Will Belt teams step up with better attendance averages in 2011 ? Will all Belt teams make the 15,000 cut ? Thoughts.
Here's the 2010 attendance averages. Before it gets pointed out, yes it does include two "home game"; one for ULM and one for FAU that weren't even played in their state.
20,934 ULM - (13,980 W/O "home game" vs Arkansas In LR)
19,024 MUTS
18,947 Troy
18,844 FAU -(14,024 W/O "home game" vs Mich. State in Detroit)
17,718 UNT
17,394 ASU
17.383 ULL
16,545 FIU
14,577 WKU
(06-28-2011 04:00 PM)MG61 Wrote: [ -> ]Will Belt teams step up with better attendance averages in 2011 ? Will all Belt teams make the 15,000 cut ? Thoughts.
20,934 ULM - (will fall far short of "official" attendance)
19,024 MUTS (should remain within 1000 +/- of official count)
18,947 Troy - (should remain within 1000 +/- of official count)
18,844 FAU -(should see increase with new stadium)
17,718 UNT - (should see large increase with new stadium AND new coach)
17,394 ASU - (should see increase with new coach)
17.383 UL - (Will see increase with new coach)
16,545 FIU -(should remain within 1000 +/- of official count)
14,577 WKU -(should see improvement if team w/l improves)
I think stAte will see a good sized bump this year due to scheduling.
Good weather and good season, we'll average 22-23k....easily.
I'm going to make a big prediction and say North Texas will average over 24,000 per game this season, and out draw a solid SMU program just down the road. With a new stadium, new coach, and two ooc opponents (Houston & Indiana) that should draw near sellout crowds, 24,000 is not out of the question.
No one in the Sun Belt will average over 23,000. Book it.
Remember when our top teams averaged around 15K? I would love to see us all above 20K soon.
(06-28-2011 04:13 PM)AstroCajun Wrote: [ -> ]18,844 FAU -(should see increase with new stadium)
Don't forget, FAU will likely be 2-3
at best when they open that stadium against WKU in mid October, and there's a real chance they'll be 0-5.
(06-29-2011 12:21 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ] (06-28-2011 04:13 PM)AstroCajun Wrote: [ -> ]18,844 FAU -(should see increase with new stadium)
Don't forget, FAU will likely be 2-3 at best when they open that stadium against WKU in mid October, and there's a real chance they'll be 0-5.
Never seen FAU's schedule until just now. What I fine absolutely
bizarre, si that they open the season with five straight home games.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/team...antic-owls
This is what confuses me about not wanting to add teams like App State, Appy averages over 25K (i'm pretty sure).
Sorry for going OT, I can't help it.
(06-28-2011 11:54 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ]No one in the Sun Belt will average over 23,000. Book it.
I think you are wrong. North Texas has started each of the last several seasons with strong home attendance, and that was at Fouts, with teams that were only winning between 1 to 3 games a season. Our numbers fell off in the second half of those seasons due to frustration with Dodges coaching and the mounting loses that resulted from it. McCarney is going to win some of those close games Dodge always found a way to lose. Add in the new stadium and a favorable home conference schedule (FAU, ULM, WKU, and MTSU), and North Texas should be able to maintain the number of fans in attendance. UNT has also begun airing commercials, and started a billboard campaign in the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex, that should generate more attendance too. Plus, I think our tailgating experience will be one of the finest in the Sun Belt, if not all of the southwest. Next seasons Mean Green football games will be great fan events, and that certainly won't hurt our attendance. I feel our athletic
department is spending some serious money to implement a solid devepment and marketing strategy that will lead to an increase in attendance next season, and build a stronger more competitive Mean Green program in the coming years.
I don't claim North Texas will have a sizable increase in wins this season. I think 4-8 or maybe 5-7 would be about right. But in attendance, I strongly believe we will see a substantial increase in numbers. 24,000 should be very possible.
(06-29-2011 09:02 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote: [ -> ] (06-28-2011 11:54 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ]No one in the Sun Belt will average over 23,000. Book it.
I think you are wrong. North Texas has started each of the last several seasons with strong home attendance, and that was at Fouts, with teams that were only winning between 1 to 3 games a season. Our numbers fell off in the second half of those seasons due to frustration with Dodges coaching and the mounting loses that resulted from it. McCarney is going to win some of those close games Dodge always found a way to lose. Add in the new stadium and a favorable home conference schedule (FAU, ULM, WKU, and MTSU), and North Texas should be able to maintain the number of fans in attendance. UNT has also begun airing commercials, and started a billboard campaign in the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex, that should generate more attendance too. Plus, I think our tailgating experience will be one of the finest in the Sun Belt, if not all of the southwest. Next seasons Mean Green football games will be great fan events, and that certainly won't hurt our attendance. I feel our athletic
department is spending some serious money to implement a solid devepment and marketing strategy that will lead to an increase in attendance next season, and build a stronger more competitive Mean Green program in the coming years.
I don't claim North Texas will have a sizable increase in wins this season. I think 4-8 or maybe 5-7 would be about right. But in attendance, I strongly believe we will see a substantial increase in numbers. 24,000 should be very possible.
I won't argue with any of your suppositions, but the word "maintain" would indicate that UNT currently holds the top spot in conference attendance, which is untrue. They might can claim the top spot, but they will not "maintain" it.
Attendance average for true home games:
MTSU 19,024
Troy 18,947
USA 18,765
UNT 17,718
ASU 17,394
ULL 17,383
FIU 16,545
WKU 14,577
FAU 14,025
ULM 13,818
I would estimate ASU will break 20K for sure but I don't see 23K unless we are absolutely on fire going inton November with a a championship on the horizon. 60K for the two OOC home games, average 15K for the four conference games against FIU, UNT, ULL and Troy and you get an average of 20K.
I guarantee ASU will beat the best attendance for true home games from last season.
(06-29-2011 12:06 AM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote: [ -> ]Remember when our top teams averaged around 15K? I would love to see us all above 20K soon.
I think you will see several teams in the Sunbelt average over 20,000 next year, Including the Cajuns...
I ment, maintain our attendance numbers from games we play early in the season, when we have over 20,000 in the stands. Our games played in the second half of the season usually only draw about 13,000, because of poor performance on the field. I didn't intend to claim the attendance crown. I apologize for the confusion.
(06-29-2011 10:43 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote: [ -> ]I ment, maintain our attendance numbers from games we play early in the season, when we have over 20,000 in the stands. Our games played in the second half of the season usually only draw about 13,000, because of poor performance on the field. I didn't intend to claim the attendance crown. I apologize for the confusion.
My bad... I see your original intent now.
(06-29-2011 10:43 AM)BankerCajun Wrote: [ -> ] (06-29-2011 12:06 AM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote: [ -> ]Remember when our top teams averaged around 15K? I would love to see us all above 20K soon.
I think you will see several teams in the Sunbelt average over 20,000 next year, Including the Cajuns...
If ya'll could get all of your tailgaters inside the stadium, you'd have averaged 20k in the last couple of years.
(06-29-2011 10:43 AM)BankerCajun Wrote: [ -> ] (06-29-2011 12:06 AM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote: [ -> ]Remember when our top teams averaged around 15K? I would love to see us all above 20K soon.
I think you will see several teams in the Sunbelt average over 20,000 next year, Including the Cajuns...
I hope so...I look forward to when our worst teams average 20K+. I know we don't play the games but many on this board have played a part in building this conference. I've dragged friends to games against NMSU when there were like 5000 people there back in the early 90's. It's been a long haul. I don't support nearly as much as many other but I do what I can.
(06-29-2011 02:09 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-29-2011 12:21 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ] (06-28-2011 04:13 PM)AstroCajun Wrote: [ -> ]18,844 FAU -(should see increase with new stadium)
Don't forget, FAU will likely be 2-3 at best when they open that stadium against WKU in mid October, and there's a real chance they'll be 0-5.
Never seen FAU's schedule until just now. What I fine absolutely bizarre, si that they open the season with five straight home games.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/team...antic-owls
You mean 5 straight road games, right? Yeah, the stadium won't be ready until mid October, that's why. It's going to seriously hurt their stadium opening, but with it being the first ever home game in the new stadium they should still get a good turnout, but for the rest of the season, it probably won't be too great, especially if they drop that opener to Western Kentucky, which personally I think they will.
(06-29-2011 09:02 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote: [ -> ] (06-28-2011 11:54 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ]No one in the Sun Belt will average over 23,000. Book it.
I think you are wrong. North Texas has started each of the last several seasons with strong home attendance, and that was at Fouts, with teams that were only winning between 1 to 3 games a season. Our numbers fell off in the second half of those seasons due to frustration with Dodges coaching and the mounting loses that resulted from it. McCarney is going to win some of those close games Dodge always found a way to lose. Add in the new stadium and a favorable home conference schedule (FAU, ULM, WKU, and MTSU), and North Texas should be able to maintain the number of fans in attendance. UNT has also begun airing commercials, and started a billboard campaign in the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex, that should generate more attendance too. Plus, I think our tailgating experience will be one of the finest in the Sun Belt, if not all of the southwest. Next seasons Mean Green football games will be great fan events, and that certainly won't hurt our attendance. I feel our athletic
department is spending some serious money to implement a solid devepment and marketing strategy that will lead to an increase in attendance next season, and build a stronger more competitive Mean Green program in the coming years.
I don't claim North Texas will have a sizable increase in wins this season. I think 4-8 or maybe 5-7 would be about right. But in attendance, I strongly believe we will see a substantial increase in numbers. 24,000 should be very possible.
I'm sorry, but the best indicator of future results, is past results. I just don't see anyone averaging over 23,000 and even getting to 23,000 might be a stretch.
If you can get 30,000 for Houston and 30,000 for Indiana, which could be possible, in order to average 24,000 you'd still need to average 21,000 for your four conference home games, and unless you're contending for the Sun Belt title I really don't see you getting 21,000 out for WKU on Nov 19th and Middle Tennessee on Dec 3rd.
Not to be a wet blanket....
No one will average over 23,000.
No more than three schools(and that might be pushing it) will average over 20,000.
FAU-No shot. Five straight road games to open the season, plus I believe the Owls finish in the bottom two.
ULM-No shot. History really isn't on the Warhawks side on this one.
FIU-No shot. Fanbase just isn't there yet, neither is the stadium.
WKU-No shot. Should see improvement, should average closer to 20k than ever before, but won't get there.
ULL-Small chance. With excitement over the new coach and one of the best fanbases in the conference, they have a good shot, but an unattractive schedule and a team that will finish in the bottom third of the conference, I don't think the Cajuns do it this year.
Troy-Decent chance. As long as Troy keeps winning, they'll continue to be at or near the top in attendance. A probably 0-2 start and a less than attractive home schedule hurts, but having their two most attractive home opponents(MT and UAB) for their 3rd and 4th games help.
UNT-Good chance. The stadium, coach, and schedule are all in place, but the team might not be. I think UNT will probably get there, but by the skin of their teeth.
MT-Good chance. MT is almost always right around the top in attendance. We have the schedule in place with Georgia Tech, Memphis and Western Kentucky all at home. Unless the team takes a major step back, I think we get there, even with a 5-7 to 7-5 team.
ASU-Best chance. New coach, great home schedule(for attendance purposes anyhow) and a team that is primed to contend. ASU could certainly fail to get there if they disappoint, we all know the deer season stigma that comes along with the Red Wolves, if they're winning and contending, they won't see as big of a hit to their late season attendance and they'll end up over 20k.