Eric Crawford - Courier-Journal (Louisville) 7th point on his blog today only stated this:
7. Still hearing rumblings that UConn to the ACC is closer to happening than it may appear publicly.
Don't know why this would be particularly but I thought I might pass this on. It could be turning up the heat on Notre Dame by further destablizing the Big East particularly if the Big East also loses Louisville, WVU and/or Cincy to the Big 12. His main source is Jurich but he said he didn't talk to him today.
Or maybe as a replacement for FSU in a 16 school SEC
(10-06-2011 10:18 PM)UABGrad Wrote: [ -> ]Or maybe as a replacement for FSU in a 16 school SEC
That could be. That would hurt for sure, and I can't argue the point other than to say it would be a much tougher road to hoe for the Seminoles to the BCS. Could be NC State - that would be the new market Slive would like. Or maybe it's just the next piece of the puzzle for the Eastern Seaboard domination for the ACC.
(10-06-2011 10:25 PM)ringmaster Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2011 10:18 PM)UABGrad Wrote: [ -> ]Or maybe as a replacement for FSU in a 16 school SEC
That could be. That would hurt for sure, and I can't argue the point other than to say it would be a much tougher road to hoe for the Seminoles to the BCS. Could be NC State - that would be the new market Slive would like. Or maybe it's just the next piece of the puzzle for the Eastern Seaboard domination for the ACC.
I would be surprised if FSU left the ACC. It seems like the academic ties to the ACC schools combined with the easier path to the BCS or national title game would be too much for FSU to throw away. That's just my opinion, but we'll see how things play out.
The rumblings for UCONN make no sense right now. I definitely would not expect to see any more additions by the ACC unless it knows that it will be getting ND or Texas to come into the fold. ND seems like a more likely scenario, but I wouldn't be surprised if they try to stay independent at all costs.
I see no way NC State leaves the ACC.
(10-06-2011 10:29 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2011 10:25 PM)ringmaster Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2011 10:18 PM)UABGrad Wrote: [ -> ]Or maybe as a replacement for FSU in a 16 school SEC
That could be. That would hurt for sure, and I can't argue the point other than to say it would be a much tougher road to hoe for the Seminoles to the BCS. Could be NC State - that would be the new market Slive would like. Or maybe it's just the next piece of the puzzle for the Eastern Seaboard domination for the ACC.
I would be surprised if FSU left the ACC. It seems like the academic ties to the ACC schools combined with the easier path to the BCS or national title game would be too much for FSU to throw away. That's just my opinion, but we'll see how things play out.
The rumblings for UCONN make no sense right now. I definitely would not expect to see any more additions by the ACC unless it knows that it will be getting ND or Texas to come into the fold. ND seems like a more likely scenario, but I wouldn't be surprised if they try to stay independent at all costs.
Please, no Texas.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/spo...-doubt.xml
There's no question that the ACC has at least a mild interest in taking UConn. The question is if it's enough to actually add us without Notre Dame. If the Irish wise up, we are in.
Edit: sorry, the link's broken. I'll try to fix it.
My preference in order:
1.) ND
2.) PSU
3.) UConn
4.) RU
(10-06-2011 10:14 PM)ringmaster Wrote: [ -> ]Eric Crawford - Courier-Journal (Louisville) 7th point on his blog today only stated this:
7. Still hearing rumblings that UConn to the ACC is closer to happening than it may appear publicly.
Don't know why this would be particularly but I thought I might pass this on. It could be turning up the heat on Notre Dame by further destablizing the Big East particularly if the Big East also loses Louisville, WVU and/or Cincy to the Big 12. His main source is Jurich but he said he didn't talk to him today.
Well I think the ACC has told UCONN if they can get ND to come along they would be added...I think that the ACC is holding spots in the hope to land ND. I also think the Big 10 is doing the same.
I don't think the SEC would actually pine for ND. I don't think they are that interested. I think the PAC would be more interested than the SEC.
(10-06-2011 10:48 PM)Joey_Niklas Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2011 10:38 PM)uconnbaseball Wrote: [ -> ]http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/spo...-doubt.xml
There's no question that the ACC has at least a mild interest in taking UConn. The question is if it's enough to actually add us without Notre Dame. If the Irish wise up, we are in.
Edit: sorry, the link's broken. I'll try to fix it.
Speaking of ND... Check out this article.
http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.co...2/32541449
That was the stupidest article i ever read. Where is the basic thought process on these boards? ND doesnt play FB in the Big East but plays BBall and olympic sports there. If the FB teams leave do you think the 8 non-FB schools will dissolve their alliance? No, absolutely not so why would ND leave? They would fit in even better since it would be nothing but smaller private schools mostly made up of like minded catholic universities.
Explain again why they would leave if WVU or UofL left?
Oh and if they did hypothetically leave why would they choose the ACC? I think the B1G is the much more likely landing spot. Think about it, more money, more rivals, better academics, better geographic fit....MORE MONEY! Sorry ACC, just because you can convince some chicken littles that the sky is falling doesnt mean you can convince ND they need to join up with Georgia Tech and Florida St over Michigan and Purdue.
(10-07-2011 01:13 AM)NJRedMan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2011 10:48 PM)Joey_Niklas Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2011 10:38 PM)uconnbaseball Wrote: [ -> ]http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/spo...-doubt.xml
There's no question that the ACC has at least a mild interest in taking UConn. The question is if it's enough to actually add us without Notre Dame. If the Irish wise up, we are in.
Edit: sorry, the link's broken. I'll try to fix it.
Speaking of ND... Check out this article.
http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.co...2/32541449
That was the stupidest article i ever read. Where is the basic thought process on these boards? ND doesnt play FB in the Big East but plays BBall and olympic sports there. If the FB teams leave do you think the 8 non-FB schools will dissolve their alliance? No, absolutely not so why would ND leave? They would fit in even better since it would be nothing but smaller private schools mostly made up of like minded catholic universities.
Explain again why they would leave if WVU or UofL left?
Oh and if they did hypothetically leave why would they choose the ACC? I think the B1G is the much more likely landing spot. Think about it, more money, more rivals, better academics, better geographic fit....MORE MONEY! Sorry ACC, just because you can convince some chicken littles that the sky is falling doesnt mean you can convince ND they need to join up with Georgia Tech and Florida St over Michigan and Purdue.
Notre Dame is ACC bound if they have to give up independence.
(10-06-2011 10:25 PM)ringmaster Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2011 10:18 PM)UABGrad Wrote: [ -> ]Or maybe as a replacement for FSU in a 16 school SEC
That could be. That would hurt for sure, and I can't argue the point other than to say it would be a much tougher road to hoe for the Seminoles to the BCS. Could be NC State - that would be the new market Slive would like. Or maybe it's just the next piece of the puzzle for the Eastern Seaboard domination for the ACC.
If FSU and NCState left and Uconn and Rutgers joined, it would improve the conferences average USNWP ranking.
#10 Duke
#25 UVA
#25 Wake Forest
#29 UNC
#31 Boston College
#36 Georgia Tech
#38 Miami
#55 Maryland
#58 Connecticut
#58 Pittsburgh
#62 Syracuse
#68 Clemson
#68 Rutgers
#71 Virginia Tech
#101 Florida State
#101 N.C. State
and drop VT to dead last in the conference.
Under enhanced interrogation, ND would admit that they would prefer to go to the ACC with UConn if forced to join a conference.
But I don't see that happening until we get down to 4/64. We're not close to that.
(10-06-2011 10:18 PM)UABGrad Wrote: [ -> ]Or maybe as a replacement for FSU in a 16 school SEC
Notre Dame would be the #14 replacement if Florida State left for the SEC. If that were to occur, the ACC would stop at 14 and UConn would NOT get an invitation.
The only way that UConn is invited to join the ACC is as the #16 team to Notre Dame's #15.
(10-07-2011 02:53 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-07-2011 01:13 AM)NJRedMan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2011 10:48 PM)Joey_Niklas Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2011 10:38 PM)uconnbaseball Wrote: [ -> ]http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/spo...-doubt.xml
There's no question that the ACC has at least a mild interest in taking UConn. The question is if it's enough to actually add us without Notre Dame. If the Irish wise up, we are in.
Edit: sorry, the link's broken. I'll try to fix it.
Speaking of ND... Check out this article.
http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.co...2/32541449
That was the stupidest article i ever read. Where is the basic thought process on these boards? ND doesnt play FB in the Big East but plays BBall and olympic sports there. If the FB teams leave do you think the 8 non-FB schools will dissolve their alliance? No, absolutely not so why would ND leave? They would fit in even better since it would be nothing but smaller private schools mostly made up of like minded catholic universities.
Explain again why they would leave if WVU or UofL left?
Oh and if they did hypothetically leave why would they choose the ACC? I think the B1G is the much more likely landing spot. Think about it, more money, more rivals, better academics, better geographic fit....MORE MONEY! Sorry ACC, just because you can convince some chicken littles that the sky is falling doesnt mean you can convince ND they need to join up with Georgia Tech and Florida St over Michigan and Purdue.
Notre Dame is ACC bound if they have to give up independence.
Please explain why they would pick the ACC over the Big Ten where they can make more money play more rivals play in their geographic region be in a conference with better academics and once again MAKE MORE MONEY!?!?! Why would they make the decision? Really, just because you jumped to a crappy FB and two team BBall conference doesnt mean ND will as well.
(10-07-2011 07:19 AM)NJRedMan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-07-2011 02:53 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-07-2011 01:13 AM)NJRedMan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2011 10:48 PM)Joey_Niklas Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2011 10:38 PM)uconnbaseball Wrote: [ -> ]http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/spo...-doubt.xml
There's no question that the ACC has at least a mild interest in taking UConn. The question is if it's enough to actually add us without Notre Dame. If the Irish wise up, we are in.
Edit: sorry, the link's broken. I'll try to fix it.
Speaking of ND... Check out this article.
http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.co...2/32541449
That was the stupidest article i ever read. Where is the basic thought process on these boards? ND doesnt play FB in the Big East but plays BBall and olympic sports there. If the FB teams leave do you think the 8 non-FB schools will dissolve their alliance? No, absolutely not so why would ND leave? They would fit in even better since it would be nothing but smaller private schools mostly made up of like minded catholic universities.
Explain again why they would leave if WVU or UofL left?
Oh and if they did hypothetically leave why would they choose the ACC? I think the B1G is the much more likely landing spot. Think about it, more money, more rivals, better academics, better geographic fit....MORE MONEY! Sorry ACC, just because you can convince some chicken littles that the sky is falling doesnt mean you can convince ND they need to join up with Georgia Tech and Florida St over Michigan and Purdue.
Notre Dame is ACC bound if they have to give up independence.
Please explain why they would pick the ACC over the Big Ten where they can make more money play more rivals play in their geographic region be in a conference with better academics and once again MAKE MORE MONEY!?!?! Why would they make the decision? Really, just because you jumped to a crappy FB and two team BBall conference doesnt mean ND will as well.
Ask TerryD or just look at his posts about ND and the conference choice IF it has to be made. But, also, ND does not make decisions like that based on money. They have plenty of it. It has to do with institutional fit, the past treatment by the Big 10, that they don't want to be regionalized as a Midwestern school and the fact that they have a TON of alumni in the major Eastern cities and would rather have that exposure, the fact that the South offers a better recruiting ground, and the fact that the South is growing while the Midwest is shrinking (Michigan actually lost population in the last census, which is very hard to do.)
Don't buy it. UCONN is not going anywhere.
(10-07-2011 07:04 AM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2011 10:18 PM)UABGrad Wrote: [ -> ]Or maybe as a replacement for FSU in a 16 school SEC
Notre Dame would be the #14 replacement if Florida State left for the SEC. If that were to occur, the ACC would stop at 14 and UConn would NOT get an invitation.
The only way that UConn is invited to join the ACC is as the #16 team to Notre Dame's #15.
So, if the SEC grabs an ACC school, you're saying the ACC goes after ND? I don't believe they are at the point where they are willing to join any conference. So then, if I'm understanding your post correctly, when ND declines the ACC will stay at 13???
