As far as I am concerned, Ron English won 4 games this year and his recruiting classes were ranked dead last. He has gone from 0, 2 and now 4 games. Many of you say he could have won three more games but he also could have easily lost to CMU, WMU and FBS Howard. The team only beat one team over. 500 so I don't think any BCS school is going to take a coach with recruiting classes ranked last and one win over a .500 team. If Coach English were smart, he would spend his free time working on landing a recruiting class that is in the top half of the MAC. If he shops himself too much he will scare away his recruits this year and finish with only 5 wins next year. I am concerned he is brining in too many juco players so that he can win short term, then leave, and have little experience for the next coach. Coach English needs to win at least 7 games to be worthy of a BCS offer. If I were him, I would stay a few more years, build tradition, win the MAC and then have a choice at several BCS jobs. If he bolts for the first opportunity like ASH, he could be fired because 3 years because they wont "Embrace the Process" on winning 0, 2, and 4I games.
Dear luckeyone1,
Your logic is not very good on this one. A win, is a win, is a win. If we are going to use your logic, Northwestern could have lost to Eastern, in English's first year as coach, but they didn't. What sources can you quote that have all of Coach English's classes at the bottom of the MAC? I believe you meant Alabama State, not Howard.
To also give a comparison here... U-M had a 10-2 record. Half of their wins were against teams that were 6-6 or worse, and the three Big Ten teams that had winning records that they played, they lost two of those. So, how good is U-M?
I think you need to get a handle on the fact that progress was made this year with Eastern, and hopefully they will be better next year. I do not think that Coach English will be going anywhere this year, and will stick around for a few more years, to continue to build our program.
So now we're judging wins on style points? You're judging recruiting classes before guys even hit the field? RIDICULOUS!
Ron English is doing a good job and if I WAS HIM, I would do what's best for he and his family. If that means staying at EMU for the next 10 years or 1 year, so be it. Remember, this is only sports and entertainment for us and its his livelihood.
Btw, Eastern beat WMU and CMU because we MADE PLAYS to TAKE the win and they did not. As far as Alabama State, the score was closer than it appeared. Our defense did not give ASU a chance to mount any kind of threat. All 3 were solid, deserving wins.
Lucky is making some valid points, but if you're going to count losses to PSU and the wolverweenies, then you should count wins against FBS teams. In terms of resources, we're far closer to FBS schools than PSU and um.
Let's not give RE too much credit. EMU was .500 in league play this season. That's good compared to where we've been, but not spectacular. In Genyk's last year, he went 2-6, so in three seasons, RE has taken us from 2-6 to 4-4, with a lot of losses in between.
I'm optimistic the team will get better, but I'm also going to make them show me.
Question: How many jobs has RE interviewed for? The only one I see is Illinois. All of the references to ASU or any other job appear to be speculation by the media, bloggers, and fans.
(12-13-2011 09:55 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote: [ -> ]Question: How many jobs has RE interviewed for? The only one I see is Illinois. All of the references to ASU or any other job appear to be speculation by the media, bloggers, and fans.
This was my point on another thread, many times rumors are started by reporters looking to get their names out there. English is not leaving anytime soon unless something major happen. If a coach is contacted by another school that is a good sign and means we have a good coach and one who is winning. If no one is looking at him something is wrong..
Hint: if no one is checking out your wife when you are not around, then she is not attractive. So English is attractive as a football coach. Let's move on unless we get something solid.
Some people are never happy!
Coach has received a lot of suport from EMU to build a program, he preachs Integrity and I believe he stands behind it 200% He's not going anywhere until his vision of the program is complete or his contract is up. It's all good.
(12-13-2011 05:29 PM)Eagles2008 Wrote: [ -> ]Coach has received a lot of suport from EMU to build a program, he preachs Integrity and I believe he stands behind it 200% He's not going anywhere until his vision of the program is complete or his contract is up. It's all good.
I like hearing that.
My point is this: a win is a win is a win you say? Not so fast my friends. Taking away the two FBS wins and we finished 4-6. If a win is a win, then why does the NCAA basketball committee look at strength of schedule for at large bids? Also if a win is a win then why are we not bowling? Listen I truly love the direction Ron English is taking this program but he must be very careful shopping himself around too much. Recruits are more prone to go where there is coaching stability. My point is Ron could hurt this years recruiting class by potential recruits perceiving EMU as unstable due to Ron shopping himself. Just think what situation he would be in next year if Alex Gillett got hurt? This would mean a lower number of wins and also might mean he is sticking around at EMU for awhile. So Ron might want to do what Temple's coach did and pull his name from consideration of BCS jobs. He is at least one proven season away and in my mind needs to finish greater than. 500 over D1A competition. If he manages just 5think wins at least he could bring in a stellar recruiting class........hopefully he does not scare them away shopping himself around. Let's move on because he is here for next season
(12-14-2011 02:39 PM)luckeyone1 Wrote: [ -> ]My point is this: a win is a win is a win you say? Not so fast my friends. Taking away the two FBS wins and we finished 4-6. If a win is a win, then why does the NCAA basketball committee look at strength of schedule for at large bids? Also if a win is a win then why are we not bowling?
I feel what you are saying but I am a little lost in what else you want English to do? I know that he won 2 games against FBS colleges but I think he would had lost those games last year and we are headed in the right direction as a team. If you remember at the start of the year people here were saying we would win 4 games total. We won 6 games, this is something to be happy about.
Listen I truly love the direction Ron English is taking this program but he must be very careful shopping himself around too much.
He is not shopping himself around, colleges are coming to him. What would happened if someone called you about a new job? I know I would always look at my options and explore the opportunity.
Recruits are more prone to go where there is coaching stability. My point is Ron could hurt this years recruiting class by potential recruits perceiving EMU as unstable due to Ron shopping himself.
I disagree, because recruits know that there is always a chances that a Head coach could leave and go somewhere else. This is why each Head coach assigns recruits a coach with a backup coach. English is not always the one who is doing the recruiting, other coaches on his staff are recruiting. What happens if a position coach leaves? I would think a kid would be more likely to move on to another school.
Just think what situation he would be in next year if Alex Gillett got hurt?
This mean someone else needs to step-up. We do need a backup qb who could lead the team.
This would mean a lower number of wins and also might mean he is sticking around at EMU for awhile. So Ron might want to do what Temple's coach did and pull his name from consideration of BCS jobs. He is at least one proven season away and in my mind needs to finish greater than. 500 over D1A competition. If he manages just 5think wins at least he could bring in a stellar recruiting class........hopefully he does not scare them away shopping himself around. Let's move on because he is here for next season
As I said before, English will be here for at least 2 more years. Maybe we should give him a extension. I also agree that we need to move on geting recruits into the fold.
I just wish this thread would dry up on the vine.