Are you in favor of the BCS instead of a playoff? I know some MAC coaches are, and if one proposal happens they will surely need to rethink their stance. One proposal the BCS is considering is to only have a National Championship game between a so-called #1 vs #2 and all other bowls will be free to negotiate contracts with conferences. For conferences like the MAC, this would virtually take away any chance at big money and a BCS bowl game. No MAC school would have a tough enough SOS to get into the National Championship game, and all of the better bowls will sign with conferences like the Big Ten, SEC, Pac-12, ACC, and Big 12.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...ources-say
(11-18-2011 02:18 PM)BrianNowicki Wrote: [ -> ]Are you in favor of the BCS instead of a playoff? I know some MAC coaches are, and if one proposal happens they will surely need to rethink their stance. One proposal the BCS is considering is to only have a National Championship game between a so-called #1 vs #2 and all other bowls will be free to negotiate contracts with conferences. For conferences like the MAC, this would virtually take away any chance at big money and a BCS bowl game. No MAC school would have a tough enough SOS to get into the National Championship game, and all of the better bowls will sign with conferences like the Big Ten, SEC, Pac-12, ACC, and Big 12.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...ources-say
I read that article and completely agree with you.
I still say the 'solution' to the BCS mess is to allocate ONE bid every year to a team from the non-AQ conferences.
That would make WMC/WAC/C-USA/MAC/SBC 'partners' and not 'adversaries' of the 'big boys'.
I don't think the big conferences want to 'freeze out' what we now call the non-AQ conferences.
In lieu of a traditional playoff system involving all 11 conference champions it would be best to keep the BCS system as-is except for allowing the BCS to put the BCS Championship up for bids to venues outside the Rose, Fiesta, Sugar, and Orange Bowls. That would allow the traditional bowls to invite two additional teams such as the Sugar Bowl this year which is scheduled to host the BCS Championship game. That would mean two additional chances for non-AQ teams to get into a BCS Bowl. That would also make it easier every year for the BCS "to allocate ONE bid every year to a team from the non-AQ conferences."
I hate the BCS. I prefer a 16-team playoff, w/ every conference eligible to earn an automatic playoff spot. No AQ anywhere! You have to win to get in. But the rules are set ahead of time:
.750 (or better) win ratio
At least one OOC win against FBS (obviously a misnomer at this point)
And if 8-4 beats 11-1 in a conference championship game, conference can nominate loser for automatic bid.
After all automatic bids are in place (and remember this is no more than 11, may be less) then selection committee chooses remaining teams based on record. Ties for the final slot(s) will be decided by BCS-type ranking system.
I agree with John Wooden, let everyone in. Last one standing wins. Damn, I miss four-ball dodgeball!
(11-18-2011 02:18 PM)BrianNowicki Wrote: [ -> ]Are you in favor of the BCS instead of a playoff? I know some MAC coaches are, and if one proposal happens they will surely need to rethink their stance. One proposal the BCS is considering is to only have a National Championship game between a so-called #1 vs #2 and all other bowls will be free to negotiate contracts with conferences. For conferences like the MAC, this would virtually take away any chance at big money and a BCS bowl game. No MAC school would have a tough enough SOS to get into the National Championship game, and all of the better bowls will sign with conferences like the Big Ten, SEC, Pac-12, ACC, and Big 12.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...ources-say
Does this sound like what was talked about as the "+1"?
BCS bowl games which presumably are pre-arranged and then the two highest rated teams go to the NC game.
As others have said, this would COMPLETELY exclude a Utah, Boise, TCU, etc. (or even a Houston).
This arrangement would be one good reason for schools top non-AQ schools to have jumped to the Pac10/12, etc.
HOWEVER it could fail.
As the big boys get into a food fight for the bowls...
Will the B1G be satisfied with but one bowl? Nope.
Will the SEC be satisified...
Will the...
Who gets screwed?
(11-18-2011 02:52 PM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ]I hate the BCS. I prefer a 16-team playoff, w/ every conference eligible to earn an automatic playoff spot. No AQ anywhere! You have to win to get in. But the rules are set ahead of time:
.750 (or better) win ratio
At least one OOC win against FBS (obviously a misnomer at this point)
And if 8-4 beats 11-1 in a conference championship game, conference can nominate loser for automatic bid.
After all automatic bids are in place (and remember this is no more than 11, may be less) then selection committee chooses remaining teams based on record. Ties for the final slot(s) will be decided by BCS-type ranking system.
I agree with this approach also. I would also require that any autobid conferences must have a minimum of 12 teams. This will keep conferences from splitting/reducing in size for better team odds. Also, I don't really have a problem with the championship game determining auto bid in your above scenario. It really makes the championship game the first round of the single elimination tournament. The 11-1 team could still get an automatic bid based on record. How soon do you think it would take Notre Dame to join the Big 10 after this system would be implemented?
(11-18-2011 05:06 PM)bobcat95 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2011 02:52 PM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ]I hate the BCS. I prefer a 16-team playoff, w/ every conference eligible to earn an automatic playoff spot. No AQ anywhere! You have to win to get in. But the rules are set ahead of time:
.750 (or better) win ratio
At least one OOC win against FBS (obviously a misnomer at this point)
And if 8-4 beats 11-1 in a conference championship game, conference can nominate loser for automatic bid.
After all automatic bids are in place (and remember this is no more than 11, may be less) then selection committee chooses remaining teams based on record. Ties for the final slot(s) will be decided by BCS-type ranking system.
I agree with this approach also. I would also require that any autobid conferences must have a minimum of 12 teams. This will keep conferences from splitting/reducing in size for better team odds. Also, I don't really have a problem with the championship game determining auto bid in your above scenario. It really makes the championship game the first round of the single elimination tournament. The 11-1 team could still get an automatic bid based on record. How soon do you think it would take Notre Dame to join the Big 10 after this system would be implemented?
Likely never. ND will join other conferences first, namely the ACC, before they join the Big-10.
(11-18-2011 05:17 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2011 05:06 PM)bobcat95 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2011 02:52 PM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ]I hate the BCS. I prefer a 16-team playoff, w/ every conference eligible to earn an automatic playoff spot. No AQ anywhere! You have to win to get in. But the rules are set ahead of time:
.750 (or better) win ratio
At least one OOC win against FBS (obviously a misnomer at this point)
And if 8-4 beats 11-1 in a conference championship game, conference can nominate loser for automatic bid.
After all automatic bids are in place (and remember this is no more than 11, may be less) then selection committee chooses remaining teams based on record. Ties for the final slot(s) will be decided by BCS-type ranking system.
I agree with this approach also. I would also require that any autobid conferences must have a minimum of 12 teams. This will keep conferences from splitting/reducing in size for better team odds. Also, I don't really have a problem with the championship game determining auto bid in your above scenario. It really makes the championship game the first round of the single elimination tournament. The 11-1 team could still get an automatic bid based on record. How soon do you think it would take Notre Dame to join the Big 10 after this system would be implemented?
Likely never. ND will join other conferences first, namely the ACC, before they join the Big-10.
ACC is a much better fit competitively for the Irish, IMO.
Geography is becoming better in the ACC for Notre Dame. Pittsburgh is now in the conference one of their bigger rivals in the Big East.
They also have Georgia Tech, Miami, and UNC which are important for the Irish apparently.