule a home and home with a non-BCS level school.
Maybe a 3-1 or 2-1 but not home and home.
It says we are on equal footing with a Mac school or at least that we think we are on level with a Mac school.
Smacks of desperation.
(01-11-2012 11:22 AM)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2012 11:19 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2012 11:17 AM)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ]Stupid move by UC. I can understand a home and home with a MAC school considering the situation but why Toledo? That is the worst possible choice they could have made. UC has nothing to gain and everything to lose there. Why not Ball State? Or Eastern Michigan? Or someone like that? A home and home with another in-state MAC school is a bad move.
You'd seriously rather play garbage teams like Ball State or Eastern Michigan than Toledo? At least the Rockets are year-in and year-out one of the better MAC programs. Plus it wouldn't hurt Cincinnati recruiting to make in-roads in Northwestern Ohio which is generally Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State territory.
Yes I would. If I'm playing a home and home with a MAC school I'd want it to be as close to an automatic win as possible. I really dont see how one game in one region really helps generate in-roads into a geographical area. I've never really understood that one. Like I said this is a really bad move because UC has nothing to gain IMO and everything to lose.
Kind of like the 1-AA theory. We won't get any respect for beating Toledo but will get killed if we lose. We never get credit for beating Miami when they have a good season. Maybe a game against Kent St. would've been better at least since we're recruiting more in NE Ohio. Hopefully there will be an announcement of us getting a BCS team to come to Nippert (even an Iowa State/Washington St. type of team) because I fear for our season ticket sales next year when people (read: casual fans) see how bad the home schedule is looking.
(01-11-2012 11:21 AM)BearcatBeta Wrote: [ -> ]How much of this is the despiration of filling slots with the adjustments caused by TCU/WVA,
and what portion does the $ play into it?
Likely a combination of both
I think you are correct Beta. UC is between a rock and hard place after
the OSU, and TCU games became non existent. If WVU leaves then you have to get another game.
(01-11-2012 11:30 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2012 11:22 AM)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2012 11:19 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2012 11:17 AM)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ]Stupid move by UC. I can understand a home and home with a MAC school considering the situation but why Toledo? That is the worst possible choice they could have made. UC has nothing to gain and everything to lose there. Why not Ball State? Or Eastern Michigan? Or someone like that? A home and home with another in-state MAC school is a bad move.
You'd seriously rather play garbage teams like Ball State or Eastern Michigan than Toledo? At least the Rockets are year-in and year-out one of the better MAC programs. Plus it wouldn't hurt Cincinnati recruiting to make in-roads in Northwestern Ohio which is generally Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State territory.
Yes I would. If I'm playing a home and home with a MAC school I'd want it to be as close to an automatic win as possible. I really dont see how one game in one region really helps generate in-roads into a geographical area. I've never really understood that one. Like I said this is a really bad move because UC has nothing to gain IMO and everything to lose.
Cincinnati played one game in Miami, FL (Orange Bowl) and all of a sudden doors were open to homes of recruits in that area like never before. I agree with everyone on this board that playing MAC schools for less than a 2-for-1 at this point is ridiculous, and to Marcus' point if we have to schedule at MAC school I'd like it to be as easy of a win as possible, especially with it being a roadie next season and the Bearcats very young at key positions.
Florida recruiting is about the current staff, not the Orange Bowl. CBJ had tons of Florida players on his CMU teams.
Who is to say that the other MAC schools had room on their schedule for next year? Or didn't have better options (as in, more $$). Toledo being a better school probably has more problems getting teams to play them. They gave Ohio State all they could handle this year.
(01-11-2012 11:34 AM)Racinejake Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2012 11:22 AM)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2012 11:19 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2012 11:17 AM)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ]Stupid move by UC. I can understand a home and home with a MAC school considering the situation but why Toledo? That is the worst possible choice they could have made. UC has nothing to gain and everything to lose there. Why not Ball State? Or Eastern Michigan? Or someone like that? A home and home with another in-state MAC school is a bad move.
You'd seriously rather play garbage teams like Ball State or Eastern Michigan than Toledo? At least the Rockets are year-in and year-out one of the better MAC programs. Plus it wouldn't hurt Cincinnati recruiting to make in-roads in Northwestern Ohio which is generally Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State territory.
Yes I would. If I'm playing a home and home with a MAC school I'd want it to be as close to an automatic win as possible. I really dont see how one game in one region really helps generate in-roads into a geographical area. I've never really understood that one. Like I said this is a really bad move because UC has nothing to gain IMO and everything to lose.
Kind of like the 1-AA theory. We won't get any respect for beating Toledo but will get killed if we lose. We never get credit for beating Miami when they have a good season. Maybe a game against Kent St. would've been better at least since we're recruiting more in NE Ohio. Hopefully there will be an announcement of us getting a BCS team to come to Nippert (even an Iowa State/Washington St. type of team) because I fear for our season ticket sales next year when people (read: casual fans) see how bad the home schedule is looking.
I agree. Toledo makes no sense out of all the possible non-BCS schools they could have gotten. It does look bad that they couldn't get a 2 for 1 and now have a home and home with 2 MAC schools. That just looks really bad on UC's athletic department IMO.
If UC wins this game nobody cares, it was a MAC school, they should win...also bringing them to UC isn't going to excite the season ticket base or the fan base anymore than a Ball State or Kent State, a C-USA schools or a Sun Belt school would.
And if UC loses, you will never hear the end of it. The media in this state will be all over UC's program for the next decade. It's a very bad move on UC's part.
(01-11-2012 11:37 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2012 11:30 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2012 11:22 AM)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2012 11:19 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-11-2012 11:17 AM)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ]Stupid move by UC. I can understand a home and home with a MAC school considering the situation but why Toledo? That is the worst possible choice they could have made. UC has nothing to gain and everything to lose there. Why not Ball State? Or Eastern Michigan? Or someone like that? A home and home with another in-state MAC school is a bad move.
You'd seriously rather play garbage teams like Ball State or Eastern Michigan than Toledo? At least the Rockets are year-in and year-out one of the better MAC programs. Plus it wouldn't hurt Cincinnati recruiting to make in-roads in Northwestern Ohio which is generally Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State territory.
Yes I would. If I'm playing a home and home with a MAC school I'd want it to be as close to an automatic win as possible. I really dont see how one game in one region really helps generate in-roads into a geographical area. I've never really understood that one. Like I said this is a really bad move because UC has nothing to gain IMO and everything to lose.
Cincinnati played one game in Miami, FL (Orange Bowl) and all of a sudden doors were open to homes of recruits in that area like never before. I agree with everyone on this board that playing MAC schools for less than a 2-for-1 at this point is ridiculous, and to Marcus' point if we have to schedule at MAC school I'd like it to be as easy of a win as possible, especially with it being a roadie next season and the Bearcats very young at key positions.
Florida recruiting is about the current staff, not the Orange Bowl. CBJ had tons of Florida players on his CMU teams.
True Coach Jones and co. recruiting the Florida area hard but the trip down there in 2009 had to have put Cincinnati in the minds of the recruits in the Miami area with the Orange Bowl festivities and the very least.
(01-11-2012 11:41 AM)mlb Wrote: [ -> ]Who is to say that the other MAC schools had room on their schedule for next year? Or didn't have better options (as in, more $$). Toledo being a better school probably has more problems getting teams to play them. They gave Ohio State all they could handle this year.
Just elaborating on your point, how many teams at the FBS level have their 2012 schedules locked in and ready to go for next season? Probably close to all of them. San Diego State and TCU really screwed UC over this time around.