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(09-20-2011 10:07 PM)croppi33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-20-2011 09:50 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote: [ -> ]keep it cheap. po folks ain't goin out for breakfast, unless its cheap.

Like I said above, I'm not in it to make a lot of money just to live my dream and I'm very aware of the po folks. I'm one of them.

If you aren't in it to make money then quit with the idea because you will close your doors quickly. The American way of business is to make money and the more the better. Ideals are great but not in business. Business is business, if you want ideals then read philosophy on your own time. Sorry to be so harsh but welcome to the business world.

(09-21-2011 10:32 AM)JTiger Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-20-2011 10:07 PM)croppi33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-20-2011 09:50 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote: [ -> ]keep it cheap. po folks ain't goin out for breakfast, unless its cheap.

Like I said above, I'm not in it to make a lot of money just to live my dream and I'm very aware of the po folks. I'm one of them.

If you aren't in it to make money then quit with the idea because you will close your doors quickly. The American way of business is to make money and the more the better. Ideals are great but not in business. Business is business, if you want ideals then read philosophy on your own time. Sorry to be so harsh but welcome to the business world.

I am TigerBill and I endorse this message.

(09-20-2011 10:41 PM)kpigout Wrote: [ -> ]Pulled - Pork - Donuts...

I'm tellin" ya, that's money right there!

Voodoo Doughnuts has a maple and bacon one.



They used to serve a pepto-bismo glazed doughnut that they only served late at night.

(09-21-2011 10:36 AM)TigerBill Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2011 10:32 AM)JTiger Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-20-2011 10:07 PM)croppi33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-20-2011 09:50 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote: [ -> ]keep it cheap. po folks ain't goin out for breakfast, unless its cheap.

Like I said above, I'm not in it to make a lot of money just to live my dream and I'm very aware of the po folks. I'm one of them.

If you aren't in it to make money then quit with the idea because you will close your doors quickly. The American way of business is to make money and the more the better. Ideals are great but not in business. Business is business, if you want ideals then read philosophy on your own time. Sorry to be so harsh but welcome to the business world.

I am TigerBill and I endorse this message.

I got your point but sometimes businesses does not value the people or the community it serves. I don't want to be one of those businesses. Would I like to make? Yes! Do I understand the primary reason for opening the business? Yes Do I value my mission statement? Yes I want to serve the community while being honest and forthcoming with the community I serve.

Your comments in no way were harmful to my spirit or ambitions. Thanks for the input as it is valued more than you know.

(09-21-2011 10:37 AM)mairving Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-20-2011 10:41 PM)kpigout Wrote: [ -> ]Pulled - Pork - Donuts...

I'm tellin" ya, that's money right there!

Voodoo Doughnuts has a maple and bacon one.



They used to serve a pepto-bismo glazed doughnut that they only served late at night.

I've looked into their product at a glance but did not see this. The picture makes my stomach turn and now I'm in need of that pepto-bismo glazed doughnut.

(09-21-2011 11:28 AM)croppi33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2011 10:36 AM)TigerBill Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2011 10:32 AM)JTiger Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-20-2011 10:07 PM)croppi33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-20-2011 09:50 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote: [ -> ]keep it cheap. po folks ain't goin out for breakfast, unless its cheap.

Like I said above, I'm not in it to make a lot of money just to live my dream and I'm very aware of the po folks. I'm one of them.

If you aren't in it to make money then quit with the idea because you will close your doors quickly. The American way of business is to make money and the more the better. Ideals are great but not in business. Business is business, if you want ideals then read philosophy on your own time. Sorry to be so harsh but welcome to the business world.

I am TigerBill and I endorse this message.

I got your point but sometimes businesses does not value the people or the community it serves. I don't want to be one of those businesses. Would I like to make? Yes! Do I understand the primary reason for opening the business? Yes Do I value my mission statement? Yes I want to serve the community while being honest and forthcoming with the community I serve.

Your comments in no way were harmful to my spirit or ambitions. Thanks for the input as it is valued more than you know.

Croppi- I think you may see a conflict where none exists. I have decided to donate X% of my earnings to charities of my choice. Frequently, that happens to be people who have taken in injured animals and are willing to care for them, but cannot afford the medical care. Or rescue groups. Or families who have fallen on hard times. Whatever I want. This makes me happy.

The more money my two businesses make, the more I can donate and the happier I am. Therefore, my commitment to making as much money as I can serves my dual purpose of supporting my family, as well as allowing me to help those in need, which, in turn, makes me happy.

This is why I have started a second business in a completely different field from the first one. People are always asking 'what can I do to make money from home?', but usually they don't really mean it. I do, because it's the only way to make the kind of money I really want to make and then pass on my chosen percentage to help others.

Does your town have a nice/recently renovated court square?

(09-21-2011 12:22 PM)Dak10 Wrote: [ -> ]Does your town have a nice/recently renovated court square?

Atoka nor Munford do not have a traditional town square.


I grew up there.

(09-21-2011 11:33 AM)TigerBill Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2011 11:28 AM)croppi33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2011 10:36 AM)TigerBill Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2011 10:32 AM)JTiger Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-20-2011 10:07 PM)croppi33 Wrote: [ -> ]Like I said above, I'm not in it to make a lot of money just to live my dream and I'm very aware of the po folks. I'm one of them.

If you aren't in it to make money then quit with the idea because you will close your doors quickly. The American way of business is to make money and the more the better. Ideals are great but not in business. Business is business, if you want ideals then read philosophy on your own time. Sorry to be so harsh but welcome to the business world.

I am TigerBill and I endorse this message.

I got your point but sometimes businesses does not value the people or the community it serves. I don't want to be one of those businesses. Would I like to make? Yes! Do I understand the primary reason for opening the business? Yes Do I value my mission statement? Yes I want to serve the community while being honest and forthcoming with the community I serve.

Your comments in no way were harmful to my spirit or ambitions. Thanks for the input as it is valued more than you know.

Croppi- I think you may see a conflict where none exists. I have decided to donate X% of my earnings to charities of my choice. Frequently, that happens to be people who have taken in injured animals and are willing to care for them, but cannot afford the medical care. Or rescue groups. Or families who have fallen on hard times. Whatever I want. This makes me happy.

The more money my two businesses make, the more I can donate and the happier I am. Therefore, my commitment to making as much money as I can serves my dual purpose of supporting my family, as well as allowing me to help those in need, which, in turn, makes me happy.

This is why I have started a second business in a completely different field from the first one. People are always asking 'what can I do to make money from home?', but usually they don't really mean it. I do, because it's the only way to make the kind of money I really want to make and then pass on my chosen percentage to help others.

I don't see this as a conflict. Maybe I'm just being naive in my thoughts. I guess it is best to look at it from the African plains point of view. Only the strongest will survive. Perhaps I need to be more aggressive with my line of thinking when it comes to the bottom line.

My family and I live in Munford. We like bringing donuts for our Sunday School Classes, and for pre-worship snacks. Please be open on Sundays, and you'll get plenty of our business. The only other option we've utilized in the past is driving to Millington. I'd love to keep my money in Tipton County...and support a small business. I wish you the best of luck, and will certainly come by for a donut as soon as you open.

(09-21-2011 12:53 PM)croppi33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2011 11:33 AM)TigerBill Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2011 11:28 AM)croppi33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2011 10:36 AM)TigerBill Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2011 10:32 AM)JTiger Wrote: [ -> ]If you aren't in it to make money then quit with the idea because you will close your doors quickly. The American way of business is to make money and the more the better. Ideals are great but not in business. Business is business, if you want ideals then read philosophy on your own time. Sorry to be so harsh but welcome to the business world.

I am TigerBill and I endorse this message.

I got your point but sometimes businesses does not value the people or the community it serves. I don't want to be one of those businesses. Would I like to make? Yes! Do I understand the primary reason for opening the business? Yes Do I value my mission statement? Yes I want to serve the community while being honest and forthcoming with the community I serve.

Your comments in no way were harmful to my spirit or ambitions. Thanks for the input as it is valued more than you know.

Croppi- I think you may see a conflict where none exists. I have decided to donate X% of my earnings to charities of my choice. Frequently, that happens to be people who have taken in injured animals and are willing to care for them, but cannot afford the medical care. Or rescue groups. Or families who have fallen on hard times. Whatever I want. This makes me happy.

The more money my two businesses make, the more I can donate and the happier I am. Therefore, my commitment to making as much money as I can serves my dual purpose of supporting my family, as well as allowing me to help those in need, which, in turn, makes me happy.

This is why I have started a second business in a completely different field from the first one. People are always asking 'what can I do to make money from home?', but usually they don't really mean it. I do, because it's the only way to make the kind of money I really want to make and then pass on my chosen percentage to help others.

I don't see this as a conflict. Maybe I'm just being naive in my thoughts. I guess it is best to look at it from the African plains point of view. Only the strongest will survive. Perhaps I need to be more aggressive with my line of thinking when it comes to the bottom line.

Good man, that's the spirit. Losing money won't help anybody, getting rich can help a lot of people. Billy Graham generated hundreds of millions through his appearances and books, but took a moderate salary for himself. Let me know when you're up and running and we'll see about some free publicity.

Cold chocolate milk.

REALY good coffee.

Friendly employees.

Visible from the highway.

A comfortable seating area with free newspapers.

Choose a charity in the community to support with a small percentage of your profits and post that prominently.

A bulletin board like Starbucks where community businesses, charities, and individuals can post. In other words, make your shop a "community center."

Decorate some of your donuts/pastries with seasonal themes, and colors of the local high school team; make Tiger cookies/donuts. Anything to connect with a holiday or something going on in the communty's or nation's life.

I was driving through Atoka the other day on my way to a job in Covington. I imagine a fair percentage of folks on that road are traveling through.
I had a craving for a simple homemade breakfast, eggs and hashbrowns, grits. Scanning the road all the way home, I did not see one such place, no Waffle House or diner. Now, I am sure I missed several places, but a highly visible breakfast place with even a limited fresh, wholesome menu right on the highway is on my wish list. Reading all the weird ingredients that the chains put in just their scrambled eggs makes me never want to touch them again. I know you aren't aiming to serve breakfast, but just FYI. I'm always looking for whole grain products.

Visit Bluff City Coffee downtown on S. Main in the South Main Arts District. They do a good business with a limited menu and small business plan. They know how to connect with their neighborhood.
When you open, I will definitely stop there on my occasional trips up the road. Good luck!

(09-21-2011 10:32 AM)JTiger Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-20-2011 10:07 PM)croppi33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-20-2011 09:50 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote: [ -> ]keep it cheap. po folks ain't goin out for breakfast, unless its cheap.

Like I said above, I'm not in it to make a lot of money just to live my dream and I'm very aware of the po folks. I'm one of them.

If you aren't in it to make money then quit with the idea because you will close your doors quickly. The American way of business is to make money and the more the better. Ideals are great but not in business. Business is business, if you want ideals then read philosophy on your own time. Sorry to be so harsh but welcome to the business world.

great public parks, the arts, and even Tiger Athletics are funded by people who followed this path ... the best way to do the most good is to make a lot of money... (usually)

Here is some real help.
One of you don't need to quit your day job because the business will probably barely break even (if your lucky) for the first year or two even if you or your wife are the only ones working there.
Good luck.
Oh, and another tip. Don't go franchise. You'll find yourself slaving to make sure your franchise fee is paid. Not enough help paying the franchise to make it worth it.

Take advantage of your bank or govt. agencies (Small Business Administration) or a professional who can help you draw up a detailed business plan. They will be able to see pitfalls and challenges you can't imagine yet, and help you plan for business licenses, fees, taxes, and other expenses, and let you know just how much you need to bring in to meet expenses. I imagine dealing with vendors will be another challenge. You also probably need to know the feasibility of getting a loan, if and when you need one. And trust me, you will probably need one to help with cash flow at some point initially.

Most small businesses fail because of cash flow and not enough initial capital investment. I have family in the restaurant business. It is tough, tough, tough. Just go in with your eyes wide open.

(09-21-2011 03:12 PM)tigertommy Wrote: [ -> ]Here is some real help.
One of you don't need to quit your day job because the business will probably barely break even (if your lucky) for the first year or two even if you or your wife are the only ones working there.
Good luck.
Oh, and another tip. Don't go franchise. You'll find yourself slaving to make sure your franchise fee is paid. Not enough help paying the franchise to make it worth it.

This really makes me want to spread my wings and fly.

No franchise. Couldn't afford it. The fees are very high.

It may do better than you think. I've had the opportunity to review the books of other shops that show a slight profit in the first year after salaries are paid to employees. The second year is much brighter. My wife and I would receive an hourly rate of pay in the first few years of the business that would allow us to meet our obligations at home. It's not gong to be a get rich quick business but something that would allow us to survive and maybe be comfortable financially at retirement. Time will only tell. I know we've got a lot of work to do but I think I can make this work.

(09-21-2011 04:07 PM)alterego2 Wrote: [ -> ]Take advantage of your bank or govt. agencies (Small Business Administration) or a professional who can help you draw up a detailed business plan. They will be able to see pitfalls and challenges you can't imagine yet, and help you plan for business licenses, fees, taxes, and other expenses, and let you know just how much you need to bring in to meet expenses. I imagine dealing with vendors will be another challenge. You also probably need to know the feasibility of getting a loan, if and when you need one. And trust me, you will probably need one to help with cash flow at some point initially.

Most small businesses fail because of cash flow and not enough initial capital investment. I have family in the restaurant business. It is tough, tough, tough. Just go in with your eyes wide open.

I will be seeking advice from the SBA next Friday. I am also looking to open a Business line of credit to assist in cash flow issues.

Vendors can and will take advantage of new business owners. I've delt with them in my current position for years. They will fight tooth and nail to make money. I will just have to fight harder in negotiations.

My grandparents owned a small store on 5th street for almost 50 years. I saw the disgust in their eyes on a daily bases. Times will be hard but if you know what your doing financially it can be overcome. Plan, plan, and plan, did I say plan?

Keep the advise coming, I'm listening!

(09-21-2011 04:21 PM)croppi33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2011 04:07 PM)alterego2 Wrote: [ -> ]Take advantage of your bank or govt. agencies (Small Business Administration) or a professional who can help you draw up a detailed business plan. They will be able to see pitfalls and challenges you can't imagine yet, and help you plan for business licenses, fees, taxes, and other expenses, and let you know just how much you need to bring in to meet expenses. I imagine dealing with vendors will be another challenge. You also probably need to know the feasibility of getting a loan, if and when you need one. And trust me, you will probably need one to help with cash flow at some point initially.

Most small businesses fail because of cash flow and not enough initial capital investment. I have family in the restaurant business. It is tough, tough, tough. Just go in with your eyes wide open.

I will be seeking advice from the SBA next Friday. I am also looking to open a Business line of credit to assist in cash flow issues.

Vendors can and will take advantage of new business owners. I've delt with them in my current position for years. They will fight tooth and nail to make money. I will just have to fight harder in negotiations.

My grandparents owned a small store on 5th street for almost 50 years. I saw the disgust in their eyes on a daily bases. Times will be hard but if you know what your doing financially it can be overcome. Plan, plan, and plan, did I say plan?

Keep the advise coming, I'm listening!

Sounds to me like you know what you're doing. Just don't overlook the possibilities of guerilla marketing in this age of social networking. It's time consuming but free. If you're interested, I just started a blog detailing my struggle opening my newest business.

Three words, dude: donut holes

(09-21-2011 05:05 PM)TigerBill Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2011 04:21 PM)croppi33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2011 04:07 PM)alterego2 Wrote: [ -> ]Take advantage of your bank or govt. agencies (Small Business Administration) or a professional who can help you draw up a detailed business plan. They will be able to see pitfalls and challenges you can't imagine yet, and help you plan for business licenses, fees, taxes, and other expenses, and let you know just how much you need to bring in to meet expenses. I imagine dealing with vendors will be another challenge. You also probably need to know the feasibility of getting a loan, if and when you need one. And trust me, you will probably need one to help with cash flow at some point initially.

Most small businesses fail because of cash flow and not enough initial capital investment. I have family in the restaurant business. It is tough, tough, tough. Just go in with your eyes wide open.

I will be seeking advice from the SBA next Friday. I am also looking to open a Business line of credit to assist in cash flow issues.

Vendors can and will take advantage of new business owners. I've delt with them in my current position for years. They will fight tooth and nail to make money. I will just have to fight harder in negotiations.

My grandparents owned a small store on 5th street for almost 50 years. I saw the disgust in their eyes on a daily bases. Times will be hard but if you know what your doing financially it can be overcome. Plan, plan, and plan, did I say plan?

Keep the advise coming, I'm listening!

Sounds to me like you know what you're doing. Just don't overlook the possibilities of guerilla marketing in this age of social networking. It's time consuming but free. If you're interested, I just started a blog detailing my struggle opening my newest business.

"guerilla marketing" -please explain. I have never heard this term before. And yes, I'm interested in reading your blog. You have the experience that I do not.