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TCU’s 31-24 comeback victory over Louisiana Tech on Wednesday night was long on entertainment value but conspicuously short on spectators. The announced crowd of 24,607 was the smallest in the Poinsettia Bowl’s seven years and barely half the number of witnesses who attended last year’s San Diego State-Navy tilt. If the Poinsettia’s primary purpose is to fill hotel rooms, as Executive Director Bruce Binkowski acknowledges, matching two teams that travel light could be a recipe for recriminations.

With the Mountain West continuing to hemorrhage its highest-profile programs, most recently TCU, Boise State and San Diego State, the Poinsettia’s contract with that league looks more and more like an albatross.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/...=1#article
Agreed. We need a 3rd tie in with the SBC. But this bowl is not one we need. Too too
Far we would average less than 20k
(12-22-2011 12:51 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed. We need a 3rd tie in with the SBC. But this bowl is not one we need. Too too
Far we would average less than 20k

Ideally we would have 4... the existing two and two of the following: the Texas bowls + the Indy and the bowls based in Memphis/Nashville/Birmingham or a Florida bowl.
Yeah, that bowl would be a disaster to have as a regular tie in. Just too far.

As the Cajuns proved if you can get LOCAL regional teams the venue can be packed and exciting.

I read on the CUSA board that some of them are pissed at the Liberty Bowl, perhaps we could get in there.
Even if we could get the beef o Brady's bowl as a regular tie in would be great.
(12-22-2011 01:15 PM)OwlFamily Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, that bowl would be a disaster to have as a regular tie in. Just too far.

As the Cajuns proved if you can get LOCAL regional teams the venue can be packed and exciting.

I read on the CUSA board that some of them are pissed at the Liberty Bowl, perhaps we could get in there.

If we got two more and the Liberty and Beef O'Brady were the two, that would be a great fit for the conference. Liberty is local for ASU, easily drivable for MTSU, ULM and WKU and drivable for the rest of the conference except the Florida Schools and maybe UNT.

I also like the Independence as it is local for ULM, easily drivable for UL, ASU and UNT. If we got to 5, those are the ones I would want, unless we added the Texas Twins, in which case I'd want to Alamo Bowl instead of the Indy.
Their dumb a.s.s. people..

they should took SDSU would got atlease 15-20,000 more, and sent us to Nola and would been over 50,000 there

But this bowl will follow SDSU to Big East..

It be Big East vs MWC/PAC/WAC
(12-22-2011 01:55 PM)Vobserver Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2011 01:15 PM)OwlFamily Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, that bowl would be a disaster to have as a regular tie in. Just too far.

As the Cajuns proved if you can get LOCAL regional teams the venue can be packed and exciting.

I read on the CUSA board that some of them are pissed at the Liberty Bowl, perhaps we could get in there.

If we got two more and the Liberty and Beef O'Brady were the two, that would be a great fit for the conference. Liberty is local for ASU, easily drivable for MTSU, ULM and WKU and drivable for the rest of the conference except the Florida Schools and maybe UNT.

I also like the Independence as it is local for ULM, easily drivable for UL, ASU and UNT. If we got to 5, those are the ones I would want, unless we added the Texas Twins, in which case I'd want to Alamo Bowl instead of the Indy.

We need to stay away from Western bowls.Fortunately there is an abundance of bowls within the conference footprint. We just need to get the invites.
(12-22-2011 01:04 PM)Vobserver Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2011 12:51 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed. We need a 3rd tie in with the SBC. But this bowl is not one we need. Too too
Far we would average less than 20k

Ideally we would have 4... the existing two and two of the following: the Texas bowls + the Indy and the bowls based in Memphis/Nashville/Birmingham or a Florida bowl.

The SBC has 9 teams right? They do not deserve almost half of the league in bowls with auto tie ins. Sorry but if the MAC a 13 team league is only getting 3. The SBC should not get more than us. If any team deserves one more tie in it's the MAC. We have the least percentage in FBS.

And the MWC with all of the teams moving should go down a few teams. SDSU, Wyoming and TCU have not been up to par with what they were expected to do. BSU and TCU gone will leave that conference begging for 3 tie ins.
(12-22-2011 04:54 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2011 01:04 PM)Vobserver Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2011 12:51 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed. We need a 3rd tie in with the SBC. But this bowl is not one we need. Too too
Far we would average less than 20k

Ideally we would have 4... the existing two and two of the following: the Texas bowls + the Indy and the bowls based in Memphis/Nashville/Birmingham or a Florida bowl.

The SBC has 9 teams right? They do not deserve almost half of the league in bowls with auto tie ins. Sorry but if the MAC a 13 team league is only getting 3. The SBC should not get more than us. If any team deserves one more tie in it's the MAC. We have the least percentage in FBS.

And the MWC with all of the teams moving should go down a few teams. SDSU, Wyoming and TCU have not been up to par with what they were expected to do. BSU and TCU gone will leave that conference begging for 3 tie ins.

SEC has 9 tie ins...for a 12 team league. Why cant we have 4?
(12-22-2011 04:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2011 04:54 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2011 01:04 PM)Vobserver Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2011 12:51 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed. We need a 3rd tie in with the SBC. But this bowl is not one we need. Too too
Far we would average less than 20k

Ideally we would have 4... the existing two and two of the following: the Texas bowls + the Indy and the bowls based in Memphis/Nashville/Birmingham or a Florida bowl.

The SBC has 9 teams right? They do not deserve almost half of the league in bowls with auto tie ins. Sorry but if the MAC a 13 team league is only getting 3. The SBC should not get more than us. If any team deserves one more tie in it's the MAC. We have the least percentage in FBS.

And the MWC with all of the teams moving should go down a few teams. SDSU, Wyoming and TCU have not been up to par with what they were expected to do. BSU and TCU gone will leave that conference begging for 3 tie ins.

SEC has 9 tie ins...for a 12 team league. Why cant we have 4?

A conference on par with the MAC should not get 4, while we still have 3. AND we have 4 more teams than the SBC.

If the MAC finishes 5-0, or 4-1, that 4th tie in will be coming. Our East division was very weak this year and they have done well so far in their bowl games. A lot of MAC fans think the West division had the 3 best teams in the conference.... we shall see.
the Sun Belt and the MAC should have the same number of tie-ins.
(12-22-2011 05:07 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote: [ -> ]the Sun Belt and the MAC should have the same number of tie-ins.

That is a valid arguement. If the SBC got one more, and we didn't get any I would be okay with that.

One tie in opens up: SBC with 3, and MAC with 3.
Two tie ins open up: SBC with 3, and MAC with 4.
When did bowl ties become about merit?
The MAC also has more members than the SBC...
(12-22-2011 05:42 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote: [ -> ]The MAC also has more members than the SBC...

more members does not mean they are better.
(12-22-2011 05:42 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote: [ -> ]The MAC also has more members than the SBC...

That's the point. Why should a conference have more tie ins than an equal conference with many more teams. 3 of 13 vs. 4 of 9 is hardly fair.

Especially after watching FIU vs. Marshall. That would mean FIU should have gotten an auto tie in.... They lost to the worst 6-6 bowl team at home.
(12-22-2011 05:22 PM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]When did bowl ties become about merit?
Just this side of f@cking never. What the Sunbelt needs is for the New Orleans bowl to be SunBelt Champ vs. either an ACC or SEC team.
(12-22-2011 06:08 PM)hawghiggs Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2011 05:22 PM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]When did bowl ties become about merit?
Just this side of f@cking never. What the Sunbelt needs is for the New Orleans bowl to be SunBelt Champ vs. either an ACC or SEC team.

Post of the day. Besides, quantity does not = quality. I don't care how many teams the MAC has. If we have 4 quality teams every year that can be competitive and travel to bowls well there is no reason we shouldn't try and send 4.
(12-22-2011 05:53 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2011 05:42 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote: [ -> ]The MAC also has more members than the SBC...

That's the point. Why should a conference have more tie ins than an equal conference with many more teams. 3 of 13 vs. 4 of 9 is hardly fair.

Especially after watching FIU vs. Marshall. That would mean FIU should have gotten an auto tie in.... They lost to the worst 6-6 bowl team at home.

Like I just said, more teams does not mean better quality. the MAC could have 20 teams, but if 14 of them suck then they do not deserve more bowl tie-ins. the Sun Belt is proving it deserves more bowls, I don't really see the MAC doing the same. the top teams in yalls Conference are solid, but the bottom programs are just aweful.
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