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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/ne...tcu_083011

Quote:There are only three other viable Texas options and the big one, UT, won’t come. Baylor and Texas Tech have major conference infrastructure but neither is better on the field than TCU. And playing in West Texas or Waco isn’t as appealing as getting into the big city.

Again, it’s about location.

Or you could consider this, it’s precisely the kind of move Texas and Oklahoma would hate. Not because they fear TCU, but at the idea of Nick Saban, Les Miles, et al in their backyard with improved chances of stealing a five-star recruit or three.

TCU is small and private, but so is Vanderbilt. And while Vanderbilt is rarely any good in football, Nashville lacks the recruits and the football passion of Fort Worth. It’s a whole different mindset. TCU wants to be great; when it needed that $100 million to improve the stadium it took just 95 donors to raise $143 million in a matter of weeks. This is the Little Sisters of the Rich.

so you're saying we can now ignore the rest of his articles.

(08-30-2011 05:09 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote: [ -> ]so you're saying we can now ignore the rest of his articles.

Hey, yesterday one of these internet sportswriter dudes was suggesting Maryland for the SEC. The shark has already been jumped.

(08-30-2011 05:12 PM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-30-2011 05:09 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote: [ -> ]so you're saying we can now ignore the rest of his articles.

Hey, yesterday one of these internet sportswriter dudes was suggesting Maryland for the SEC. The shark has already been jumped.

Don't forget UNC was also named in that article

(08-30-2011 05:13 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-30-2011 05:12 PM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-30-2011 05:09 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote: [ -> ]so you're saying we can now ignore the rest of his articles.

Hey, yesterday one of these internet sportswriter dudes was suggesting Maryland for the SEC. The shark has already been jumped.

Don't forget UNC was also named in that article

Apparently you guys have only been reading about expansion over the last few days. If you read articles last year you would know that the SEC was interested in adding North Carolina back then. In fact the SEC looked at North Carolina, Duke and several other schools but people close to the SEC said that it was tough to pry those schools away. Just because you guys don't want to believe it doesn't mean it's not true. Maryland was also rumored to be pursued by the Big Ten.

(08-30-2011 05:29 PM)CatsClaw Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-30-2011 05:13 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-30-2011 05:12 PM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-30-2011 05:09 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote: [ -> ]so you're saying we can now ignore the rest of his articles.

Hey, yesterday one of these internet sportswriter dudes was suggesting Maryland for the SEC. The shark has already been jumped.

Don't forget UNC was also named in that article

Apparently you guys have only been reading about expansion over the last few days. If you read articles last year you would know that the SEC was interested in adding North Carolina back then. In fact the SEC looked at North Carolina, Duke and several other schools but people close to the SEC said that it was tough to pry those schools away. Just because you guys don't want to believe it doesn't mean it's not true. Maryland was also rumored to be pursued by the Big Ten.

I'm sure the SEC does. But we also know UNC aint coming, you don't think they are either since you put your money on Mizzou, who's heading the B12 expansion committee. We also asked if you had any links that the SEC had been talking to the 3 NC schools, yesterday on the other thread.

That would be foolish of them. They, as with the rest of the league are due for a payday.

Something like this:



I KID! I KID!

What does talking to a school have to do w/ them actually coming? The B12 talked to ND, none of us thought they were coming. I believe that the B1G talked to Maryland, I believe that the SEC talked to UNC and Duke. I also believe that wouldn't get them to move to the SEC. I along w/ most are interested in what can happen, not what won't happen. TCU to the SEC? seriously?

(08-30-2011 05:46 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote: [ -> ]What does talking to a school have to do w/ them actually coming? The B12 talked to ND, none of us thought they were coming. I believe that the B1G talked to Maryland, I believe that the SEC talked to UNC and Duke. I also believe that wouldn't get them to move to the SEC. I along w/ most are interested in what can happen, not what won't happen. TCU to the SEC? seriously?

I don't see why TCU to the SEC is that much of a stretch...aren't they a top 10 program lately? Don't they have a newly renovated stadium? Haven't they been better on the field over the last 10 years than TAMU?

(08-30-2011 06:20 PM)Louis Kitton Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-30-2011 05:46 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote: [ -> ]What does talking to a school have to do w/ them actually coming? The B12 talked to ND, none of us thought they were coming. I believe that the B1G talked to Maryland, I believe that the SEC talked to UNC and Duke. I also believe that wouldn't get them to move to the SEC. I along w/ most are interested in what can happen, not what won't happen. TCU to the SEC? seriously?

I don't see why TCU to the SEC is that much of a stretch...aren't they a top 10 program lately? Don't they have a newly renovated stadium? Haven't they been better on the field over the last 10 years than TAMU?

If that was all it took then Boise would be in the Pac over Colorado.

TCU isn't #1 in their own market, they're #3. For starters. FSU a national team even thought they are in state would add more than TCU, so would VT. So would Mizzou, so would WVU.

(08-30-2011 06:25 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote: [ -> ]TCU isn't #1 in their own market, they're #3.

I'd guess #4, behind UT, OU, and A&M in some order. I don't know where Ok St. and TTU would rank.

(08-30-2011 06:20 PM)Louis Kitton Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-30-2011 05:46 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote: [ -> ]What does talking to a school have to do w/ them actually coming? The B12 talked to ND, none of us thought they were coming. I believe that the B1G talked to Maryland, I believe that the SEC talked to UNC and Duke. I also believe that wouldn't get them to move to the SEC. I along w/ most are interested in what can happen, not what won't happen. TCU to the SEC? seriously?

I don't see why TCU to the SEC is that much of a stretch...aren't they a top 10 program lately? Don't they have a newly renovated stadium? Haven't they been better on the field over the last 10 years than TAMU?

It is about tv market delivery and it isn't just what market you are in and it isn't just what ratings you get when winning. The fact is A&M gets the SEC Fort Worth ratings regardless of whether the ags finish 7-5, 5-7, 8-4, or 12-0. TCU can only promise that with 1-3 losses due to size, and the same is true of my school.

TCU has had a great run but several top seasons do not decide this alone. The SEC's fear in inviting a TCU type of program (and the B12s fear in adding Boise) is that they may become like Marshall has in CUSA... a school that was practically unbeaten over several years that contributes little when they fell off after joining.

TCU makes sense for the BE as they:

1- Have no current presence in DFW so every tv set that TCU does deliver is a marginal increase even if that number is small. (Does not apply to SEC w/ Aggy as there are probably as many A&M grads in DFW as there are overall living alumni from TCU)
2- Add a top tier program to a league that perception-wise has lost football credibility. (SEC is ok here with LSU, Bama, Auburn, Florida, etc)
3- Helps weaken the only remote threat to the BE's BCS AQ bid by taking the arguably strongest asset the MWC had to potentially catch up with for their own. Holding on to a BCS bid pays out between 1.2 and 1.8m per school depending on league size as more members = smaller share per school. (SEC not at risk of losing AQ)
4-Add a recruiting base (A&M helps cover this for the SEC)

So how would TCU add to the SEC in light of this over what a WVU, VT, NCST, or other non-footprint team would? It would not make as much sense to invite TCU here in light of this.

I love TCU despite the rivalry and they have done well. I just don't see this making sense.

(08-30-2011 06:31 PM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-30-2011 06:25 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote: [ -> ]TCU isn't #1 in their own market, they're #3.

I'd guess #4, behind UT, OU, and A&M in some order. I don't know where Ok St. and TTU would rank.

I forgot about going out of state.

I won't hold my breath.

I'm sure TCU fans would be totally against an SEC invite because most of them feel the BE is the perfect fit for their program.

I would think TCU would love to pi-- off Texas by bringing the SEC to their backdoor.

I hope that TCU is the 14th program. This would be great for Arkansas. It would give the Hawgs 3 game in Dallas every 2 years not counting bowl games.

(08-30-2011 10:27 PM)hawghiggs Wrote: [ -> ]I hope that TCU is the 14th program. This would be great for Arkansas. It would give the Hawgs 3 game in Dallas every 2 years not counting bowl games.

This is exactly what I'm thinking here.

Arkansas would go for it, TAMU would go for it. Vandy would like another private school in the conference. I see where some TCU to the SEC votes could be had here.

Has Vandy ever said that or are you just assuming that?

TAMU didn't care about them before and I doubt that has changed since.

Arkansas might like it I guess.

Everybody else is not likely especially since I am sure they think they can get better.

(08-30-2011 11:01 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote: [ -> ]Has Vandy ever said that or are you just assuming that?

TAMU didn't care about them before and I doubt that has changed since.

Arkansas might like it I guess.

Everybody else is not likely especially since I am sure they think they can get better.

TAMU tried to convince the SEC to add TCU or SMU as a partner 20 years ago so I doubt they've changed their tune with both schools improving.