With the demise of the LHN appearing to be inevitable, it is only a matter of time before UT gets the urge to leave the BigXII once and for all. This time around, I don't think UT has any desire to keep the conference together. All of the incentive to stick around - the sweet windfall that the LHN was supposed to provide - will be gone. In order for UT not to look like the bad guys, I expect them to sit back and whip aTm into a frenzy to rip the conference apart. UT will then shrug their shoulders, declare the LHN dead, and go off to the Pac12 with a handful of other teams. This time, Texas politics will not be an issue provided that Texas Tech rides either aTm's or UT's coattails to the PAC or the SEC. Baylor no longer has the political clout to stop any of this. My 2 cents on the issue.
UT is getting paid 15m per year and ESPN is assuming all the risk. ESPN didn't bank on the LHN relying on HS games, it will be fine IMO but their asking price may have to come down a wee bit.
(07-27-2011 06:31 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]With the demise of the LHN appearing to be inevitable, it is only a matter of time before UT gets the urge to leave the BigXII once and for all. This time around, I don't think UT has any desire to keep the conference together. All of the incentive to stick around - the sweet windfall that the LHN was supposed to provide - will be gone. In order for UT not to look like the bad guys, I expect them to sit back and whip aTm into a frenzy to rip the conference apart. UT will then shrug their shoulders, declare the LHN dead, and go off to the Pac12 with a handful of other teams. This time, Texas politics will not be an issue provided that Texas Tech rides either aTm's or UT's coattails to the PAC or the SEC. Baylor no longer has the political clout to stop any of this. My 2 cents on the issue.
I can see it happening this way
I think that the Pac 12 will be the first 16 team conference-Texas, Tech, Oklahoma and Okie State joining up
A&M to SEC
maybe the BE football schools joining up with the rest of the Big 12 schools
(07-27-2011 06:31 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]With the demise of the LHN appearing to be inevitable, it is only a matter of time before UT gets the urge to leave the BigXII once and for all. This time around, I don't think UT has any desire to keep the conference together. All of the incentive to stick around - the sweet windfall that the LHN was supposed to provide - will be gone. In order for UT not to look like the bad guys, I expect them to sit back and whip aTm into a frenzy to rip the conference apart. UT will then shrug their shoulders, declare the LHN dead, and go off to the Pac12 with a handful of other teams. This time, Texas politics will not be an issue provided that Texas Tech rides either aTm's or UT's coattails to the PAC or the SEC. Baylor no longer has the political clout to stop any of this. My 2 cents on the issue.
I think your jumping the gun here. The LHN isn't going anywhere. In fact the Pac-12 is getting ready to launch around 8 channels. The LHN signed a deal last week with it's first highschools to air their games. Brenham High School (my alma mater) vs. Lamar Consolidated on Sept. 1st is the first scheduled High School game to sign a contract to air on the network. If the LHN is able to air High School games, the Pac 12 has said that they will as well. The Big 10, and the SEC network is also looking on to see what they will be able to get away with. Soon, we will all be watching local High School sports on the college and conference networks. This isn't going away anytime ever.
If anything goes down (remember how anti-climactic last summer was?) this is probably how it will occur. $30M TV revenue in the PAC-12 is a nice chunk of change, plus whatever added value UT and X, or X, Y, and Z would add to annual pay out per school. What a consolation prize!
I can see that happening too. Thats just like Texas to wave their wand that way, to use others pubically for themselves, while talking to Pac in meantime.
I wonder if this new Pac 12 National/Regional setup attracts a team like Texas...it just might. It might be the framework to let the super large programs to have their LHN's. I'm not sure, maybe Frank, Mattarz, or somebody else can simplify the new deal they just announced.
As for Big East, I'm not sure Marinatto saw any of this coming, but patience could bring some quality BCS schools to the league, in KU/KSU but not sure if Mizzou would be in that group or not.
Politics was never the reason for Texas turning down the Pac-10, they could have been, and still could be, in the Pac-10/12 now if they wanted to. What stopped them is the fact that they don't want a huge Texas school in the SEC. Texas or A&M in the SEC gives the gives the SEC major access to Texas.
Sorry to break it to The Big East Doomsdayers here but Texas ain't going to The PAC. That means A&M won't be going to The SEC.
Looks like super conferences are dead before they got started...again.
CJ
"I think you could certainly imply that, with the news that we're going to announce tonight," Scott told the newspaper. "The Longhorn Network would be certainly a huge impediment."
Read it Here for Yourself
(07-27-2011 06:58 PM)CardinalJim Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry to break it to The Big East Doomsdayers here but Texas ain't going to The PAC. That means A&M won't be going to The SEC. Looks like super conferences are dead before they got started...again.
CJ
"I think you could certainly imply that, with the news that we're going to announce tonight," Scott told the newspaper. "The Longhorn Network would be certainly a huge impediment."
Read it Here for Yourself
Ahh you wise UL fan showing us some truth syrum about Texas/LHN.
ND vs Texas vs BYU vs ??? in new Independent Conference.
The one thing I'm confused about is who does the Pac 12 take to get to 16 if Texas and possibly Oklahoma isn't involved. Baylor, Texas Tech, Oklahoma St. and ??? doesn't excite me as much.
Edit...
At the end of the day I think we're heading to 5-14 with Notre Dame, Texas, BYU, Air Force, Army, and Navy as the Major Indy's.
(07-27-2011 07:17 PM)Joey_Niklas Wrote: [ -> ]The one thing I'm confused about is who does the Pac 12 take to get to 16 if Texas and possibly Oklahoma isn't involved. Baylor, Texas Tech, Oklahoma St. and ??? doesn't excite me as much.
Edit...
At the end of the day I think we're heading to 5-14 with Notre Dame, Texas, BYU, Air Force, Army, and Navy as the Major Indy's.
Well, while we're just throwing out ideas here...
Suppose UT goes indy and doesn't have a conference limiting what they can do with Longhorn Network. A&M hates that UT will have its own network. A&M thinks (probably correctly) that they don't have the juice to start an Aggie Network and get it on basic cable statewide.
What could A&M get for itself that would be almost as good?
Today the Pac-12 announced that each pair of schools will have its own regional Pac-12 network with lots of local content in addition to all the national football and men's hoops games. Lots of opportunity for Cal and Stanford to get their own content on the Bay Area network, for UW and Wazzu to get their own content on the Washington network, etc.
So how about an A&M/Tech regional network in the Pac-14/16 on every cable system in Texas?
(07-27-2011 06:58 PM)CardinalJim Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry to break it to The Big East Doomsdayers here but Texas ain't going to The PAC. That means A&M won't be going to The SEC. Looks like super conferences are dead before they got started...again.
CJ
"I think you could certainly imply that, with the news that we're going to announce tonight," Scott told the newspaper. "The Longhorn Network would be certainly a huge impediment."
Read it Here for Yourself
Correction...UT is not going to the PAC as of now due to the LHN. Considering the fact that the LHN will not be the financial boon that UT thought it would be, it can quite easily decide to walk away from it completely in favor of joining up with the PAC and its new multi-channel network. UT would make more money in the PAC - especially if you also factor in that aTm and OU are looking for more money to be thrown their way because of the LHN. UT's cash cow is starting to look a little leaner and will likely not be showing HS FB games due to the current objections already voiced by aTm, OU and practically every other BigXII school.
Your assumption may not be correct...
