(11-21-2011 09:51 PM)SF Husky Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 09:48 PM)Lurker Above Wrote: [ -> ]For what its worth...
http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1297158
Nice, Texas is demanding scheduling based on its requirements. Somethings just don't change.
Yeah, those Longhorns are something else. There just is not another breed that rivals their arrogance. No one has looked worse than Texas during this whole realignment process.
Thanksgiving is for rivals not patsies, and rivals will always insist on return games. What are they thinking? I would be real surprised if Baylor or TCU would cut their own nuts off and agree to play UT at their place with out a return trip.
But I thought the Meatball Marinara Army wasn't going to allow WVU to leave? LOL at the wannabe lawyers in this forum. Smell ya later.
could wvu just leave before a court decision is made(or if they arent forced by thecourt to remain)? Meaning could they just play a b12 schedule next year and then worry about any lawsuits after the fact?
(11-21-2011 10:11 PM)gosports1 Wrote: [ -> ]could wvu just leave before a court decision is made(or if they arent forced by thecourt to remain)? Meaning could they just play a b12 schedule next year and then worry about any lawsuits after the fact?
Yeah. The ordinary remedy for breach of contract is damages.
The BE could try to get a temporary injunction to prevent this but I don't know how likely they are to be successful with that. My guess is not very but that's just speculation.
(11-21-2011 10:30 PM)ndlutz Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 10:11 PM)gosports1 Wrote: [ -> ]could wvu just leave before a court decision is made(or if they arent forced by thecourt to remain)? Meaning could they just play a b12 schedule next year and then worry about any lawsuits after the fact?
Yeah. The ordinary remedy for breach of contract is damages.
The BE could try to get a temporary injunction to prevent this but I don't know how likely they are to be successful with that. My guess is not very but that's just speculation.
Oh I think they would be very successful. What makes W Virginia believe that the contract they signed is no longer enforceable?
Oh I think they would be very successful. What makes W Virginia believe that the contract they signed is no longer enforceable?
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Circuit court in Morgantown, WV. The only small chance of an injunction could come from RI court, but if WV court just finds damages, how do imagine BE and the RI court would enforce it..........National Guard.
(11-21-2011 10:43 PM)attackfrog Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 10:30 PM)ndlutz Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 10:11 PM)gosports1 Wrote: [ -> ]could wvu just leave before a court decision is made(or if they arent forced by thecourt to remain)? Meaning could they just play a b12 schedule next year and then worry about any lawsuits after the fact?
Yeah. The ordinary remedy for breach of contract is damages.
The BE could try to get a temporary injunction to prevent this but I don't know how likely they are to be successful with that. My guess is not very but that's just speculation.
Oh I think they would be very successful. What makes W Virginia believe that the contract they signed is no longer enforceable?
The contract is absolutely enforceable, but that doesn't mean WVU would be forced to stay. Short of the Big East actually dissolving as a result of WVU leaving (in which case money damages wouldn't suffice in making the conference whole), it's going to be almost impossible for the Big East to win an injunction. Ultimately, this is going to be about how much WVU is going to have to pay for a buyout.
I deal with terminated contracts all of the time and in the vast majority of cases, when I see a long notice period in the terms, what it really means is "buyout amount". Courts don't like forcing parties that want to split to stick together as long as enough money is paid out.
(11-21-2011 10:02 PM)Lurker Above Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 09:51 PM)SF Husky Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 09:48 PM)Lurker Above Wrote: [ -> ]For what its worth...
http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1297158
Nice, Texas is demanding scheduling based on its requirements. Somethings just don't change.
Yeah, those Longhorns are something else. There just is not another breed that rivals their arrogance. No one has looked worse than Texas during this whole realignment process.
Thanksgiving is for rivals not patsies, and rivals will always insist on return games. What are they thinking? I would be real surprised if Baylor or TCU would cut their own nuts off and agree to play UT at their place with out a return trip.
I'm confused. Chip Brown told us before that UT was going to play Notre Dame on Thanksgiving Day every year. So why is he now talking about Baylor and TCU?
Quote:Initially, a source close to the situation said Texas would face Texas Tech on Thanksgiving in 2012. But Texas is pushing for the right to play all of its future Thanksgiving Day games at home in Austin and rotate opponents, rather than lock into a home-and-home with one school....... it appears momentum is moving toward allowing Texas to always host the Thanksgiving Day game beginning next year, when its current Thanksgiving Day rival - Texas A&M - moves on to the SEC, sources said.
TCU and Baylor would be among the candidates if Texas gets the right to host the Thanksgiving Day game in 2012, sources said.
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This is what W. Va has to look forward to. Texas always getting what Texas wants. W. Va will be just another of the conference school in the back round with the rest of the 8 dwarfs. Oklahoma is the only other school in the conference with some clout.
(11-21-2011 11:02 PM)RUfan03 Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Initially, a source close to the situation said Texas would face Texas Tech on Thanksgiving in 2012. But Texas is pushing for the right to play all of its future Thanksgiving Day games at home in Austin and rotate opponents, rather than lock into a home-and-home with one school....... it appears momentum is moving toward allowing Texas to always host the Thanksgiving Day game beginning next year, when its current Thanksgiving Day rival - Texas A&M - moves on to the SEC, sources said.
TCU and Baylor would be among the candidates if Texas gets the right to host the Thanksgiving Day game in 2012, sources said.
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This is what W. Va has to look forward to. Texas always getting what Texas wants. W. Va will be just another of the conference school in the back round with the rest of the 8 dwarfs. Oklahoma is the only other school in the conference with some clout.
I think we'd hesitate about a Thankgiving home game. But as an away team every few years... That's great exposure.
(11-21-2011 10:52 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 10:43 PM)attackfrog Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 10:30 PM)ndlutz Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 10:11 PM)gosports1 Wrote: [ -> ]could wvu just leave before a court decision is made(or if they arent forced by thecourt to remain)? Meaning could they just play a b12 schedule next year and then worry about any lawsuits after the fact?
Yeah. The ordinary remedy for breach of contract is damages.
The BE could try to get a temporary injunction to prevent this but I don't know how likely they are to be successful with that. My guess is not very but that's just speculation.
Oh I think they would be very successful. What makes W Virginia believe that the contract they signed is no longer enforceable?
The contract is absolutely enforceable, but that doesn't mean WVU would be forced to stay. Short of the Big East actually dissolving as a result of WVU leaving (in which case money damages wouldn't suffice in making the conference whole), it's going to be almost impossible for the Big East to win an injunction. Ultimately, this is going to be about how much WVU is going to have to pay for a buyout.
I deal with terminated contracts all of the time and in the vast majority of cases, when I see a long notice period in the terms, what it really means is "buyout amount". Courts don't like forcing parties that want to split to stick together as long as enough money is paid out.
Exactly WVU is probably going to have to pay a lot more in exit fees and the Big 12 will probably have to help us fill our schedules.
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(11-21-2011 10:52 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 10:43 PM)attackfrog Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 10:30 PM)ndlutz Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 10:11 PM)gosports1 Wrote: [ -> ]could wvu just leave before a court decision is made(or if they arent forced by thecourt to remain)? Meaning could they just play a b12 schedule next year and then worry about any lawsuits after the fact?
Yeah. The ordinary remedy for breach of contract is damages.
The BE could try to get a temporary injunction to prevent this but I don't know how likely they are to be successful with that. My guess is not very but that's just speculation.
Oh I think they would be very successful. What makes W Virginia believe that the contract they signed is no longer enforceable?
The contract is absolutely enforceable, but that doesn't mean WVU would be forced to stay. Short of the Big East actually dissolving as a result of WVU leaving (in which case money damages wouldn't suffice in making the conference whole), it's going to be almost impossible for the Big East to win an injunction. Ultimately, this is going to be about how much WVU is going to have to pay for a buyout.
I deal with terminated contracts all of the time and in the vast majority of cases, when I see a long notice period in the terms, what it really means is "buyout amount". Courts don't like forcing parties that want to split to stick together as long as enough money is paid out.
yeah its not like us marshalls will be dispatched preventing wvu from applying big 12 logos on their fields and forcing their athletes to travel to big east games.
wvu will go in 2012, it just needs to be determined at what price
No Rhode Island State court is gonna stop WVU from leaving for the Big XII. Forget it. Texas still deciding what's best for itself and everyone else. I am so glad this is in the rearview mirror for the Aggies and Mizzou.
Why don't the Big East use money they will get from West Virginia and pay Boise exit fee from MWC?
Boise go for it...and I'm sure they even have some left over..
some teams are going to be needing teams to play, and with out court keeping West Virginia to stay...
This is some crazy ****...
(11-21-2011 10:52 PM)Rockman Wrote: [ -> ]Oh I think they would be very successful. What makes W Virginia believe that the contract they signed is no longer enforceable?
Circuit court in Morgantown, WV. The only small chance of an injunction could come from RI court, but if WV court just finds damages, how do imagine BE and the RI court would enforce it..........National Guard.
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haha---yeah, good point.
(11-21-2011 11:52 PM)solohawks Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 10:52 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 10:43 PM)attackfrog Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 10:30 PM)ndlutz Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 10:11 PM)gosports1 Wrote: [ -> ]could wvu just leave before a court decision is made(or if they arent forced by thecourt to remain)? Meaning could they just play a b12 schedule next year and then worry about any lawsuits after the fact?
Yeah. The ordinary remedy for breach of contract is damages.
The BE could try to get a temporary injunction to prevent this but I don't know how likely they are to be successful with that. My guess is not very but that's just speculation.
Oh I think they would be very successful. What makes W Virginia believe that the contract they signed is no longer enforceable?
The contract is absolutely enforceable, but that doesn't mean WVU would be forced to stay. Short of the Big East actually dissolving as a result of WVU leaving (in which case money damages wouldn't suffice in making the conference whole), it's going to be almost impossible for the Big East to win an injunction. Ultimately, this is going to be about how much WVU is going to have to pay for a buyout.
I deal with terminated contracts all of the time and in the vast majority of cases, when I see a long notice period in the terms, what it really means is "buyout amount". Courts don't like forcing parties that want to split to stick together as long as enough money is paid out.
yeah its not like us marshalls will be dispatched preventing wvu from applying big 12 logos on their fields and forcing their athletes to travel to big east games.
wvu will go in 2012, it just needs to be determined at what price
The Boise exit fee for 2012 has been quoted as high as 21 million. If the Big East paid the Moutain West exit fee in order to have Boise available for 2012 to replace W Virginia, would W Virginia be on the hook for the 21 million+normal exit fee costs?
I doubt the Big East will be able to get much money from WVU for leaving early. Provided Pitt and Syracuse stay for 2012, the conference will still have seven members for football, which is enough to play a conference schedule and satisfies NCAA rules provided Big East membership returns to eight or above by 2014. The only damages the Big East will be able to prove will be (a) the costs incurred by the seven remaining football members to each line up a sixth out-of-conference game on short notice, and (b) any reduction in conference TV revenue, which may or may not materialize depending on what ESPN wants to do.
Regarding scheduling, it's not as big a deal as the Big East is making it out to be, since the WAC is in the same boat and has several members (Idaho, New Mexico State, UTSA) still looking for 2012 games. Hawaii also has a 2012 opening to fill.
(11-22-2011 12:56 AM)attackfrog Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 11:52 PM)solohawks Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 10:52 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 10:43 PM)attackfrog Wrote: [ -> ] (11-21-2011 10:30 PM)ndlutz Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah. The ordinary remedy for breach of contract is damages.
The BE could try to get a temporary injunction to prevent this but I don't know how likely they are to be successful with that. My guess is not very but that's just speculation.
Oh I think they would be very successful. What makes W Virginia believe that the contract they signed is no longer enforceable?
The contract is absolutely enforceable, but that doesn't mean WVU would be forced to stay. Short of the Big East actually dissolving as a result of WVU leaving (in which case money damages wouldn't suffice in making the conference whole), it's going to be almost impossible for the Big East to win an injunction. Ultimately, this is going to be about how much WVU is going to have to pay for a buyout.
I deal with terminated contracts all of the time and in the vast majority of cases, when I see a long notice period in the terms, what it really means is "buyout amount". Courts don't like forcing parties that want to split to stick together as long as enough money is paid out.
yeah its not like us marshalls will be dispatched preventing wvu from applying big 12 logos on their fields and forcing their athletes to travel to big east games.
wvu will go in 2012, it just needs to be determined at what price
The Boise exit fee for 2012 has been quoted as high as 21 million. If the Big East paid the Moutain West exit fee in order to have Boise available for 2012 to replace W Virginia, would W Virginia be on the hook for the 21 million+normal exit fee costs?
that was if Boise made a BCS game...