by Brett McMurphy
Quote:In the matter of weeks, the Big East has lost Syracuse and Pittsburgh to the ACC and now TCU to the Big 12. And if Missouri leaves for the SEC, sources have told CBSSports.com the Big 12 will likely add three more schools to get to 12 members. At the top of that list, sources said, is Louisville, along with a combination of BYU, West Virginia, Cincinnati or Tulane.
Losing Louisville and West Virginia or Cincinnati would likely be a fatal blow to the Big East’s football BCS status. As damaging as these defections are to the Big East, it could have an even greater impact on the behemoth of college football: Notre Dame.
http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.co...2/32541449
I'm beyond confused how Tulane is in the picture for the Big 12. I watched 2 games in person at Tulane with an actual crowd of around 5k. No joke.
Tulane has a decent TV market in the Nolia.
(10-06-2011 05:09 PM)Butterfly Wrote: [ -> ]Tulane has a decent TV market in the Nolia.
NOLA TV market is pretty small these days. It's about the same size as Providence. On top of that, it is a poor market these days. And, you have to have some semblence of pull within a market to count it. Isn't that what people say about DePaul?
I think that ND has options other than joining a conference for football.
(10-06-2011 04:45 PM)OwlsExaminer Wrote: [ -> ]by Brett McMurphy
Quote:In the matter of weeks, the Big East has lost Syracuse and . As damaging as these defections are to the Big East, it could have an even greater impact on the behemoth of college football: Notre Dame.
http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.co...2/32541449
ND is at 0% risk. They still can leave rest of sports in BE, or the B12 likely would take them, and I guarantee that CUSA would. They may decide to move to ACC, but it will still be a choice and not a need.
(10-06-2011 05:17 PM)goodknightfl Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2011 04:45 PM)OwlsExaminer Wrote: [ -> ]by Brett McMurphy
Quote:In the matter of weeks, the Big East has lost Syracuse and . As damaging as these defections are to the Big East, it could have an even greater impact on the behemoth of college football: Notre Dame.
http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.co...2/32541449
ND is at 0% risk. They still can leave rest of sports in BE, or the B12 likely would take them, and I guarantee that CUSA would. They may decide to move to ACC, but it will still be a choice and not a need.
Yeah i dont see how this affects ND at all. Even if the BE football dissolves the Catholic schools will be stronger than ever.
how tulane is in the picture and uc isn't is just efing amazing to me...
I think the Tulane thing is just a smokescreen. But I've been wrong before.
Tulane does have proximity & good academics in its favor, but no fan base of its own. And both the Louisville & Cincy TV markets are now bigger than New Orleans' market. Only if the Texas schools are really, really worried about their traveling costs would I believe that Tulane is under serious consideration.
What happens to BE football won't impact ND. ND has enough friends to stay in BE non-football. The only thing that will impact ND is TV and BCS.
BCS might happen. If the BE goes away that's 1 more at-large (and potentially a broken contract and allows whole sale changes) and a fight over 3 bids per conference. Even then that doesn't necessarily threaten ND's privileged status within the BCS. Only wholesale revisions would.
And TV? BE's demise probably helps them retain their NBC contract. ABC/ESPN and regional networks have ACC and Big Ten. CBS the SEC. Fox the Pac-12 and Big 12. Who's NBC going to replace them with?
(10-06-2011 05:42 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: [ -> ]how tulane is in the picture and uc isn't is just efing amazing to me...
The Big 12 is interested in Tulane because they want to steal an SEC team. Unfortunately, no one has had the heart to tell the Big 12 that Tulane left the SEC in the 60s.
My guess ND would rather see BE collapse back to a catholic bb league and keep all their sports there.
I see them balking at BE turning into cusa north.
If they shop their other sports around, not sure they'd be in a position of strength this time.
Notre Dame's independance is NOT at risk...pure and simple
(10-06-2011 06:43 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote: [ -> ]My guess ND would rather see BE collapse back to a catholic bb league and keep all their sports there.
Not so. Their words over the last year have idicsted specifically that that scenario was not acceptable to them.
(10-06-2011 10:39 PM)adcorbett Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2011 06:43 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote: [ -> ]My guess ND would rather see BE collapse back to a catholic bb league and keep all their sports there.
Not so. Their words over the last year have idicsted specifically that that scenario was not acceptable to them.
Just words. When ND regularly lives up to the commitment of playing three BE schools in home and homes I'll believe something coming out of South Bend. If they wanted to keep the BE as anything more than CYO league, ND could have used its considerable influence with the BE membership and the networks to help keep things together until a new, more lucrative tv contract was negotiated.
Notre Dame will always have a home in the Big East with the 7 Catholic Schools that are not going anywhere. All this talk of the Big East folding is silly. The Big East may cease playing football, which is unlikely with the speculated invitations being issued tomorrow, but as a multisport conference they will be fine, which means Notre Dame's independence will be fine. The BCS will never write out Notre Dame and the Big East catholic schools will always be there for Notre Dame.
Actually, I'm hearing that it's not just Notre Dame's football INDEPENDENCE that's now in doubt, but their entire football PROGRAM! Greg Swaim is tweeting that, according to his sources in South Bend, recent developments in conference realignment have forced them to eliminate Notre Dame football starting with the 2013 season.
(10-06-2011 05:04 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: [ -> ]I'm beyond confused how Tulane is in the picture for the Big 12.
Tremendously stretching my imagination to the point of loopy speculation:
1. Someone joked about 'stealing a
former SEC team' in Tulane--an interesting notion. If you wanted to expand the Big XII's media footprint, but you can't actually steal an SEC team itself--what to do? Mooch your way into an SEC-friendly media market with Tulane and New Orleans. The SEC already did it by accepting Texas A&M, after all--and since Georgia Tech seems a-ok with the ACC...
Don't laugh at the notion of having a Big XII football championship (if they get back to at least 12 members) or its basketball tournament in the newly rechristened Mercedes-Benz Superdome. It's not likely--but not
that impossible.
2. With all of the obvious complaints about big college greed being behind these conference realignments--selecting Tulane might make for good public relations. Who would accuse Tulane of being greedy for accepting the greener (and
the greener) pastures of the Big XII? Given how the entire Green Wave athletic program was in real jeopardy after Hurricane Katrina, Big XII membership could be spun into a feel-good 'positive lifeline for student-athletes'. Or something like that.
(10-06-2011 05:15 PM)TerryD Wrote: [ -> ]I think that ND has options other than joining a conference for football.
Notre Dame will always have options other than joining a conference. But those options will not be as good for the student athletes (and yes, we do realize that at Notre Dame they are student athletes) at Notre Dame as their former relationship was with the Big East.
This will be the primary reason that Notre Dame will join the ACC; ultimately the University will do what is best for the student athletes (not the fans, the media or anyone else that may have an opinion).....this is why they are Notre Dame and is the real reason the ACC is the best option for Notre Dame.....care and concern for all of the student athletes.