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You could say the same about USF and most likely Rutgers unfortunately.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/wr...z1alVHOjPP


It's nice to suggest the Bearcats should make a run at the Big 12, but this isn't fantasy football. This is big business. UC is not a player in that game. The Bearcats are last in the Big East in football revenues. In 2010, Cincinnati football took in $13 million; Texas spent $25 million.

There is no honor among thieves, and there is no thieving like the thieving in big-time college football. It has become every school for itself, and when that happens, schools get rolled. Consider Cincinnati rolled. The Bearcats didn't invest heavily in their sports so they could compete with East Carolina.

(10-14-2011 12:54 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: [ -> ]You could say the same about USF and most likely Rutgers unfortunately.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/wr...z1alVHOjPP


It's nice to suggest the Bearcats should make a run at the Big 12, but this isn't fantasy football. This is big business. UC is not a player in that game. The Bearcats are last in the Big East in football revenues. In 2010, Cincinnati football took in $13 million; Texas spent $25 million.

There is no honor among thieves, and there is no thieving like the thieving in big-time college football. It has become every school for itself, and when that happens, schools get rolled. Consider Cincinnati rolled. The Bearcats didn't invest heavily in their sports so they could compete with East Carolina.

Ouch!

This is from Cincinnati's own Paul Daugherty. And very few if any UC fans like him.

What is the point of yet another one of these articles anyway?

We already knew this.

And not only does he put down UC he puts down ECU, which is another thing I'm growing tired of. All of the schools like UC, ECU, USF, CUSA schools, etc are spending millions of dollars on their athletic programs and facilities. They are doing what they can to make themselves better and to compete. I'm tired of this guy and all media for that matter putting down these schools because they are not in the Big 10, or SEC, etc.

Paul Daugherty has no clue what he is talking about. That is all.

If it makes you feel any better, USF is in the same boat. Not sure why he singled out UC. USF, and IMO Rutgers are in the same position (I do not believe the B10 or ACC are likely to send a lifeboat to Rutgers).

(10-14-2011 01:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: [ -> ]If it makes you feel any better, USF is in the same boat. Not sure why he singled out UC. USF, and IMO Rutgers are in the same position (I do not believe the B10 or ACC are likely to send a lifeboat to Rutgers).

Because he hates UC. Just the fact that he compares Texas's budget with UC's should tell you how much of a crock he is and how little he understands conference realignment. Hell, 90% of the FBS schools couldn't compete with Texas' budget!

Three anti-UC articles for PDoc in one week. He has already been blasted on the UC forums and on his own blog.

(10-14-2011 01:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: [ -> ]If it makes you feel any better, USF is in the same boat. Not sure why he singled out UC. USF, and IMO Rutgers are in the same position (I do not believe the B10 or ACC are likely to send a lifeboat to Rutgers).

Unfortunately all Rutgers can sell is potential and academics. And potential means squat.

I hate to see the way this thing turned out. Very disappointed in the way SU handled this situation. The former AD and president were classy folks who would never do things this way.

We're all still wondering why this guy is employed by the local fish wrap. I've stopped reading his lame articles awhile ago. The only UC sportswriter that you want to read is Dan Hoard. Keeps it real, and informative.

(10-14-2011 01:20 PM)brista21 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-14-2011 01:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: [ -> ]If it makes you feel any better, USF is in the same boat. Not sure why he singled out UC. USF, and IMO Rutgers are in the same position (I do not believe the B10 or ACC are likely to send a lifeboat to Rutgers).

Unfortunately all Rutgers can sell is potential and academics. And potential means squat.

Potential has netted years of articles citing Rutger's potential.

(10-14-2011 01:23 PM)cuseroc Wrote: [ -> ]I hate to see the way this thing turned out. Very disappointed in the way SU handled this situation. The former AD and president were classy folks who would never do things this way.

It's a sign of the times. Sports (but mostly the money that comes with it) make people do things they know they should not be doing.

But then they try to spin it and say how conference 'X' is such a better fit for us.

I wonder if PDoc knows anything about any Universities' facilities? I mean really does he take tours around the Country?

I take it another way. I do not think he is insulting Cincinnati at all. I think the writer in his own way is trying to get the public and/or politicians to notice what is going on in college sports. The greed, backstabbing, scheming, pettiness all part of what has gone on in conference re-alignment. Its not really right what has gone on over the last few years and it is disgraceful how college presidents, TV networks and conference presidents have all acted. A school like Cincinnati and others are about to be shoved to the side all as a result of this rush to get more money. I think it is good that there are articles written about this ongoing fiasco that is college athletics. The public, the politicians maybe even the college president's should ask themselves "what are we doing?". In this rush to get more money there are going to be schools that are going to be shoved to the side through no fault of their own.

(10-14-2011 03:11 PM)tj_2009 Wrote: [ -> ]I take it another way. I do not think he is insulting Cincinnati at all. I think the writer in his own way is trying to get the public and/or politicians to notice what is going on in college sports. The greed, backstabbing, scheming, pettiness all part of what has gone on in conference re-alignment. Its not really right what has gone on over the last few years and it is disgraceful how college presidents, TV networks and conference presidents have all acted. A school like Cincinnati and others are about to be shoved to the side all as a result of this rush to get more money. I think it is good that there are articles written about this ongoing fiasco that is college athletics. The public, the politicians maybe even the college president's should ask themselves "what are we doing?". In this rush to get more money there are going to be schools that are going to be shoved to the side through no fault of their own.

He has been writing for the Cincinnati Enquirer for over 20 years, and he loves to rip UC.
Every year he dusts off the fans "get over Huggins" article, but in reality he can't get over Huggins.

If the BCS money was such a big factor in determining winners and losers then programs like Kentucky, Vandy, Old Miss, Miss St, Duke, Wake Forest, NCST, Colorado, Kansas, Texas Tech, Washington St, Oregon ST, Minnesota, Indiana, Purdue would be able to beat schools tom the WAC, MAC, MWC and SunBelt Conferences with out any trouble every year. But as you can see 20 million did not buy Indiana a victory over Ball St. Examples like that are all over college football. Kentucky will never win the SEC in this life time. Same for most of the schools listed above.
Cincinnati can and will compete if given the chance.

I don't know why Mr. Daugherty feels he needs to single out East Carolina twice in that article. We've invested in our facilities too, with a much smaller conference payout. Perhaps he's jealous because twice as many fans came to see UAB @ ECU as came to see NC State @ Cincinnati? Whatever the case, it's two-faced to whine about being left out while hurling insults at those who never were invited to the club in the first place.

(10-14-2011 12:54 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: [ -> ]The Bearcats didn't invest heavily in their sports so they could compete with East Carolina.

What makes ECU's (and other non-BCS AQ) facilities improvements so impressive is unlike UC, ECU did it without ONE DIME of BCS AQ $$$.

Just in the last few years, ECU expanded their football stadium to 50,000 seats (15,000 seats more than UC's own stadium):



Newly built baseball facility, capacity 5,000:




New 1,000 seat softball stadium:


New 1,000 seat soccer stadium




New Indoor Tennis Facility


Plus a new 20,000 sq ft Athletic Office Facilities

And a new eight-lane polyurethane track

Maybe this Cinci writer should have done a piece on how ECU and other non-BCS AQ programs were able to do so much without the benefit of one dime of BCS AQ $$$$.

NOTE: As I have noted many times, UC has some great on-campus facilities...as the above comments are focused solely on the writer.

Folks...Paul Doc is a loser who hates UC and writes BS about the Cats in our own home paper all the time. In fact he came into the UC forum to try and defend himself b/c he took so much heat over this article and got busted...and used.

Why compare UC to Texas...NOBODY in the Big East compares to Texas...NOBODY in the B12 compares to them either. So to say, well, UC doesn't compare to Texas therefore they aren't worthy of B12 is just piss poor logic. Compare UC football to KU, KSU, ISU, etc. but not Texas for pete sake.

Again, Paul Doc sucks....

(10-14-2011 04:17 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: [ -> ]Folks...Paul Doc is a loser who hates UC and writes BS about the Cats in our own home paper all the time. In fact he came into the UC forum to try and defend himself b/c he took so much heat over this article and got busted...and used.

Why compare UC to Texas...NOBODY in the Big East compares to Texas...NOBODY in the B12 compares to them either. So to say, well, UC doesn't compare to Texas therefore they aren't worthy of B12 is just piss poor logic. Compare UC football to KU, KSU, ISU, etc. but not Texas for pete sake.

Again, Paul Doc sucks....

Thanks, Bearcat... Saw a Cincy paper by his name and figured he had different allegiances. He sure did ruffle my feathers!