I REALLY want to lower the Body Bag games. It kills every Sun Belt confrence team when you are basically 1-3 or 0-4 to start the season.
If it was up to me it would be a 2-2 scenario.
2 Body Bag
1 "Winnable" FBS (Non-AQ school, or lower tier AQ school)
1 FCS
That would be ideal IMHO.
(07-15-2011 08:56 AM)OwlFamily Wrote: [ -> ]I REALLY want to lower the Body Bag games. It kills every Sun Belt confrence team when you are basically 1-3 or 0-4 to start the season.
If it was up to me it would be a 2-2 scenario.
2 Body Bag
1 "Winnable" FBS (Non-AQ school, or lower tier AQ school)
1 FCS
That would be ideal IMHO.
How would you define @ Ohio State and Boise State on back to back weekends? Boise will have a week's lay-off after the University of Georgia game.
I would love to replace cal-poly with a SBC school.
Troy come up and play NIU. we can have a home and home series . We still own bragging rights from 2004.
My schedule philosophy would be really simple.
2 - Big 10/Big 12 games on road
1 - Lower teir Big 10/Big 12/ACC/Big East team at home/road depending on year
1 - FBS non-aq school alternate road/home of the item above
That way you get 2 paydays
and the others are essentially a wash.
(07-15-2011 12:39 PM)numbersdontlie Wrote: [ -> ]I would love to replace cal-poly with a SBC school.
Troy come up and play NIU. we can have a home and home series . We still own bragging rights from 2004.
My schedule philosophy would be really simple.
2 - Big 10/Big 12 games on road
1 - Lower teir Big 10/Big 12/ACC/Big East team at home/road depending on year
1 - FBS non-aq school alternate road/home of the item above
That way you get 2 paydays
and the others are essentially a wash.
For your first option: why do you want these on the road. The way I see it you go from having 2 home OOC games a year to 1 every other year. That sucks. If a school wants to eventually move up and to better things(most are contempt with the MAC right now) but reguardless you've got to get big games at home.
(07-15-2011 12:39 PM)numbersdontlie Wrote: [ -> ]I would love to replace cal-poly with a SBC school.
Troy come up and play NIU. we can have a home and home series . We still own bragging rights from 2004.
My schedule philosophy would be really simple.
2 - Big 10/Big 12 games on road
1 - Lower teir Big 10/Big 12/ACC/Big East team at home/road depending on year
1 - FBS non-aq school alternate road/home of the item above
That way you get 2 paydays
and the others are essentially a wash.
I think a game like that early in the season could actually garner at least a little national attention. A couple of the top teams in non-aq conferences facing off on an otherwise slow weekend could be interesting. You generally don't see a lot of huge match-ups early in the season so competition for coverage could lower. I'd like some revenge, coverage or not:) I know a lot of MAC and Belt fans would like to see a match-up like that for potential bragging rights too.
I am so in the middle of this....I actually like and respect the SB quite a bit. The Troy game in 04 was a riot and good for both schools. Gained a lot of respect for Troy and for the conference as a whole. I do wish we would play eachother more OOC... never really understood why that rarely occurs. I do believe, that when this growth spurt all shakes out that the WAC will be on the bottom looking up and CUSA might just be on par with the MAC and SB. The SB needs a Troy to have a break out year and get some quality votes and maybe a ranking before they can start picking fights with the CUSA though,.....for the moment, that is our fight.
(07-15-2011 06:35 PM)houstonhuskie Wrote: [ -> ]I am so in the middle of this....I actually like and respect the SB quite a bit. The Troy game in 04 was a riot and good for both schools. Gained a lot of respect for Troy and for the conference as a whole. I do wish we would play eachother more OOC... never really understood why that rarely occurs. I do believe, that when this growth spurt all shakes out that the WAC will be on the bottom looking up and CUSA might just be on par with the MAC and SB. The SB needs a Troy to have a break out year and get some quality votes and maybe a ranking before they can start picking fights with the CUSA though,.....for the moment, that is our fight.
We, of course, hope for that breakout season every year. Our schedule is set up for that type of year in 2012. Home games with Miss St., and Navy; ooc road games at Tennessee and our rival UAB. Three of the four are very winnable for the first time since we transitioned to FBS. It will also be the first year we've had six home games since the transition. I've looked at all of the SBC schedules, and I see a lot of the same. Some of our programs are finally on solid enough footing to start getting away from at least some of the body bag games.
I completely agree that the WAC will securely hold down the bottom spot. The MAC and SBC should be pretty even for the next few years. CUSA really baffles me. They have so many things going for them, yet continue to turn out very average results. They are living proof that more money and exposure doesn't necessarily guarantee a better product.
These conferences are pretty even but Troy is better than anything the MAC had last season. They blew the Bobcats away in the bowl game and its was clear Troy was the better team which far more speed. Bobcats looked like they where in quicksand compared to Troy.
Ohio has played Louisiana Lafayette and North Texas the last few seasons and the Bobcats had tough games in all three games. Very exciting games won in final minutes by Ohio, but they were tough games. MAC isn't any better than these teams. Sun Belt atleast has improved where they could make a case their better teams are better than the MAC. Yes, Troy was far better than Temple, Miami, Kent St,NIU or any other MAC school we played. Troy looked like they have superior talent on both sides of the ball. Troy is top 25 in recent years and has beaten some top 25 teams. I was very impressed by Troy.
(07-15-2011 02:06 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ] (07-15-2011 12:39 PM)numbersdontlie Wrote: [ -> ]I would love to replace cal-poly with a SBC school.
Troy come up and play NIU. we can have a home and home series . We still own bragging rights from 2004.
My schedule philosophy would be really simple.
2 - Big 10/Big 12 games on road
1 - Lower teir Big 10/Big 12/ACC/Big East team at home/road depending on year
1 - FBS non-aq school alternate road/home of the item above
That way you get 2 paydays
and the others are essentially a wash.
For your first option: why do you want these on the road. The way I see it you go from having 2 home OOC games a year to 1 every other year. That sucks. If a school wants to eventually move up and to better things(most are contempt with the MAC right now) but reguardless you've got to get big games at home.
I think its the realty. I would like to have 2 home 2 road but we need the cash. I will say that Toledo's non-conference scheduling is very aggressive but for whatever reason we can't seem to do the same.
(07-15-2011 10:10 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote: [ -> ]These conferences are pretty even but Troy is better than anything the MAC had last season. They blew the Bobcats away in the bowl game and its was clear Troy was the better team which far more speed. Bobcats looked like they where in quicksand compared to Troy.
Ohio has played Louisiana Lafayette and North Texas the last few seasons and the Bobcats had tough games in all three games. Very exciting games won in final minutes by Ohio, but they were tough games. MAC isn't any better than these teams. Sun Belt atleast has improved where they could make a case their better teams are better than the MAC. Yes, Troy was far better than Temple, Miami, Kent St,NIU or any other MAC school we played. Troy looked like they have superior talent on both sides of the ball. Troy is top 25 in recent years and has beaten some top 25 teams. I was very impressed by Troy.
I beg to differ. We lost the MAC championship on a few crazy plays but we were a damn good team. You can speak for Ohio, but not for NIU. We finished as the 26th team in the country in the final poll.
(07-15-2011 10:21 PM)numbersdontlie Wrote: [ -> ] (07-15-2011 10:10 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote: [ -> ]These conferences are pretty even but Troy is better than anything the MAC had last season. They blew the Bobcats away in the bowl game and its was clear Troy was the better team which far more speed. Bobcats looked like they where in quicksand compared to Troy.
Ohio has played Louisiana Lafayette and North Texas the last few seasons and the Bobcats had tough games in all three games. Very exciting games won in final minutes by Ohio, but they were tough games. MAC isn't any better than these teams. Sun Belt atleast has improved where they could make a case their better teams are better than the MAC. Yes, Troy was far better than Temple, Miami, Kent St,NIU or any other MAC school we played. Troy looked like they have superior talent on both sides of the ball. Troy is top 25 in recent years and has beaten some top 25 teams. I was very impressed by Troy.
I beg to differ. We lost the MAC championship on a few crazy plays but we were a damn good team. You can speak for Ohio, but not for NIU. We finished as the 26th team in the country in the final poll.
Knocking around Fresno State was pretty impressive.
the MAC and Sun Belt should work together in scheduling. Our two Conferences are as close as two could be in talent and level of play. I have tons of respect for your league.
The Sun Belt is pretty good conference. The talent they get from the south in recruiting is helping them. They have access to Florida and Texas recruits. They have gained on CUSA and the MAC in recent years and have caught them on the field. They still are trying to add teams and get more bowls, but they got talent and getting players drafted like the MAC. MAC would appear to be down with massive coaching changes. Not gonna be easy for the MAC in September as those teams will need time.
This year :
MWC
CUSA
MAC
WAC
Sunbelt
Next year:
MWC
CUSA
MAC
Sunbelt
WAC - WAC will be one hurt'n conference after this year.
(07-16-2011 10:46 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote: [ -> ]The Sun Belt is pretty good conference. The talent they get from the south in recruiting is helping them. They have access to Florida and Texas recruits. They have gained on CUSA and the MAC in recent years and have caught them on the field. They still are trying to add teams and get more bowls, but they got talent and getting players drafted like the MAC. MAC would appear to be down with massive coaching changes. Not gonna be easy for the MAC in September as those teams will need time.
I don't see Doeren, Lembo, Addazio, or Treadwell's teams to be in bad shape. If anything, 3 of the 4 programs are legitimate contenders for the Division titles. And Ball State certainly has an outside shot and definitely a spoiler for somebody's title hopes.
SBC vs MAC in 2011;
FIU @ Akron
ULL @ Kent
South Alabama @ Kent
GoDaddy.com Bowl
FIU should beat Akron. ULL is projected by most to finish near the bottom of the conference this year. I believe the same is true about Kent so we'll call this a toss up. South Alabama won't be full football members until 2013, so Kent should win this one. Not a lot to analyze here, but a sweep by one conference could say something.
The MAC East should go like this: OU, Temple, Miami, Kent, BG, Buffalo, then Akron. If Miami underachieves or Temple falls. Kent will be around .500 this year. The MAC should go 2-1. Just because it's at Kent. Akron will get drilled. S.A. will probably get whooped too. Just a MAC fans two cents...
With Kent's history and a new coach I don't even know what to think.
(07-15-2011 10:10 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote: [ -> ]These conferences are pretty even but Troy is better than anything the MAC had last season. They blew the Bobcats away in the bowl game and its was clear Troy was the better team which far more speed. Bobcats looked like they where in quicksand compared to Troy.
Ohio has played Louisiana Lafayette and North Texas the last few seasons and the Bobcats had tough games in all three games. Very exciting games won in final minutes by Ohio, but they were tough games. MAC isn't any better than these teams. Sun Belt atleast has improved where they could make a case their better teams are better than the MAC. Yes, Troy was far better than Temple, Miami, Kent St,NIU or any other MAC school we played. Troy looked like they have superior talent on both sides of the ball. Troy is top 25 in recent years and has beaten some top 25 teams. I was very impressed by Troy.
IMO Troy will be hurt by the change in recruiting rules. You can only sign 28 per as as well.year and I believe there was a Juco rule change as well. Per Rivals Troy commits #'s last few years 22,40,34.33,32. That is a lot of beef on the hoof there Bubba.
(07-17-2011 03:15 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ]The MAC East should go like this: OU, Temple, Miami, Kent, BG, Buffalo, then Akron. If Miami underachieves or Temple falls. Kent will be around .500 this year. The MAC should go 2-1. Just because it's at Kent. Akron will get drilled. S.A. will probably get whooped too. Just a MAC fans two cents...
Handicapping the MAC is almost as tough as analyzing MAC recruiting classes. IMO EMU,Akron,Ball St,CMU have no chance in winning the MAC everyone else has a shot. If Temple's JC QB recruit is a stud watch out.