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A Solid Plan for the Big East

Okay, so my topic title is somewhat of a lie, it may or may not be solid. But the point is that it is a plan. It has been proposed by bloggers in the past and I jus want to put our opinions here in this one thread about it.

So what if the Big East went two conferences under one banner. Sounds weird right? But think of the possible benefits...

Football Benefits:

1. Add 3 more members
2. Add Championship Game
3. Add creditbility (maybe)
4. Rebuild old rivalries (possibly)
5. More Money

Basketball Benefits:

1. Go to 12
2. Duirng the Conference Basketball Tournament, each division would compete on each side of the braket for the Conference Title (basically each side battles for the title each year)
3. More Money
4. Easier way to bring new football members.

Thoughts?

So wait.....you are proposing adding what 7 more members? 3 more with football and 4 more without football? So are we talking like Xavier, Richmond, VCI and like Old Dominion here?

Solid plan for BE. Nova and done.

I like it.....But not one person in that office is smart enough to even consider it.

Big East Basketball
Depaul
Marquette
Notre Dame
Providence
Seton Hall
St. Johns
Nova
Georgetown
Charlotte**
St. Louis**
Xaiver**
Umass**

All Sports
Uconn
Syracuse
Rutgers
Pitt
WVU
Cincinnati
Louisville
USF
TCU
Memphis**
UCF**
ECU**

Take the top 8 from each division or whatever we will call it for 16 teams in the Big East Basketball tourney just like it is now.

Sign me up.

UCF, USM, Memphis, ECU, SMU, Houston.

Pick three call it a day.

How about the Big East splits. Football schools add Boston College, Maryland, and Memphis. Basketball schools add Duquesne, Saint Bonaventure, Saint Louis, and Xavier. Two separate 12 team conferences. One with all sports, the other with all sports, but football.

(08-26-2011 06:32 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: [ -> ]How about the Big East splits. Football schools add Boston College, Maryland, and Memphis. Basketball schools add Duquesne, Saint Bonaventure, Saint Louis, and Xavier. Two separate 12 team conferences. One with all sports, the other with all sports, but football.

I like this even better, but won't believe BC and Maryland in the BEast until I see it.

Just so everyone knows, the football and basketball schools won't split becuase of money. The TV companies have made it clear that the basketball schools bring presence into major markets. It is clear that while WVU does have D.C. and Baltimore pull in football, Georgetown makes the BE name even more popular becuase it is there. While as an individual team, teams like Depaul, Marquette, and Seton Hall may not do much, they spread the Big East Marketability as a conference, something no other conference does like us.

yep and why Nova actually makes sense but shhhhh CUSA team fans don't like hearing that.

Adding Nova does make sense that's why the BE should do it.

if it was up to me, and I was going to do some kind of 2 leagues affiliated under one umbrella thing, it would be a 12 team football league, and then two 10 team basketball leagues, with the football teams split amongst them.

Nova is actually a gem to do what they do with no major level football. I think that if their stadium plan was any different or their commitment seemed more like "we want to be BCS football" instead of "we want BCS football to protect basketball' their opponents would dwindle.

(08-26-2011 06:32 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: [ -> ]How about the Big East splits. Football schools add Boston College, Maryland, and Memphis. Basketball schools add Duquesne, Saint Bonaventure, Saint Louis, and Xavier. Two separate 12 team conferences. One with all sports, the other with all sports, but football.

To bad your Orange will never okay that and neither will UConn

(08-26-2011 05:52 PM)cardshouse Wrote: [ -> ]I like it.....But not one person in that office is smart enough to even consider it.

Big East Basketball
Depaul
Marquette
Notre Dame
Providence
Seton Hall
St. Johns
Nova
Georgetown
Charlotte**
St. Louis**
Xaiver**
Umass**

All Sports
Uconn
Syracuse
Rutgers
Pitt
WVU
Cincinnati
Louisville
USF
TCU
Memphis**
UCF**
ECU**

Take the top 8 from each division or whatever we will call it for 16 teams in the Big East Basketball tourney just like it is now.

I like it. I would rather Houston U. instead of Memphis in the all-sports div., but I like your plan and thinking. The problem is I don't think the BE mgmt. team has a plan. Mr.P3242

(08-26-2011 06:32 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: [ -> ]How about the Big East splits. Football schools add Boston College, Maryland, and Memphis. Basketball schools add Duquesne, Saint Bonaventure, Saint Louis, and Xavier. Two separate 12 team conferences. One with all sports, the other with all sports, but football.

Duquesne? Bona? Are you kidding? What, did someone pass on Niagara?

That's about as practical as the football schools adding Florida Atlantic and Troy State.

(08-26-2011 05:52 PM)cardshouse Wrote: [ -> ]I like it.....But not one person in that office is smart enough to even consider it.

Big East Basketball
Depaul
Marquette
Notre Dame
Providence
Seton Hall
St. Johns
Nova
Georgetown
Charlotte**
St. Louis**
Xaiver**
Umass**

All Sports
Uconn
Syracuse
Rutgers
Pitt
WVU
Cincinnati
Louisville
USF
TCU
Memphis**
UCF**
ECU**

Take the top 8 from each division or whatever we will call it for 16 teams in the Big East Basketball tourney just like it is now.

What is the advantage to adding those 3? I would bet money that Pitt, WVU and Rutgers would say NFW to that. I also would bet that UL, UC and USF would not care for adding those 3 either, with USF likely being the strongest objection out the 2nd group of 3. Maybe I've misread USF completely, but I think they are the one school that has truly turned their back on their former CUSA partners for good and they never had strong connections to CUSA in the first place. They've moved on and so should UL and UC fans. You're BE schools now. Why pine for CUSA schools to come into the BE when there are serious chances of picking up better schools?

(08-26-2011 08:19 PM)New York Bull Wrote: [ -> ]yep and why Nova actually makes sense but shhhhh CUSA team fans don't like hearing that.

One BCS Commissioner wanted to invite this football program to join their BCS Football Conf:



While another BCS Commissioner wants to invite this football program to join their BCS Football Conf:




I think one of them get's it...and the other does not.

(08-27-2011 09:22 AM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]What is the advantage to adding those 3? I would bet money that Pitt, WVU and Rutgers would say NFW to that. I also would bet that UL, UC and USF would not care for adding those 3 either, with USF likely being the strongest objection out the 2nd group of 3. Maybe I've misread USF completely, but I think they are the one school that has truly turned their back on their former CUSA partners for good and they never had strong connections to CUSA in the first place. They've moved on and so should UL and UC fans. You're BE schools now. Why pine for CUSA schools to come into the BE when there are serious chances of picking up better schools?

The old C-USA was a far better league than some of you traditional Big East fans like to make it out to be. The truth is that schools like TCU and ECU were just as good if not better conference mates than most Big East teams are.

The problem lies in the perception. Perception tells you that Pitt and Syracuse are much stronger programs due to history and tradition. But really they aren't any different then the the previous schools mentioned. This issue isn't unimportant though. PERCEPTION IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE FACING THE BIG EAST, and I would agree that by adding schools like ECU and UCF we add to that problem we already have.

We were happy to get away from the Tulane's and UAB's that were entirely unsupported. But we recognize that some of those schools like TCU and ECU were just as deserving of being AQ as any other Big East school.