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Coach Bill Cubit likes to go for it on fourth down. Thus far, WMU has a 100% success rate (10 for 10) on fourth down conversions. I anticipate NIU's defense getting a couple of really exciting "third down stops" and then recognize . . . . our defense needs to stop them again.

What confidence level do you have on NIU's defense?

Four and out!
Hopefully someone will let the West side know that 4th down plays are important. They need to stand up and make noise.
(10-13-2011 09:53 AM)HuskiemobileMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hopefully someone will let the West side know that 4th down plays are important. They need to stand up and make noise.

So are 3rd downs and 2nd and long too.
Really we are not that ballsy. When we go on 4th it is for a yard or less and on the other side of the 50. They are no brainers that most teams would be able to get.
I hope we can force some 4th downs. Heck, I hope we can force some 3rd downs.
It doesn't matter what year, what team, what coach, we can't stop anyone on fourth down. It doesn't matter if it's 4th-and-1 or 4th-and-33.
(10-13-2011 12:11 PM)badmoonrising_13 Wrote: [ -> ]It doesn't matter what year, what team, what coach, we can't stop anyone on fourth down. It doesn't matter if it's 4th-and-1 or 4th-and-33.
Bad, You need to get a handle on life. Your posts are always so negative and depressing. I can only imagine what you are like to be around. You need to up your meds as the current dose isn't working.
(10-13-2011 12:31 PM)jakesgramp Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-13-2011 12:11 PM)badmoonrising_13 Wrote: [ -> ]It doesn't matter what year, what team, what coach, we can't stop anyone on fourth down. It doesn't matter if it's 4th-and-1 or 4th-and-33.
Bad, You need to get a handle on life. Your posts are always so negative and depressing. I can only imagine what you are like to be around. You need to up your meds as the current dose isn't working.

badmoonrising_13 is right when it comes to NIU and the lack of clutch defensive stops over the years.
(10-13-2011 12:43 PM)Spudskie Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-13-2011 12:31 PM)jakesgramp Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-13-2011 12:11 PM)badmoonrising_13 Wrote: [ -> ]It doesn't matter what year, what team, what coach, we can't stop anyone on fourth down. It doesn't matter if it's 4th-and-1 or 4th-and-33.
Bad, You need to get a handle on life. Your posts are always so negative and depressing. I can only imagine what you are like to be around. You need to up your meds as the current dose isn't working.

badmoonrising_13 is right when it comes to NIU and the lack of clutch defensive stops over the years.

Does seem like a trend. I only remember last year's WMU game where we stopped them at the end of the game. In all my years of watching I can't recall other instances of late stops. Well, Maryland I guess.
(10-13-2011 02:06 PM)NIU007 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-13-2011 12:43 PM)Spudskie Wrote: [ -> ]badmoonrising_13 is right when it comes to NIU and the lack of clutch defensive stops over the years.

Does seem like a trend. I only remember last year's WMU game where we stopped them at the end of the game. In all my years of watching I can't recall other instances of late stops. Well, Maryland I guess.

I'd like to see us win the game with a last minute offensive drive. Been awhile since that happened.
(10-13-2011 12:31 PM)jakesgramp Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-13-2011 12:11 PM)badmoonrising_13 Wrote: [ -> ]It doesn't matter what year, what team, what coach, we can't stop anyone on fourth down. It doesn't matter if it's 4th-and-1 or 4th-and-33.
Bad, You need to get a handle on life. Your posts are always so negative and depressing. I can only imagine what you are like to be around. You need to up your meds as the current dose isn't working.
Thanks. I'll try to do better. Despite a decade of futility on key defensive situations, I am confident each and every defensive player will try his or her best on the crucial downs. We'll give each of them a ribbon or a medal for their efforts whether they are successful or not.

03-puke
(10-13-2011 09:53 AM)HuskiemobileMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hopefully someone will let the West side know that 4th down plays are important. They need to stand up and make noise.

the games Ive attended the west side has been more game-savy than the east side. Sometimes I literally; think most east side students, its their first football game.
(10-13-2011 12:31 PM)jakesgramp Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-13-2011 12:11 PM)badmoonrising_13 Wrote: [ -> ]It doesn't matter what year, what team, what coach, we can't stop anyone on fourth down. It doesn't matter if it's 4th-and-1 or 4th-and-33.
Bad, You need to get a handle on life. Your posts are always so negative and depressing. I can only imagine what you are like to be around. You need to up your meds as the current dose isn't working.
+1000!!! He must hang out too much with WhiskeyDick. WD is a downer too.
(10-13-2011 03:00 PM)HuskieFootball Addict Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-13-2011 12:31 PM)jakesgramp Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-13-2011 12:11 PM)badmoonrising_13 Wrote: [ -> ]It doesn't matter what year, what team, what coach, we can't stop anyone on fourth down. It doesn't matter if it's 4th-and-1 or 4th-and-33.
Bad, You need to get a handle on life. Your posts are always so negative and depressing. I can only imagine what you are like to be around. You need to up your meds as the current dose isn't working.
+1000!!! He must hang out too much with WhiskeyDick. WD is a downer too.

I appreciate that. I'll try to forget about the 4th-and-6 against Kansas this year, the 4th-and-7(?) against Miami last year, 3rd-and-33 against Toledo, and the countless other number of defensive disappointments our team has suffered. Hopefully the trend will end. Oh yeah, I'm a Cubs fan too like many of the other people on this board!
It must be so wonderful in your world: All sunshine and unicorns...
We will stop them on 4th down? No. That's why we need the ball last.
(10-13-2011 03:19 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote: [ -> ]We will stop them on 4th down? No. That's why we need the ball last.

I agree
I would rather be down by 7 or less with 3 minutes to go with the offense on the field then the defense trying to hold a late lead.
Way too many nightmares with the latter.
(10-13-2011 03:18 PM)badmoonrising_13 Wrote: [ -> ]It must be so wonderful in your world: All sunshine and unicorns...

Is that a unicorn? No, it's a quadricorn.
(10-13-2011 02:06 PM)NIU007 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-13-2011 12:43 PM)Spudskie Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-13-2011 12:31 PM)jakesgramp Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-13-2011 12:11 PM)badmoonrising_13 Wrote: [ -> ]It doesn't matter what year, what team, what coach, we can't stop anyone on fourth down. It doesn't matter if it's 4th-and-1 or 4th-and-33.
Bad, You need to get a handle on life. Your posts are always so negative and depressing. I can only imagine what you are like to be around. You need to up your meds as the current dose isn't working.

badmoonrising_13 is right when it comes to NIU and the lack of clutch defensive stops over the years.

Does seem like a trend. I only remember last year's WMU game where we stopped them at the end of the game. In all my years of watching I can't recall other instances of late stops. Well, Maryland I guess.

Ohio the same year. I can't recall a lot. D played very good in the bowl last year I thought.
You're assuming that the defense makes a 3rd down stop.

They may not even see a 4th down.
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