A post on the Memphis board says there is a teleconfernce today and that an announcement will be made by the end of the week.
I think it's most likely going to be Big East vs. SEC. However, I think there's the slight possibility of a deal similar to the Sun and Gator Bowls whereby Liberty Bowl picks C-USA 2 out of 4 years and Big East the other 2 out of 4 years. Simply conjecture on my part.
3601 Wrote:A post on the Memphis board says there is a teleconfernce today and that an announcement will be made by the end of the week.
I think it's most likely going to be Big East vs. SEC. However, I think there's the slight possibility of a deal similar to the Sun and Gator Bowls whereby Liberty Bowl picks C-USA 2 out of 4 years and Big East the other 2 out of 4 years. Simply conjecture on my part.
If anything it would make more sense that the Big East be the constant for the bowl being that the SEC has plainly stated that they will not face a non-bcs foe in a post season game. That said a rotation of the SEC and CUSA seems highly unlikely to me.
L-yes Wrote:3601 Wrote:A post on the Memphis board says there is a teleconfernce today and that an announcement will be made by the end of the week.
I think it's most likely going to be Big East vs. SEC. However, I think there's the slight possibility of a deal similar to the Sun and Gator Bowls whereby Liberty Bowl picks C-USA 2 out of 4 years and Big East the other 2 out of 4 years. Simply conjecture on my part.
If anything it would make more sense that the Big East be the constant for the bowl being that the SEC has plainly stated that they will not face a non-bcs foe in a post season game. That said a rotation of the SEC and CUSA seems highly unlikely to me.
I think I said pretty much the same thing. No wonder y'all dropped to Tier 4.
Most likely = make more sense
Slight possibility = highly unlikely
3601 Wrote:L-yes Wrote:3601 Wrote:A post on the Memphis board says there is a teleconfernce today and that an announcement will be made by the end of the week.
I think it's most likely going to be Big East vs. SEC. However, I think there's the slight possibility of a deal similar to the Sun and Gator Bowls whereby Liberty Bowl picks C-USA 2 out of 4 years and Big East the other 2 out of 4 years. Simply conjecture on my part.
If anything it would make more sense that the Big East be the constant for the bowl being that the SEC has plainly stated that they will not face a non-bcs foe in a post season game. That said a rotation of the SEC and CUSA seems highly unlikely to me.
I think I said pretty much the same thing. No wonder y'all dropped to Tier 4.
Most likely = make more sense
Slight possibility = highly unlikely
He was just disagreeing with your personal idea. As for your last comment, if I remember correctly you're still over 30 spots behind Louisville in the rankings!
3601 Wrote:L-yes Wrote:3601 Wrote:A post on the Memphis board says there is a teleconfernce today and that an announcement will be made by the end of the week.
I think it's most likely going to be Big East vs. SEC. However, I think there's the slight possibility of a deal similar to the Sun and Gator Bowls whereby Liberty Bowl picks C-USA 2 out of 4 years and Big East the other 2 out of 4 years. Simply conjecture on my part.
If anything it would make more sense that the Big East be the constant for the bowl being that the SEC has plainly stated that they will not face a non-bcs foe in a post season game. That said a rotation of the SEC and CUSA seems highly unlikely to me.
I think I said pretty much the same thing.
No you didn't.
As collegecard noted its no wonder that you all are looking ahead at our arse end in academics as well.
I think I read somewhere that the Houston Bowl is waiting on the Liberty Bowl. If the Liberty goes with SEC vs. Big East, then Houston will go with Big 12 vs. CUSA. If the Liberty goes with SEC vs. CUSA, then I guess Houston's best alternative must be Big 12 vs. Big East. If not, a smaller league ends up with a nice payday. Are the options listed below the most likely ones to happen?
Liberty = SEC vs. Big East ... Houston = Big 12 vs. CUSA.
Liberty = SEC vs. CUSA ... Houston = Big 12 vs. Big East.
Liberty = Big East vs. CUSA ... Houston = Big 12 vs. SEC.
I don't know what the Liberty is going to do. I think it looks much better for CUSA than it did last week. The BE vs SEC would have been the quick easy announcement. It seems that local civic pressure may be having some effect, we'll see. CUSA will be in the Houston bowl no matter what. Its just a matter of whether they get the first or second pick.
I said that I think that there is a SLIGHT POSSIBILITY. If something is only slightly possible that makes it highly unlikely. I'd hate to see some of your ACT reading comprehension scores.
I wasn't arguing with you 3601. I simply stated my own view. I have no idea what the Liberty bowl is going to do, its just a hunch.
I am more sure of what the Houston bowl is doing because I live here. We'll see.
I'm sure he was referring to the UL fans.
TopCoog Wrote:I don't know what the Liberty is going to do. I think it looks much better for CUSA than it did last week. The BE vs SEC would have been the quick easy announcement. It seems that local civic pressure may be having some effect, we'll see. CUSA will be in the Houston bowl no matter what. Its just a matter of whether they get the first or second pick.
If you are right, does that mean the only possibilities are ...
Liberty = SEC vs. Big East ... Houston = Big 12 vs. CUSA.
Liberty = SEC vs. CUSA ... Houston = Big 12 vs. CUSA.
Liberty = Big East vs. CUSA ... Houston = Big 12 vs. CUSA.
Option 2 would suck for the Big East but be great for CUSA.
Option 3 would suck for the SEC but be large for CUSA, too.
krocker, these bowl sharing deals seem to be popular now so you may have something there.
We know that the CUSA problem in the Liberty was created by the fact that the sec does not want to play them.
The Liberty first choice would be CUSA vs SEC.
Lets say the Liberty says that CUSA is in the bowl no matter what, does the SEC play or back out? I think that depends on what other choices they have on the board.
Would a bowl sharing deal appease the sec.....it might. In other words, they tell the sec that cusa will be in the bowl but only half the time. That would mean that CUSA and the Big East would swap the Liberty and Houston every other year.
Next point, would Houston like that? What if the Houston bowl could get Houston and 30,000 Houston fans but they have to take Syracuse who would bring only 10,000?
Is Memphis going to be sent to Houston instead of playing in the Liberty?
Sounds like a real mess to me.
3601 Wrote:I said that I think that there is a SLIGHT POSSIBILITY. If something is only slightly possible that makes it highly unlikely. I'd hate to see some of your ACT reading comprehension scores.
You arent making any sense.
Lets make this simple.
Where in your post did you say that the Big East would be a more likely constant presence in the bowl as opposed to having the SEC as a host playing the Big East and CUSA on a rotating basis?
:wave:
3601 Wrote:I said that I think that there is a SLIGHT POSSIBILITY. If something is only slightly possible that makes it highly unlikely. I'd hate to see some of your ACT reading comprehension scores.
I don't expect you to believe it since this is the internet and all. That said, I'm LMAO at you and that comment since that was my highest section.
34...there, it's out there. What next? :stupid:
Your idea actually isn't that bad, TopCoog. Let's suppose the SEC always anchors the Liberty Bowl and the Big 12 always anchors the Houston Bowl. Then the Big East and CUSA rotate between those two bowls. We would end up with the following arrangement ...
2006: Liberty = SEC vs. Big East ... Houston = Big 12 vs. CUSA.
2007: Liberty = SEC vs. CUSA ... Houston = Big 12 vs. Big East.
2008: Liberty = SEC vs. Big East ... Houston = Big 12 vs. CUSA.
2009: Liberty = SEC vs. CUSA ... Houston = Big 12 vs. Big East.
I think those two bowls would be smart enough to accomodate each other if Memphis or Houston become eligible for their hometown bowl. The SEC will always supply plenty of fans for the Liberty and the Big 12 for Houston, so other teams should not be an issue.
You know that really isn't a bad deal. It seems to address some of everyone objections plus we all have a bigger variety of bowls to go to.
Anybody else have any opinions on that rotation? Maybe we should all send e-mails to Mike Tranghese, Britton Banowsky, Mike Slive, Kevin Weiberg, and the directors of the two bowls. Then they can have the whole thing wrapped up in less than a week. Gosh. Why didn't the professionals think of this?
[QUOTE]Next point, would Houston like that? What if the Houston bowl could get Houston and 30,000 Houston fans but they have to take Syracuse who would bring only 10,000?
[QUOTE] from topcoog
Does Houston even average 30,000 fans during the regular season?
CollegeCard Wrote:3601 Wrote:I said that I think that there is a SLIGHT POSSIBILITY. If something is only slightly possible that makes it highly unlikely. I'd hate to see some of your ACT reading comprehension scores.
I don't expect you to believe it since this is the internet and all. That said, I'm LMAO at you and that comment since that was my highest section.
34...there, it's out there. What next? :stupid:
You're right. I don't believe you.
L-yes Wrote:3601 Wrote:I said that I think that there is a SLIGHT POSSIBILITY. If something is only slightly possible that makes it highly unlikely. I'd hate to see some of your ACT reading comprehension scores.
Where in your post did you say that the Big East would be a more likely constant presence in the bowl as opposed to having the SEC as a host playing the Big East and CUSA on a rotating basis?
I didn't.
It's common knowledge that the Liberty Bowl wants C-USA vs. SEC.
It's also common knowledge that it's only a few schools in the SEC that are opposed to such a setup.
The reasoning behind the SEC vs C-USA/Big East would be that the Liberty Bowl would select a Big East school in those years during which one of the "cowardly" SEC schools is playing in the Liberty Bowl. In other years that an SEC school with a backbone is in the Liberty Bowl they will play a C-USA opponent.
Let me clearly say that I think this is a longshot, but a possibility. The reasons that I think it might be a slight possibility are....
1. Liberty Bowl really wants C-USA vs SEC
2. I've been told by the President of AutoZone (I used to work with the guy) that they are pulling as many strings as possible to work a deal (He didn't get into specifics)
3. I think if it were a simple SEC vs. Big East that they might have made the decison a long time ago. I think a possible reason that the negotiations are taking so long is because they are trying to come up with some "shared" scenario similar to the Gator and Sun Bowls
4. The Big East is already doing this with the Gator and Sun so there is definitely some precident
All of that being said, will I be surprised if they announce on Friday that it's Big East vs. SEC? No. I've also said all along that they might be intentionally delaying the decision until just before football season in order to avoid a lot of negative press in Memphis. Once football season starts press coverage regarding bowl negotiations will take an immediate backseat to actual games.