I want to take a moment to thank Syracuse and Pittsburgh for bailing on the Big East, you helped us! Because of the two schools listed above, the Basketball Schools watched their lives flash before their eyes. For the first time, basketball schools didn't know where they were going or what was going to happen. Now, for the first time in history, they want football to run the Big East with the unanimous decision that they want what the football schools want. To add to that, a couple of unnamed schools (Depaul and Seton Hall perhaps?) said they would willingly leave if that is what it took to save the Big East. Maybe the tide is turning.
Start making plans for Annapolis & West Point.
(09-21-2011 08:47 AM)wimsmatthew Wrote: [ -> ]I want to take a moment to thank Syracuse and Pittsburgh for bailing on the Big East, you helped us! Because of the two schools listed above, the Basketball Schools watched their lives flash before their eyes. For the first time, basketball schools didn't know where they were going or what was going to happen. Now, for the first time in history, they want football to run the Big East with the unanimous decision that they want what the football schools want. To add to that, a couple of unnamed schools (Depaul and Seton Hall perhaps?) said they would willingly leave if that is what it took to save the Big East. Maybe the tide is turning.
You're out of your mind. The only way for the remaining football schools to run anything is to split as they should have done 8 years ago . . . or maybe 28 years ago.
The non-football schools want nothing to do with football any more.
Get ready to thank Rutgers and UConn as well! Those basketball schools will be dancing monkeys after those two leave. Putty in your hands.
that is entirely false. Both sides need each other. The basketball schools will be most relevant with football schools around. The football schools needs the BB Markets. It's a win-win in my opinion and people just never look at it the way they should.
(09-21-2011 08:50 AM)MichaelSavage Wrote: [ -> ]Start making plans for Annapolis & West Point.
If that's the plan to save BE football, then the BE football is dead, or at least on life support. That is quite possibly the most idiotic plan for football expansion I've seen. The only thing that could be dumber is adding three with Villonova being one of the three.
(09-21-2011 08:57 AM)Lethemeul Wrote: [ -> ] (09-21-2011 08:50 AM)MichaelSavage Wrote: [ -> ]Start making plans for Annapolis & West Point.
If that's the plan to save BE football, then the BE football is dead, or at least on life support. That is quite possibly the most idiotic plan for football expansion I've seen. The only thing that could be dumber is adding three with Villonova being one of the three.
Well, I hate to tell you, but that would be pretty close to the plan unless the Service Academies turn the Big East down.
I don't get what is so bad about adding the service academies in football.
Imagine Navy going to the Fiesta Bowl. Have you ever seen that?
The Naval Academy is a strong school. Army and Navy give the Big East a conference game AND probably one of the most storied rivalries in college football.
Army isn't a pushover like they have been in recent memory...
The Big East football is gonna look the The east coast WAC by the time the time those baboons get done destroying it. I expect Georgetown to announce they are joining for football in the next few days.
(09-21-2011 08:47 AM)wimsmatthew Wrote: [ -> ]I want to take a moment to thank Syracuse and Pittsburgh for bailing on the Big East, you helped us! Because of the two schools listed above, the Basketball Schools watched their lives flash before their eyes. For the first time, basketball schools didn't know where they were going or what was going to happen. Now, for the first time in history, they want football to run the Big East with the unanimous decision that they want what the football schools want. To add to that, a couple of unnamed schools (Depaul and Seton Hall perhaps?) said they would willingly leave if that is what it took to save the Big East. Maybe the tide is turning.
Seton Hall is actually on the verge of being asked to leave because their Olympic programs are god awful except maybe for baseball and basketball and they have been asked by the big east to improve their women's sports the last couple of years which they have failed to do. Poor DePaul can't seem to get on track thanks to Marquette's great recruiting in Chicago. However I disagree with all this talk of the BB schools wanting out. They get a portion of the football pie without having the expense of running an actual football program. Why would they want to walk away from free money? If ever there was a split it would be led by the football schools, not the other way around.
I actually think the opposite is true. The basketball schools gave in to several demands from the football schools that weren't in their interest. Now 2 of the three schools which best linked the basketball and football schools are gone. They'll probably go for 2 expansion targets out of region to get back to 8 (reluctantly), but if the conference loses 1 or 2 more members (and even if it doesn't), they might not see their future tied with the football schools, many of whom would have to be in different regions and might not go for 3-4 new out of region football members. I think the conference stays together if there is no more than 1 more loss, but anymore than that and all bets are off.
Dear UConn, RU, have fun in ACC.
Last five, let's apply to Big XII.
(09-21-2011 09:00 AM)Joe Rod Wrote: [ -> ]Well, I hate to tell you, but that would be pretty close to the plan unless the Service Academies turn the Big East down.
Doesn't hurt my feelings at all. I honestly cannot believe that the schools left in the BE that care about football would stick around if that was the solution. Even if they do, I'll be perfectly happy watching ECU and CUSA surpass the BE in performance and perception.
(09-21-2011 09:00 AM)TampaKnight Wrote: [ -> ]I don't get what is so bad about adding the service academies in football.
Imagine Navy going to the Fiesta Bowl. Have you ever seen that?
The Naval Academy is a strong school. Army and Navy give the Big East a conference game AND probably one of the most storied rivalries in college football.
Army isn't a pushover like they have been in recent memory...
Army and Navy will never go to a BCS bowl, even in an AQ conference. It doesn't matter if they have the opportunity. Their recuiting won't improve because that's not what they do. They build military leaders, and God bless them for that, not football players.
UConn and Rutgers aren't going anywhere. The ACC's not going to expand to 16 when it would appear only the SEC will go to 14 let alone 16. The Pac-12 is standing pat until Texas caves and agrees to be like everyone else in a conference, an equal partner in decisions and revenue distribution. The 7 remaining football schools need to split off and bring in UCF, ECU and Temple to get things started as a 10 school all-sports conference. No more hybrid.
(09-21-2011 09:43 AM)brista21 Wrote: [ -> ]UConn and Rutgers aren't going anywhere. The ACC's not going to expand to 16 when it would appear only the SEC will go to 14 let alone 16. The Pac-12 is standing pat until Texas caves and agrees to be like everyone else in a conference, an equal partner in decisions and revenue distribution. The 7 remaining football schools need to split off and bring in UCF, ECU and Temple to get things started as a 10 school all-sports conference. No more hybrid.
Things just aren't going to work out for the Big East unless the football and basketball schools break apart and the football schools can control their own destiny. If they stick with a hybrid model they're doomed.
(09-21-2011 08:50 AM)MichaelSavage Wrote: [ -> ]Start making plans for Greenville & Orlando.
You already know that they are not likely to add the sevice academies, so why would you even do that to yourself.