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Since numerous Toledo fans have been trolling the NIU board lately and talking crap, I just wanted to set the NIU Football versus Toledo Football record straight.

According to the College Football Data Warehouse's All Time Ranking:

NIU - 154th
Toledo - 156th

The ranking analyzed the programs all time history wins, losses, championships etc. http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div...nkings.php

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div...nkings.php

Undefeated Seasons:

NIU - 6 1899, 1904, 1914, 1944, 1951 and 1963
Toledo - 4 1969, 1970, 1971 and 1995

National Championships:

NIU - 1 1963
Toledo - 0

Winning Seasons:

NIU - 52
Toledo - 44

All Americans:

NIU - 76
Toledo - 25

http://www.niuhuskies.com/sports/m-footb...ntury.html
http://www.utrockets.com/fls/18000/Media...#/8/zoomed

Bowl Appearances:

NIU - 11 4-7 One National Championship Game 1963
Toledo - 11 7-4 including a game loss but later forfeit.

Vern Smith Awards (MAC MVP)

NIU - 5 Tim Tyrrell 1983, Garrett Wolfe 2006, Larry English 2007 & 2008, Chad Spann 2010
Toledo - 2 Wasean Tait 1995, Bruce Gradkowski 2005

Victory Against a BCS Conference:

NIU - 5 ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12, SEC
Toledo - 4 Big East, Big 10, Big 12, PAC 10* * By Forfeit 49-0 Toledo regular season loss

Greatest Coach in Program:
NIU - George Chick Evans 131-70-20
Toledo - Gary Pinkel 73-37-3

Hey troll boy- I guess NIU has a decent football history if you want to include the DIV II games prior to 1973. However, NIU only comes close to UT when you do include all the games against the "little" guys like Missouri State, Drake, etc. I am almost LMFAO that this NIU guy is trying to feel good about NIU's DII football history!!!!!!!!!!! So funny but also kind of sad and pathetic!

There is no comparison between UT and NIU when one only reviews the DI record.

Case closed -UT is far better in wins, bowl appearances and wins, etc. when taking into account real competition at DI. UT's history in football is richer and has been played at a much higher level for a much longer time than NIU.

Nice try but I can see through your efforts. Hey, Mount Union also has an awesome record too and they have been in far more post season games than UT but once again not at the DI level.

You NIU fans are groping for something to feel good about and this was a feeble effort from a feeble mind. Get your facts right before coming to this board otherwise we'll spank your sweaty NIU arse right off the board!

Go Rockets!

Northern Illinois will be among the worst defensive teams in the conference. That's a tough prediction considering the Huskies were 26th nationally in total defense scoring defense and 14th in scoring D, best in the league. But NIU lost six of its top seven tacklers, and is down to two returning starters after Devon Butler (victim of a nonfatal gunshot), Tyrone Clark (personal reasons) and Tracy Wilson (pursuing pro ball) all left the team in the spring. While there is some talent with the players filling in, it's going to be a struggle to come anywhere near last year's numbers

(07-18-2011 06:27 PM)IamN2daRockets Wrote: [ -> ]Hey troll boy- I guess NIU has a decent football history if you want to include the DIV II games prior to 1973. However, NIU only comes close to UT when you do include all the games against the "little" guys like Missouri State, Drake, etc. I am almost LMFAO that this NIU guy is trying to feel good about NIU's DII football history!!!!!!!!!!! So funny but also kind of sad and pathetic!

There is no comparison between UT and NIU when one only reviews the DI record.

Case closed -UT is far better in wins, bowl appearances and wins, etc. when taking into account real competition at DI. UT's history in football is richer and has been played at a much higher level for a much longer time than NIU.

Nice try but I can see through your efforts. Hey, Mount Union also has an awesome record too and they have been in far more post season games than UT but once again not at the DI level.

You NIU fans are groping for something to feel good about and this was a feeble effort from a feeble mind. Get your facts right before coming to this board otherwise we'll spank your sweaty NIU arse right off the board!

Go Rockets!

I guess the NCAA is wrong? They run the Data Warehouse. If Toledo is so great why are they ranked lower than a Div 2 school? Go sulk and collect your welfare check you Toledo loser!

(07-18-2011 06:35 PM)Kevin S Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-18-2011 06:27 PM)IamN2daRockets Wrote: [ -> ]Hey troll boy- I guess NIU has a decent football history if you want to include the DIV II games prior to 1973. However, NIU only comes close to UT when you do include all the games against the "little" guys like Missouri State, Drake, etc. I am almost LMFAO that this NIU guy is trying to feel good about NIU's DII football history!!!!!!!!!!! So funny but also kind of sad and pathetic!

There is no comparison between UT and NIU when one only reviews the DI record.

Case closed -UT is far better in wins, bowl appearances and wins, etc. when taking into account real competition at DI. UT's history in football is richer and has been played at a much higher level for a much longer time than NIU.

Nice try but I can see through your efforts. Hey, Mount Union also has an awesome record too and they have been in far more post season games than UT but once again not at the DI level.

You NIU fans are groping for something to feel good about and this was a feeble effort from a feeble mind. Get your facts right before coming to this board otherwise we'll spank your sweaty NIU arse right off the board!

Go Rockets!

I guess the NCAA is wrong? They run the Data Warehouse. If Toledo is so great why are they ranked lower than a Div 2 school? Go sulk and collect your welfare check you Toledo loser!

1899 thru 1963????

Kevin S = classic troll

classic troll = talking about things that you have no knowledge about.

talking about things that you have no knowledge about = getting laughed at on the Launch Pad!!!!!

;-)

(07-18-2011 06:57 PM)IamN2daRockets Wrote: [ -> ]Kevin S = classic troll

classic troll = talking about things that you have no knowledge about.

talking about things that you have no knowledge about = getting laughed at on the Launch Pad!!!!!

;-)

Why is NIU ranked higher on the Data Warehouse (NCAA Stat Board) and why does NIU have 76 All Americans and Toledo only have 25?

One last thing, Keep all the Toledo Trolls off of our board!

Kevin's back-side is pretty ugly. The reason I know this is that's all I can see since he's leaving this site with his tail between his legs!!!

Go Rockets!

There were no Championship games or play-offs when NIU split the small school crown with Delaware in 1963 because the UPI and AP polls were divided. To give some idea of the significance of this title, Wittenberg was Co-Champs the next year with Los Angeles State. Go Tigers

Several MAC schools can make the national title claim like NIU they are:
CMU(2)
BGSU
Ohio U
NIU
Akron(runner-up)
Ball State(top 4)

(07-18-2011 07:07 PM)Kevin S Wrote: [ -> ]Why is NIU ranked higher on the Data Warehouse (NCAA Stat Board) and why does NIU have 76 All Americans and Toledo only have 25?

One last thing, Keep all the Toledo Trolls off of our board!

Because they were in D2/1AA.

I looked something else up.

For 2000-2009, Dayton was ranked 84th; Toledo was 103; NIU 110. Does that mean Dayton was better than UT and NIU?!? HELL NO!!! Dayton doesn't give out scholarships - they are a glorified D3 team, they are 1AA by name only just so that they can be D1 in basketball.

Nice try. Better luck next time.

(07-18-2011 07:59 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote: [ -> ]I looked something else up.

For 2000-2009, Dayton was ranked 84th; Toledo was 103; NIU 110. Does that mean Dayton was better than UT and NIU?!? HELL NO!!! Dayton doesn't give out scholarships - they are a glorified D3 team, they are 1AA by name only just so that they can be D1 in basketball.

Nice try. Better luck next time.

Life is a box of chocolates for NIU fans.

(07-18-2011 06:15 PM)Kevin S Wrote: [ -> ]Since numerous Toledo fans have been trolling the NIU board lately and talking crap,...

:moon2:

(07-18-2011 07:13 PM)IamN2daRockets Wrote: [ -> ]Kevin's back-side is pretty ugly. The reason I know this is that's all I can see since he's leaving this site with his tail between his legs!!!

Go Rockets!

You check out guys backsides? Fruitcup!

(07-18-2011 08:02 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-18-2011 07:59 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote: [ -> ]I looked something else up.

For 2000-2009, Dayton was ranked 84th; Toledo was 103; NIU 110. Does that mean Dayton was better than UT and NIU?!? HELL NO!!! Dayton doesn't give out scholarships - they are a glorified D3 team, they are 1AA by name only just so that they can be D1 in basketball.

Nice try. Better luck next time.

Life is a box of chocolates for NIU fans.

Life is a sad regret for you. Stay off of our board!

(07-18-2011 09:47 PM)Kevin S Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-18-2011 08:02 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-18-2011 07:59 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote: [ -> ]I looked something else up.

For 2000-2009, Dayton was ranked 84th; Toledo was 103; NIU 110. Does that mean Dayton was better than UT and NIU?!? HELL NO!!! Dayton doesn't give out scholarships - they are a glorified D3 team, they are 1AA by name only just so that they can be D1 in basketball.

Nice try. Better luck next time.

Life is a box of chocolates for NIU fans.

Life is a sad regret for you. Stay off of our board!

May the Lord grant you peace.

Seems like an easy way to settle this would be to compare head-to-head records. Hey, Kev-maybe you could look it up in your warehouse book or whatever-but be careful....its REALLLLLLY ugly.

(07-19-2011 05:40 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]Seems like an easy way to settle this would be to compare head-to-head records. Hey, Kev-maybe you could look it up in your warehouse book or whatever-but be careful....its REALLLLLLY ugly.

Which I guess explains this strange obsession some of these NIU folk seem to have with Toledo.

Seriously, 1899?

(07-19-2011 08:16 AM)JCRocket Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-19-2011 05:40 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]Seems like an easy way to settle this would be to compare head-to-head records. Hey, Kev-maybe you could look it up in your warehouse book or whatever-but be careful....its REALLLLLLY ugly.

Which I guess explains this strange obsession some of these NIU folk seem to have with Toledo.

Seriously, 1899?

Karl told me back then it was NISNS-Northern Illinois State Normal School. I guess NIU is not Normal anymore.

Awww, look a the little puppy... He wants to be our rival. Isn't he cute?