I heard on Chicago radio (The Score 670.com) where someone (AD or U. President) from NIU commented on discussions that have already taken place and that are scheduled to take place in the near future about what direction the MAC will go in regards with this issue. Did anyone else hear this? It was during the NIU v BGSU pre-game.
And there was no tipping of the hand, but it did sound like the discussion is still on the table of whether to do it or not. With the impact of the gender equality issue being the main component that needs to be investigated.
The big "reveal" of the conversation was that it appears that some conferences have already decided to move forward with the additional $2K in the scholarship and that those offers may be extended as soon as the upcoming early-signing period. If this is true, MAC teams shouldn't count their recruits before they hatch. If the MAC decides against the $2K, then any school that belongs to a conference that has voted in favor of extending the funds to the student-athletes can basically steal a kid by offering them the $2K scholarship.
The BCS schools have to be in, but has anyone heard what direction any of the other non-AQ conferences are leaning?
Or has anyone here heard anything coming from any of the other MAC schools?
(11-09-2011 03:07 PM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote: [ -> ]I heard on Chicago radio (The Score 670.com) where someone (AD or U. President) from NIU commented on discussions that have already taken place and that are scheduled to take place in the near future about what direction the MAC will go in regards with this issue. Did anyone else hear this? It was during the NIU v BGSU pre-game.
And there was no tipping of the hand, but it did sound like the discussion is still on the table of whether to do it or not. With the impact of the gender equality issue being the main component that needs to be investigated.
The big "reveal" of the conversation was that it appears that some conferences have already decided to move forward with the additional $2K in the scholarship and that those offers may be extended as soon as the upcoming early-signing period. If this is true, MAC teams shouldn't count their recruits before they hatch. If the MAC decides against the $2K, then any school that belongs to a conference that has voted in favor of extending the funds to the student-athletes can basically steal a kid by offering them the $2K scholarship.
The BCS schools have to be in, but has anyone heard what direction any of the other non-AQ conferences are leaning?
Or has anyone here heard anything coming from any of the other MAC schools?
The Sun Belt came out saying they could offer each player as much or as little as they saw fit. So $2k for starting QB and $2 for backup kicker (example they gave).
(11-09-2011 03:10 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote: [ -> ] (11-09-2011 03:07 PM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote: [ -> ]I heard on Chicago radio (The Score 670.com) where someone (AD or U. President) from NIU commented on discussions that have already taken place and that are scheduled to take place in the near future about what direction the MAC will go in regards with this issue. Did anyone else hear this? It was during the NIU v BGSU pre-game.
And there was no tipping of the hand, but it did sound like the discussion is still on the table of whether to do it or not. With the impact of the gender equality issue being the main component that needs to be investigated.
The big "reveal" of the conversation was that it appears that some conferences have already decided to move forward with the additional $2K in the scholarship and that those offers may be extended as soon as the upcoming early-signing period. If this is true, MAC teams shouldn't count their recruits before they hatch. If the MAC decides against the $2K, then any school that belongs to a conference that has voted in favor of extending the funds to the student-athletes can basically steal a kid by offering them the $2K scholarship.
The BCS schools have to be in, but has anyone heard what direction any of the other non-AQ conferences are leaning?
Or has anyone here heard anything coming from any of the other MAC schools?
The Sun Belt came out saying they could offer each player as much or as little as they saw fit. So $2k for starting QB and $2 for backup kicker (example they gave).
Could they do that? I thought it was an all-or-nothing type of thing.
(11-09-2011 03:12 PM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote: [ -> ] (11-09-2011 03:10 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote: [ -> ] (11-09-2011 03:07 PM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote: [ -> ]I heard on Chicago radio (The Score 670.com) where someone (AD or U. President) from NIU commented on discussions that have already taken place and that are scheduled to take place in the near future about what direction the MAC will go in regards with this issue. Did anyone else hear this? It was during the NIU v BGSU pre-game.
And there was no tipping of the hand, but it did sound like the discussion is still on the table of whether to do it or not. With the impact of the gender equality issue being the main component that needs to be investigated.
The big "reveal" of the conversation was that it appears that some conferences have already decided to move forward with the additional $2K in the scholarship and that those offers may be extended as soon as the upcoming early-signing period. If this is true, MAC teams shouldn't count their recruits before they hatch. If the MAC decides against the $2K, then any school that belongs to a conference that has voted in favor of extending the funds to the student-athletes can basically steal a kid by offering them the $2K scholarship.
The BCS schools have to be in, but has anyone heard what direction any of the other non-AQ conferences are leaning?
Or has anyone here heard anything coming from any of the other MAC schools?
The Sun Belt came out saying they could offer each player as much or as little as they saw fit. So $2k for starting QB and $2 for backup kicker (example they gave).
Could they do that? I thought it was an all-or-nothing type of thing.
That would be ideal. We would have the option to keep up with the BCS schools, but can back off and save a few bucks now and then...
The MAAC approved the measure in the past week. Given that that league are all private schools without incredible resources (compared to the Ivy's or PL, for example) I see no reason why the MAC will not as well.
Kids these days. When I was an athlete, I worked for my spending money. Better to loosen the rules on how scholarship athletes can do part-time work then to give them cash.
The A10 has approved $2000 for men's and women's basketball and up to the institutions for other sports.
A10 approves 2k stipend
Quote:The primary topic of discussion was the most recent wave of conference realignment. The group unanimously agreed to remain proactive in solidifying its commitment to its members as the best basketball only conference in Division I. The Council approved a conference-wide policy to fund the total cost of attendance for men's and women `s basketball grant-in aids while confirming that each member institution can approve similar funding for all other sports programs within their department. This decision resulted from the NCAA recently passed legislation permitting cost of attendance additions to traditional grant-in-aid scholarship offers up to $2,000.
(11-09-2011 09:48 PM)Steve1981 Wrote: [ -> ]The A10 has approved $2000 for men's and women's basketball and up to the institutions for other sports.
A10 approves 2k stipend
Quote:The primary topic of discussion was the most recent wave of conference realignment. The group unanimously agreed to remain proactive in solidifying its commitment to its members as the best basketball only conference in Division I. The Council approved a conference-wide policy to fund the total cost of attendance for men's and women `s basketball grant-in aids while confirming that each member institution can approve similar funding for all other sports programs within their department. This decision resulted from the NCAA recently passed legislation permitting cost of attendance additions to traditional grant-in-aid scholarship offers up to $2,000.
That's cool, it looks like this thing is more flexible than I thought.
So conferences can chose which sports receive the stipend and, as another poster here wrote, the amount of the stipend can be less than the max allowed of $2K.
That better frames the context of what I heard. There was a reference to 85 scholarships and the gender equality rule. So, that makes it sound like the MAC may be ready to approve the stipend for football and has to figure out what it has to do on the women's sports side to be compliant.
Now I'm worried that they're only going to approve 85 (men's) scholarships, which may leave MAC basketball at a disadvantage.
I wish they announce their decision soon.
(11-09-2011 10:22 PM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote: [ -> ] (11-09-2011 09:48 PM)Steve1981 Wrote: [ -> ]The A10 has approved $2000 for men's and women's basketball and up to the institutions for other sports.
A10 approves 2k stipend
Quote:The primary topic of discussion was the most recent wave of conference realignment. The group unanimously agreed to remain proactive in solidifying its commitment to its members as the best basketball only conference in Division I. The Council approved a conference-wide policy to fund the total cost of attendance for men's and women `s basketball grant-in aids while confirming that each member institution can approve similar funding for all other sports programs within their department. This decision resulted from the NCAA recently passed legislation permitting cost of attendance additions to traditional grant-in-aid scholarship offers up to $2,000.
That's cool, it looks like this thing is more flexible than I thought.
So conferences can chose which sports receive the stipend and, as another poster here wrote, the amount of the stipend can be less than the max allowed of $2K.
That better frames the context of what I heard. There was a reference to 85 scholarships and the gender equality rule. So, that makes it sound like the MAC may be ready to approve the stipend for football and has to figure out what it has to do on the women's sports side to be compliant.
Now I'm worried that they're only going to approve 85 (men's) scholarships, which may leave MAC basketball at a disadvantage.
I wish they announce their decision soon.
I wish they would just announce that the conference approves of the maximum possible and then leave it up the the individual school to decide how much they want to spend and how to be compliant.
I don't get how schools are going to be able to decide who gets this and who doesn't. Why should a backup kicker on the football team get $2k and the national champion at 285 lbs on the wrestling team gets nothing? And don't say it's a revenue issue because NONE of the MAC programs make money, they just lose less than others. And even if nobody cares about the track team, why should the women's field hockey team get the money just because of Title IX?
This entire thing is bad idea that's just going to create loopholes for cheating, create a huge liability both legally and financially for the schools, and with the MAC, most likely the money will be coming from an increase in student fees. Talk about a kick in the nuts. All students paying their own way now have to pony up more cash so the already privileged athletes on full rides can have some extra cash to spend at the bar?
I'm with whoever said just loosen the restrictions on athletes regarding jobs. If someone wants some spending money then they can get a job and earn it. This is an absolute kick in the nuts to the millions of kids on college campuses that aren't scholarship athletes.