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Well I guess all those Mallet "rumors" were not just rumors-

April 19, 2011
Former Arkansas Razorbacks quarterback Ryan Mallett reportedly admitted to experimenting with drugs during his team interviews at the 2011 NFL Combine.

Mallett has been dogging the rumors for some time and was a bit unsettled when the issue was pressed by members of the media that same weekend.

Ths news comes by way of Pro Football Weekly. Nolan Nawrocki wrote the following about Mallett in a story published Monday afternoon.

"One GM said Mallett was the first quarterback ever to admit his drug usage to him in interviews, and his willingness to be honest about his past and acknowledge issues is viewed as a positive.

Concerns about his history of use could impact his draft position, though. Although Mallett did not produce an official positive test at Arkansas, he has been arrested for public intoxication and carries a reputation as a "big party guy," per sources who have interviewed him.

How much teams believe he has matured will weigh into his draft status. "I would not take him at any point," one executive not in need of a quarterback said. He still figures to be drafted in the second round."

This new information could prove pretty damaging in the eyes of the public and could be costly for his draft prospects. Teams may shy away from a possible PR problem. But his candor and honesty could also be a plus.

The biggest problem that will follow the talented signal-caller is his alleged partying ways. With all that attention and money, temptations will lurk at just about every turn he makes.

If a team is set on drafting him, they will do so with their eyes wide open. He brings an incredible arm and ability to move the ball down the field. He has some growing up to do in some evaluators eyes.

Ultimately though, it is reasonable to believe there is some negative impact with the release of the recent information.
(04-19-2011 02:33 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]Well I guess all those Mallet "rumors" were not just rumors-

April 19, 2011
Former Arkansas Razorbacks quarterback Ryan Mallett reportedly admitted to experimenting with drugs during his team interviews at the 2011 NFL Combine.

Mallett has been dogging the rumors for some time and was a bit unsettled when the issue was pressed by members of the media that same weekend.

Ths news comes by way of Pro Football Weekly. Nolan Nawrocki wrote the following about Mallett in a story published Monday afternoon.

"One GM said Mallett was the first quarterback ever to admit his drug usage to him in interviews, and his willingness to be honest about his past and acknowledge issues is viewed as a positive.

Concerns about his history of use could impact his draft position, though. Although Mallett did not produce an official positive test at Arkansas, he has been arrested for public intoxication and carries a reputation as a "big party guy," per sources who have interviewed him.

How much teams believe he has matured will weigh into his draft status. "I would not take him at any point," one executive not in need of a quarterback said. He still figures to be drafted in the second round."

This new information could prove pretty damaging in the eyes of the public and could be costly for his draft prospects. Teams may shy away from a possible PR problem. But his candor and honesty could also be a plus.

The biggest problem that will follow the talented signal-caller is his alleged partying ways. With all that attention and money, temptations will lurk at just about every turn he makes.

If a team is set on drafting him, they will do so with their eyes wide open. He brings an incredible arm and ability to move the ball down the field. He has some growing up to do in some evaluators eyes.

Ultimately though, it is reasonable to believe there is some negative impact with the release of the recent information.

I've been out of college for almost four decades, but unless things have really, really changed a lot, I don't know why anyone would be suprised that a college kid has experimented with MJ. What is suprising is that he admitted it, but as the story says, that may turn out to be a positive.

If a team needs a tall QB with a stong and accurate arm, my guess is that none of this will stand in the way of his getting drafted.
(04-19-2011 02:46 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-19-2011 02:33 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]Well I guess all those Mallet "rumors" were not just rumors-

April 19, 2011
Former Arkansas Razorbacks quarterback Ryan Mallett reportedly admitted to experimenting with drugs during his team interviews at the 2011 NFL Combine.

Mallett has been dogging the rumors for some time and was a bit unsettled when the issue was pressed by members of the media that same weekend.

Ths news comes by way of Pro Football Weekly. Nolan Nawrocki wrote the following about Mallett in a story published Monday afternoon.

"One GM said Mallett was the first quarterback ever to admit his drug usage to him in interviews, and his willingness to be honest about his past and acknowledge issues is viewed as a positive.

Concerns about his history of use could impact his draft position, though. Although Mallett did not produce an official positive test at Arkansas, he has been arrested for public intoxication and carries a reputation as a "big party guy," per sources who have interviewed him.

How much teams believe he has matured will weigh into his draft status. "I would not take him at any point," one executive not in need of a quarterback said. He still figures to be drafted in the second round."

This new information could prove pretty damaging in the eyes of the public and could be costly for his draft prospects. Teams may shy away from a possible PR problem. But his candor and honesty could also be a plus.

The biggest problem that will follow the talented signal-caller is his alleged partying ways. With all that attention and money, temptations will lurk at just about every turn he makes.

If a team is set on drafting him, they will do so with their eyes wide open. He brings an incredible arm and ability to move the ball down the field. He has some growing up to do in some evaluators eyes.

Ultimately though, it is reasonable to believe there is some negative impact with the release of the recent information.

I've been out of college for almost four decades, but unless things have really, really changed a lot, I don't know why anyone would be suprised that a college kid has experimented with MJ. What is suprising is that he admitted it, but as the story says, that may turn out to be a positive.

If a team needs a tall QB with a stong and accurate arm, my guess is that none of this will stand in the way of his getting drafted.

If that's all he did, I just can't imagine they'd be making such a big deal out of it. It says he admitted "experimenting with drugs". Sounds like that may be more than MJ. I don't know if it was or not. Apparently the NFL folks do, and some of them seem to have big concerns. I think he's the best quarterback (certainly true passer) in the draft. If he doesn't get picked in the first 15 picks than something is seriously wrong.
He'll either be a Peyton Manning or a Ryan Leaf. I think that is the concern of some of the teams that he'll be a Ryan Leaf. I think the kid will be a terrific pro if he gets with the right team.
(04-19-2011 07:07 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]He'll either be a Peyton Manning or a Ryan Leaf. I think that is the concern of some of the teams that he'll be a Ryan Leaf. I think the kid will be a terrific pro if he gets with the right team.

The more I think about it, no NFL is executive is going to be worried about a college kid smoking some weed. Come on, these executives were in college in the 60's and 70's. I think there is concern he is a "head case". Is he? I don't have the slightest idea. But if he drops out of the first round, it won't be because he had a few beers and a little weed.
Come on Man! If there are any questions about this kids off the field tendancies they are and should be under intense scrutiny! I can not comment on Mallett's ability other than to say the local sports folks who work the Titans beat consider him to be a "2nd tier" QB draft choice. Come on outsideualr....Mallett a Peyton Manning????? Really????? Come on Man. We have lived through the Pacman Jones perp walks, the Vince Young's mental instability, etc, etc. So Mallett may be a Titan and if so i will support him but he will be poked and proded in every concievable manner between now and draft day. Mallett....Manning....Come on Man!
Being a Tennessee fan you probably love Peyton Manning, and he's undoubtedly one of the all time greats, but don't sell Mallett short. He's had every bit as great college career as Manning, has an arm like a rocket. According to Chris Mortenson and others, has a high football IQ and with the right team will be a terrific pro quarterback. But like Manning he very immobile and needs a good offensive line. Give him that and he has the potential to be a Pro Bowler. What's strange to me is that after his first season he was "The Quarterback" according to experts. Then he had a great final season, and all of a sudden he's the fifth or sixth best pro prospect. It makes absolutely no sense. He'll make a lot of teams sorry they didn't draft him.
(04-20-2011 02:03 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]Being a Tennessee fan you probably love Peyton Manning, and he's undoubtedly one of the all time greats, but don't sell Mallett short. He's had every bit as great college career as Manning, has an arm like a rocket. According to Chris Mortenson and others, has a high football IQ and with the right team will be a terrific pro quarterback. But like Manning he very immobile and needs a good offensive line. Give him that and he has the potential to be a Pro Bowler. What's strange to me is that after his first season he was "The Quarterback" according to experts. Then he had a great final season, and all of a sudden he's the fifth or sixth best pro prospect. It makes absolutely no sense. He'll make a lot of teams sorry they didn't draft him.

Well the only thing that makes sense is that he has a "screw loose" somewhere and it isn't in his throwing arm. Apparently NFL execs thoroughtly check out a lot more than a kid's throwing arm before investing millions of dollars. No doubt in my mind that he has the most pure talent out there.
I don't know anything about the "loose screws" in his head, but he definitely has the talent to be a very good pro quarterback. The screws might have something to do with his pro career, but they sure didn't affect his college career. He's the best I've ever seen by far at Arkansas, and I don't know if he'll be another Peyton Manning or not, they don't grow on trees, but I'd bet he'll be a good one for someone. I'm not an Arkansas fan, and obviously the Arkansas press has built him up to be the best ever to play the game. They had him projected to win the Heisman, like they did Daron McFadden, but you just have to consider the sources on that. He's a good one though.

While Joe Ferguson didn't play under the same offensive(passing) system at Arkansas, Mallett has a much better arm, and Joe turned out to be a pretty good pro quarterback. Again, I don't know anything about the "loose screw" syndrome.
There've been a lot of great quarterbacks with a screw slightly loose. Going back to the great Bobby Layne of the Lions, who had some of his greatest games when he was playing drunk. Jim McMahon was certainly a character, and he did allright. Just look at what the kid did on the field. If that doesn't convince someone, they haven't been looking closely enough.
(04-20-2011 02:51 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]There've been a lot of great quarterbacks with a screw slightly loose. Going back to the great Bobby Layne of the Lions, who had some of his greatest games when he was playing drunk. Jim McMahon was certainly a character, and he did allright. Just look at what the kid did on the field. If that doesn't convince someone, they haven't been looking closely enough.

Seems like the NFL is a lot more concerned about things like "character" then they were many years ago. If they know a kid has character or drug problems they realize it's "playing with fire" and they might get burned. In the "old days" multi-million dollars weren't at stake. It really will be interesting to see where Mallet gets drafted. I'm obviously far from an expert, but he would be my number one pick of the draft based purely on talent and nothing else. How many times does a 6'7" quarterback, with an arm like a rifle, come along?
I guess I've seen too many comspiracy theory shows, but my guess is that someone down the drafting order really wants him, and they sort of put out this information and let the media run with it to have a better chance of him dropping down to where they can draft him. Not much else makes sense.
(04-20-2011 03:44 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2011 02:51 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]There've been a lot of great quarterbacks with a screw slightly loose. Going back to the great Bobby Layne of the Lions, who had some of his greatest games when he was playing drunk. Jim McMahon was certainly a character, and he did allright. Just look at what the kid did on the field. If that doesn't convince someone, they haven't been looking closely enough.

Seems like the NFL is a lot more concerned about things like "character" then they were many years ago. If they know a kid has character or drug problems they realize it's "playing with fire" and they might get burned. In the "old days" multi-million dollars weren't at stake. It really will be interesting to see where Mallet gets drafted. I'm obviously far from an expert, but he would be my number one pick of the draft based purely on talent and nothing else. How many times does a 6'7" quarterback, with an arm like a rifle, come along?

This is the point i was trying to make. The Titans have been burned badly by some kids with great ability but had very bad off the field problems ie: pacman Jones and then had to deal with vince young. We can not afford any real problems with off the field issues. Am i a UT fan? Not really, but come on man, is mallett peyton? don't think so. Maybe i am wrong if i am i will have the pleasure of supporting mallet as he leads the titans for the next billion years....like peyton has with the colts.

GO TROJANS!!!
(04-20-2011 04:55 PM)mdtntrojanceo Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2011 03:44 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2011 02:51 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]There've been a lot of great quarterbacks with a screw slightly loose. Going back to the great Bobby Layne of the Lions, who had some of his greatest games when he was playing drunk. Jim McMahon was certainly a character, and he did allright. Just look at what the kid did on the field. If that doesn't convince someone, they haven't been looking closely enough.

Seems like the NFL is a lot more concerned about things like "character" then they were many years ago. If they know a kid has character or drug problems they realize it's "playing with fire" and they might get burned. In the "old days" multi-million dollars weren't at stake. It really will be interesting to see where Mallet gets drafted. I'm obviously far from an expert, but he would be my number one pick of the draft based purely on talent and nothing else. How many times does a 6'7" quarterback, with an arm like a rifle, come along?

This is the point i was trying to make. The Titans have been burned badly by some kids with great ability but had very bad off the field problems ie: pacman Jones and then had to deal with vince young. We can not afford any real problems with off the field issues. Am i a UT fan? Not really, but come on man, is mallett peyton? don't think so. Maybe i am wrong if i am i will have the pleasure of supporting mallet as he leads the titans for the next billion years....like peyton has with the colts.

GO TROJANS!!!

I don't think anyone can say a college QB is the next Peyton Manning. Or Tom Brady, for that matter, who is better than Peyton Manning.... 05-stirthepot
(04-20-2011 04:55 PM)mdtntrojanceo Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2011 03:44 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-20-2011 02:51 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]There've been a lot of great quarterbacks with a screw slightly loose. Going back to the great Bobby Layne of the Lions, who had some of his greatest games when he was playing drunk. Jim McMahon was certainly a character, and he did allright. Just look at what the kid did on the field. If that doesn't convince someone, they haven't been looking closely enough.

Seems like the NFL is a lot more concerned about things like "character" then they were many years ago. If they know a kid has character or drug problems they realize it's "playing with fire" and they might get burned. In the "old days" multi-million dollars weren't at stake. It really will be interesting to see where Mallet gets drafted. I'm obviously far from an expert, but he would be my number one pick of the draft based purely on talent and nothing else. How many times does a 6'7" quarterback, with an arm like a rifle, come along?

This is the point i was trying to make. The Titans have been burned badly by some kids with great ability but had very bad off the field problems ie: pacman Jones and then had to deal with vince young. We can not afford any real problems with off the field issues. Am i a UT fan? Not really, but come on man, is mallett peyton? don't think so. Maybe i am wrong if i am i will have the pleasure of supporting mallet as he leads the titans for the next billion years....like peyton has with the colts.

GO TROJANS!!!

I have great admiration for Peyton Manning. I think he got royaly screwed out of the Heisman Trophy his senior season. Will Ryan be another Manning? Probably not. But he can still be a great quarterback and not be as good as Manning. He has the talent. Just hope he doesn't blow his chance. I don't think he will. I think he really loves playing football and will work at it.04-cheers
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