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I can't believe NIU's in that list. Or Ball State. Either everyone else is having a bad year or the writer was 03-drunk
(10-24-2011 01:51 PM)NIU007 Wrote: [ -> ]I can't believe NIU's in that list. Or Ball State. Either everyone else is having a bad year or the writer was 03-drunk

What other non-AQ teams out there are better?

It definitely is a bad year for the non-AQ's. Houston is overrated. They haven't beaten a single team with a winning record.
EMU could move into the top 10 by simply not playing this weekend. 03-melodramatic
BYU is very overrated at #3. I would put them at about 7 or 8 behind Southern Miss, SMU, TCU and maybe SDSU and Toledo.

Unreal that NIU, BSU and EMU could all be in there but closer inspection of the standings reveals that everyone is else is really bad and probably doesn't deserve to be there either. However, Tulsa, Temple, Arkansas State and Louisiana should all get consideration too.
I didn't look at the possibilities very closely, I know last year there were a bunch of non-AQs that were very good. Must be in short supply this year.
(10-24-2011 02:32 PM)epasnoopy Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-24-2011 01:51 PM)NIU007 Wrote: [ -> ]I can't believe NIU's in that list. Or Ball State. Either everyone else is having a bad year or the writer was 03-drunk

What other non-AQ teams out there are better?

It definitely is a bad year for the non-AQ's. Houston is overrated. They haven't beaten a single team with a winning record.

Neither has NIU 03-wink but what separates the two is that Houston has not *lost* to a team with a losing record 03-wink
(10-24-2011 06:44 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-24-2011 02:32 PM)epasnoopy Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-24-2011 01:51 PM)NIU007 Wrote: [ -> ]I can't believe NIU's in that list. Or Ball State. Either everyone else is having a bad year or the writer was 03-drunk

What other non-AQ teams out there are better?

It definitely is a bad year for the non-AQ's. Houston is overrated. They haven't beaten a single team with a winning record.

Neither has NIU 03-wink but what separates the two is that Houston has not *lost* to a team with a losing record 03-wink

They've come very close a couple times. They just better hope they don't get matched up against a good team in a bowl game. With how untested they went, i don't think they'd fair well.
One would think a MAC message board would be celebrating such recognition of its football programs. But alas, that's not what we do on MACbbs. We must continue the drumbeat that this conference doesn't measure up. How sad.
Tulsa should be on the list. They have lost 3 games, but against Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Boise.
Combined records of 1-A teams each team beat:

Toledo: 16-15
Ball St: 12-27
NIU: 9-21
Tulsa: 8-22
EMU: 7-16
So we play a really crap game, and a team we annihilated 42-0 jumps us?
(10-24-2011 10:41 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ]So we play a really crap game, and a team we annihilated 42-0 jumps us?

Outside of the top 5 teams, noo ne is really playing "good" football. Temple is good but just like about every other non AQ team, they aren't consistant. IF Temple can beat someone good(ish) like OU or Miami then they will prove to pollsters and people making lists like this that they can compete in the MAC. So far Temple is the school of excuses when it comes to MAC play... (0-14 vs. MAC teams with winning records)
(10-24-2011 08:42 PM)LongtimeFan Wrote: [ -> ]One would think a MAC message board would be celebrating such recognition of its football programs. But alas, that's not what we do on MACbbs. We must continue the drumbeat that this conference doesn't measure up. How sad.
If us MAC teams would have done better in OOC play then it would be different. The best thing that is happening this year is EMU, BSU & BGSU don't stink reducing out bottom dweller seller status. Other than that we don't have much going for us nationally until bowl time if we can get 5, 6 or even 7 teams in a bowl game.

Until then most people will keep on playing that catchy drum beat...
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