yet JoPa will continued to be seen as a college football saint
just another example of the dangers of the closet. the more one represses their true self the more distorted they become. sandusky had a foundation that worked w kids who knows how many other boys were molested...
Penn St runs a "clean" program. You know if this happened at a Miami or Bama there would be all kins of condesending ***. Not good what happened there. no NOT good.
i'm sure the ncaa will take away more of boise state's scholarships as a result. can't have a player sleeping on someone's floor without paying rent, especially when there's major crimes that need to be covered up in the big10
(11-05-2011 07:40 PM)pono Wrote: [ -> ]yet JoPa will continued to be seen as a college football saint
I have a hunch this will be his last season as head coach. (Maybe it would have been, anyway. But I think it WILL be, now).
(11-05-2011 08:36 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ] (11-05-2011 07:40 PM)pono Wrote: [ -> ]yet JoPa will continued to be seen as a college football saint
I have a hunch this will be his last season as head coach. (Maybe it would have been, anyway. But I think it WILL be, now).
if that turns out to be the case, the Penn State football game in the post-Paterno era will be against...OHIO! :)
Penn State has been covering up **** like this for years. We always laugh at their reputation as 'squeaky clean'. Hardly.
(11-06-2011 12:28 AM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ]Penn State has been covering up **** like this for years. We always laugh at their reputation as 'squeaky clean'. Hardly.
Definitely not the only issue.
(11-05-2011 07:48 PM)NIU05 Wrote: [ -> ]Penn St runs a "clean" program. You know if this happened at a Miami or Bama there would be all kins of condesending ***. Not good what happened there. no NOT good.
Perception will never match reality on this one. PSU constantly has players in trouble with the law and there is never a shortage of excuses like that when things go wrong. When Sports Illustrated ran an article about kids with arrests Penn State was #5, but excuses were made. Fights, melees, sexual assaults, drugs, terroristic threats, shooting arrows into dorm rooms, DUIs, rapes, thefts, you name it they had them. When Lavon Chisley killed somebody by stabbing them 93 times we heard how technically he was no longer on the team. They have picked and chosen their way along on the crimes too, keeping kids on the 2-deep with serious charges while banishing kids buried deep on the depth chart with far less serious crimes. They are no better than the Miami's or Alabama's, they are right there with them...actually in front of them and all but 4 other schools (Pitt, Iowa, Arkansas and Boise State). HEck even their mascots are a bunch of losers, replacing one after the next when they get arrested as well.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/71624...pas-career
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/wr...index.html
http://onwardstate.com/2011/03/03/penn-s...ith-honor/
http://pahomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=17593
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/201...forme.aspx
http://mikegh.wordpress.com/2008/07/27/p...l-arrests/
http://thenittanyline.blogspot.com/2007/...urder.html
http://www.aolnews.com/2010/09/01/penn-s...rrested-m/
(11-05-2011 07:40 PM)pono Wrote: [ -> ]yet JoPa will continued to be seen as a college football saint
I believe Joepa followed his chain of command, much like the witness that came to him. He reported it up and allowed the investigation to run it's course. Joepa was not the witness, the accussor or accussed, just one step in the latter of reporting it up to your supervisor. The GA saw it, reported it to his boss Joepa who reported it to Curley and Schultz, Joe is done at that point unless during the course of the investigation they need to get follow-up from him on what was reported.
Joepa also called Uncle Chester in his office a few years earlier when he heard stories about him but nothing to substantiate it and told him he was done, never going to get his job as head coach and not going to be allowed to stay on board anymore that he needs to step aside and retire. That the morons running that school allowed him to keep an office and/or keys to the facilities and have free reign of them even a few years later was just plain assinine, but again I don't believe that was Joepa's fault.
(11-06-2011 11:35 AM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2011 11:20 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote: [ -> ]And in a disgusting bit of irony:
![[Image: touched-jerry-sandusky-story-hardcover-cover-art.jpg]](http://i43.tower.com/images/mm100480005/touched-jerry-sandusky-story-hardcover-cover-art.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-Sand...1582613575
Disgusting...or HILARIOUS! 
Nothing funny there at all, it's not Photoshopped, it's the real book he sold and when talking about sexual assault on a minor(s) I find no humor.
(11-06-2011 11:41 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2011 11:35 AM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2011 11:20 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote: [ -> ]And in a disgusting bit of irony:
http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-Sand...1582613575
Disgusting...or HILARIOUS!
Nothing funny there at all, it's not Photoshopped, it's the real book he sold and when talking about sexual assault on a minor(s) I find no humor.
I'm sorry.
Disgusting AND Hilarious.
(11-06-2011 11:45 AM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2011 11:41 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2011 11:35 AM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote: [ -> ] (11-06-2011 11:20 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote: [ -> ]And in a disgusting bit of irony:
http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-Sand...1582613575
Disgusting...or HILARIOUS!
Nothing funny there at all, it's not Photoshopped, it's the real book he sold and when talking about sexual assault on a minor(s) I find no humor.
I'm sorry.
Disgusting AND Hilarious.
BREAKING NEWS: AP Reporting Penn State board says Curley, Schultz stepping down after allegations of sex abuse scandal, cover-up.
(11-06-2011 11:40 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote: [ -> ] (11-05-2011 07:40 PM)pono Wrote: [ -> ]yet JoPa will continued to be seen as a college football saint
I believe Joepa followed his chain of command, much like the witness that came to him. He reported it up and allowed the investigation to run it's course. Joepa was not the witness, the accussor or accussed, just one step in the latter of reporting it up to your supervisor. The GA saw it, reported it to his boss Joepa who reported it to Curley and Schultz, Joe is done at that point unless during the course of the investigation they need to get follow-up from him on what was reported.
Joepa also called Uncle Chester in his office a few years earlier when he heard stories about him but nothing to substantiate it and told him he was done, never going to get his job as head coach and not going to be allowed to stay on board anymore that he needs to step aside and retire. That the morons running that school allowed him to keep an office and/or keys to the facilities and have free reign of them even a few years later was just plain assinine, but again I don't believe that was Joepa's fault.
The chain of command is to the police, not an AD.
depends on your workplace policy. you don't want to be that employee that didn't notify their superior and brought in the police.
i see paterno (or his lawyer son's argument) its just been a lot of stuff going on for yrs w that program coupled w his all america paternalistic good guy cult worship that has always made me squirm. add the child rape in the showers to it and it gets a lot worse.
still, wont be surprised to see paterno keep his image
(11-07-2011 04:01 AM)pono Wrote: [ -> ]depends on your workplace policy. you don't want to be that employee that didn't notify their superior and brought in the police.
Should NOT depend on workplace policy. If you are a mandated reporter in Pennsylvania (and Paterno is) you are required to:
report or cause a report to be made to the Department of Public Welfare when they have reasonable cause to suspect on the basis of their professional or other training or experience, that a child coming before them in their professional or official capacity is a victim of child abuse. .
Schools in Ohio used to run into this problem all the time- a teacher would report to the principal who would not report to police or Child Protection and the fallout is on the teacher for not assuring the report got made. Failure to rport is a petty misdemeanor with no teeth unfortunately, but clearly bringing in the police would not make any difference to Paterno's job status. Would you fire the legendary coach who is the figurehead for your school and who just put a pedophile in jail?