What are your minimum expectations for Football/Men's hoops?
For me:
Football 7-5 and lame bowl game
Basketball: finish top half BE/Top 25/NCAA
Football: My minimum and maximum expectations are about the same: 6-6. This is just not a very good defensive roster.
Can't really comment on basketball till I see the way the schedule lays out.
Minimum for football 6-6, Maximum 10-2
Minimum for Basketball: Make a postseason tourney; Maximum: Win whichever postseason tourney you make
(07-24-2011 08:13 PM)chicago bearcat Wrote: [ -> ]Minimum for football 6-6, Maximum 10-2
Minimum for Basketball: Make a postseason tourney; Maximum: Win whichever postseason tourney you make
Any postseason tourney is not the minimum. Making the NCAA tourney is the minimum.
Minimum for Football...8-4...3rd in the Big East. Yes, I realize I may be overly optimistic, but if they can cut down on the T.O's and give Zach some time and Pead some room, they can outscore a lot of people. Just like the 2009 team....they may be able to win in spite of the D.
Basketball...at the very least, I expect them to get to the NCAA tournament.
(07-24-2011 08:23 PM)subflea Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2011 08:13 PM)chicago bearcat Wrote: [ -> ]Minimum for football 6-6, Maximum 10-2
Minimum for Basketball: Make a postseason tourney; Maximum: Win whichever postseason tourney you make
Any postseason tourney is not the minimum. Making the NCAA tourney is the minimum.
Hard to argue with that. I was going to put NCAA as minimum but Im factoring in a catastrophic injury for minimum (Yancy, Cash, etc)
(07-24-2011 08:56 PM)chicago bearcat Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2011 08:23 PM)subflea Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2011 08:13 PM)chicago bearcat Wrote: [ -> ]Minimum for football 6-6, Maximum 10-2
Minimum for Basketball: Make a postseason tourney; Maximum: Win whichever postseason tourney you make
Any postseason tourney is not the minimum. Making the NCAA tourney is the minimum.
Hard to argue with that. I was going to put NCAA as minimum but Im factoring in a catastrophic injury for minimum (Yancy, Cash, etc)
good Lord dude...don't speak that into reality!
Football 7-5, or 6-6 with bowl win.
BBall, NCAA tournament.
I really have no idea what to expect from the football team. I honestly thought they would be pretty good last year. I couldn't have been more wrong. Definitely not sold on Butch Jones.
I think making the tournament is pretty easy baseline expectation for the basketball team. I think they will be quite a bit better than that though. Definitely some wild cards though.
Hard to set the minimum for basketball any higher than making the tournament. Post season success is such a crap shoot depending on matchups. Hell, even predicting finish in the Big East can be a crap shoot. I mean a team that finished in the bottom half of the conference won a National Championship.
Football - get me to basketball season
Basketball - finish in BE top half, NCAA tournament, and stop the in-fighting among the fan base
football minimum: 6-6, football maximum: 7-5
basketball minimum: ncaa tournament, basketball maximum: sweet sixteen
(07-24-2011 10:31 PM)Bearcat04 Wrote: [ -> ]...and stop the in-fighting among the fan base
Good luck with that one.
Football: 8-4
Basketball: improvement on last year's record as well as return to the NC2A Tournament.
Football: 8-4, but I'd be grudgingly fine with 7-5 after last year. If you outgain opponents on average (like we did last year), you'll win more than you lose, even with a 0 turnover margin.
Basketball: NCAA tournament - not even up for debate. Top six in the BE.
Football
Min: 6-6
Max: 8-4
Basketball
Min: Top-8 in BEast, 5-7 Seed in NCAA's
Max: Top-4 in BEast, 2-4 Seed in NCAA's
Football 8-4, you go 4-1 OOC, probable loss at UT. Then you go 4-3 in Big East play.
Basketball, hopefully ranked pre season, finish in the upper half of the Big East, 4-5 seed.
Regarding football, here's what Mopper thinks. I seldom argue with him on all matters pertaining to UC football:
http://www.downthedrive.com/2011/7/22/22...ing-ballot
In conjunction with the Big East Blogger All Conference team each of the 8 SB Nation Big East sites has been asked to formulate a ranking of all the teams heading into the fall camp. The whole lot of them will be collected by Big East Coast Bias, tabulated and published later this afternoon. Here are my picks and the reasoning behind them.
1) West Virginia
Even with all of the drama that has enveloped Morgantown this off season I can't think of a reason not to pick them at the top of the conference. They bring back a good deal of talent and experience on the defensive side of the ball. There is no way that this defense replicates the feats of last years group. But they won't have to because the offense will be much improved under Dana Holgorsen who is basically the King Midas of offensive coordinators.
2) South Florida
I might be falling into a trap here. I know it is very foolish to banking on a USF QB to progress from one year to the next. It seems like Matt Grothe never did and B.J. Daniels didn't last year. But this pick is about the defense which I think might end up being the best in the conference when all is said and done.
3) Cincinnati
UC is going to bounce back big time. The depth is better this year, the defensive line should be one of the best in the conference. That should dramatically effect the entire defense in a positive way. The offense will put up yards and points in bunches and if Zach Collaros can keep the turnovers in check this team can win 9 games.
4) Pitt
I don't trust Todd Graham. That's all this really comes down to. Todd Graham had a great run at Tulsa, he hired some great coordinators and really lit up the score board. But I don't know if he can handle this job. On pure talent this is probably the 2nd best team in the conference, but I don't think there is a chance they finish there.
5) Syracuse
I am taking a flier on Doug Marrone. Syracuse has been built back up and as far as I can tell it is imminently sustainable. There is massive turnover on the defensive side of the ball and odds are they won't be anywhere near as stout as they were last year, but they still should be good, particularly against the run. The ball control offense is back, though I imagine that things will be opened up a little bit more for Ryan Nassib in his Senior season. I have a hard time thinking this team won't go bowling again.
6) UConn
I can't explain why but I think this Paul Pasqualoni thing is going to work out. The offense will be a bit of a mess, as always. But the defense should be there. They might end up going 6-6 but a bowl is a bowl.
7) Louisville
Ultimately the attrition will be too much to bear. The Cards relied on one of the deepest senior classes in the country last year to make the season a success. This year they have to start over again. While there is talent there, and a lot of it, it is wrapped up in younger guys for the first part. Younger guys who will be starting and playing big minutes for the first time. In a couple of years those young guys will be the nucleus of teams that will contend for the conference crown. But right now they will take their lumps.
8) Rutgers
They have a ways to go. In Savon Huggins and Chas Dodd they have a good 1-2 punch for the future but in the present there are major issues. Everywhere. This all comes down to the offensive line because the defense is always at the very least solid under Schiano. But last years line was the worst on record, not just for Rutgers, but nationally for the last decade. That's not getting better in one offseason.
I think UC can win 8,9, or 10 games as well but a lot things need go the way things did during the BK era. Butch did win a bunch of games at CMU but last year was a mess.
The NCAA tournament is crazy. As long as your in it you can do great things. Look at VCU, Butler, Pitt, Ohio State, and UConn from last season. Great seasons don't equal great post-seasons.
Football--
Another Orange Bowl Berth
Basketball--
Elite 8 NCAA
meet those expectations and the $$ problems at the AD will evaporate..