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Go get 'em, Zips!

Thats going to be tough, in Notre Dame's backyard.

Good luck Zips!!!

(03-13-2011 05:36 PM)utpotts Wrote: [ -> ]Thats going to be tough, in Notre Dame's backyard.

How did Akron not get sent to Cleveland?

One and done...

Guard the 3 point line and Akron can win this game.

GO ZIPS !!! Take down the crying irish...

This is the seed from hell. ND has been through the Big East meat grinder and is p*ssed over giving up a lead to Louisville in the Big East tourney. The location is a home game for the Irish...literally a day trip from South Bend and their MBA program is in downtown Chicago. The UC will be filled with Irish fans.

I cringed when we were projected for this spot...don’t think any MAC school could pull this off. Miracles can happen, and that’s what this upset is going to take.

If Akron plays their game, they can be in it at the end. That is all that you can ask for, just give yourself a chance at the end.

This is the lowest seed a MAC team has probably ever earned in its history. What a rough first round matchup.

MAC has beaten the Big East in the NCAA tournament before in last decade. Unfortnately Notre Dame coaches likely remind them about last years Big East choke job vs the MAC.

Kent St over Pitt in 2002
Ohio over Georgetown in 2010

Akron has a shot. Notre Dame hasn't exactly last too long in the tournament since they joined the Big East.

(03-13-2011 11:14 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: [ -> ]This is the lowest seed a MAC team has probably ever earned in its history. What a rough first round matchup.

ball st was a 15 against a great kansas team in the 90s and again a 2 against a powerful ucla team around 1999. both games were even in the second half until ball faded during crunch time. miami almost upset n carolina as a 14 or 15 seed about 20 years back. ohio won as a 14 seed last yr in a game that looked impossible once the draw came out.

akron will need to rebound well, keep zeke out of foul trouble and have their veteran guards make shots and handle the ball. will take a lot, but if roberts keeps playing well, mcclanahan hits 3s and the good mcnees shows up they could hang around. we'll see if dambrot can game plan. he had them positioned well against gonzaga a few yrs back but couldn't finish.

(03-14-2011 03:13 AM)pono Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-13-2011 11:14 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: [ -> ]This is the lowest seed a MAC team has probably ever earned in its history. What a rough first round matchup.

ball st was a 15 against a great kansas team in the 90s and again a 2 against a powerful ucla team around 1999. both games were even in the second half until ball faded during crunch time. miami almost upset n carolina as a 14 or 15 seed about 20 years back. ohio won as a 14 seed last yr in a game that looked impossible once the draw came out.

akron will need to rebound well, keep zeke out of foul trouble and have their veteran guards make shots and handle the ball. will take a lot, but if roberts keeps playing well, mcclanahan hits 3s and the good mcnees shows up they could hang around. we'll see if dambrot can game plan. he had them positioned well against gonzaga a few yrs back but couldn't finish.

You are correct that Ball State was a 15 in 1993 against Kansas, a game they trailed by, if I recall correctly, 4 points with 5 minutes to go before running out of gas. It didn't help that everyone on TV was saying that was their upset special of the tournament.

But Ball State was an 11 seed when they played UCLA in 2000. I don't think any other MAC team has been a 15 until now.

As an Irish fan, I followed them all year. They are 26-6, finished #4 in the country, finished the BE 1 game behind # 3 Pitt, who they beat on the road. They are 11-5 against the Top 50, and have already beaten 7 of the other ten 10 BE teams in the tourney. ( One of those wins was a split with Marquette.)

Their Big 3, BE POY Hansbrough, Abromatis and Scott, are MAC nightmares. Most of you know about Hansbrough. Abromatis is a 6’8, 235 lb. forward who shoots the 3 at .424 and the 2 at .486 against BE teams. Scott is a shot blocking, put back machine, among the BE leaders and the second best in ND history. He adds 11 PPG.

The chance any MAC school has is that the Irish look past them. Given they’ve been reminded all year about their first round loss in NO, don’t think that will happen. They have 10 returning guys who have had a bad taste in their mouths all year. To top it of, the NCAA put them in “Joyce Center West” at the UC. The Irish have a 90 minute bus ride to the game if they want one.

Upsets happen every year and will this year, too. I didn’t think OU would knock off G’town, and they proved me wrong. But only 5 BE teams could follow the lists of “all Akron has to do” posts to beat the Irish this year, and none of them had ND home games like Friday. The Flashes, or any other MAC team, would face the same buzz saw.

If you want a MAC upset, pray for a miracle. They happen, and it’s what it will take for the MAC to go to the second round.

(03-14-2011 07:26 AM)MikeSpicer Wrote: [ -> ]You are correct that Ball State was a 15 in 1993 against Kansas, a game they trailed by, if I recall correctly, 4 points with 5 minutes to go before running out of gas. It didn't help that everyone on TV was saying that was their upset special of the tournament.

I don't think any other MAC team has been a 15 until now.

Eastern Michigan was a 15 seed vs. Pittsburgh in 1988.

This was posted on the CMU forum by a poster. Not sure where the info came from and I can't attest to its accuracy:

I just wanted to check some research based off of comment above. Going back to 1990 (20 years ago) and using teams :

MAC teams seed position -
9th - twice (EMU in 1996 and Kent State in 2008)
10th - twice
11th - 5 times
12th - 4 times
13th - 7 times
14th - 1 times
15th - 2 times (Ball State - who was a #1 seed in the MAC tourney in 1993 and Akron - #6 seed in 2011)

Year by Year (in years w. 2 teams listed, the first won the conference tourney):

1990 - BSU #12 seed (#1 in MAC tourney) - 2 NCAA wins
1991 - EMU #12 (#1 MAC) - 1 win
1992 - Miami #13 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
1993 - BSU #15 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
1994 - Ohio #12 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
1995 - BSU #12 (#4 MAC) - 0 wins, Miami #12 (#1 MAC) - 1 win
1996 - EMU #9 (#1 MAC) - 1 win
1997 - Miami #13 (#2 MAC) - 0 wins
1998 - EMU #13 (#4 MAC) - 0 wins, WMU #11 (#2 MAC) - 1 win
1999 - KSU #11 (#2 MAC) - 0 wins, Miami #10 (#1 MAC) - 2 wins
2000 - BSU #11 (#2 MAC) - 0 wins
2001 - KSU #13 (#2 MAC) - 1 win
2002 - KSU #10 (#1 MAC) - 3 wins
2003 - CMU #11 (#1 MAC) - 1 win
2004 - WMU #11 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
2005 - Ohio #13 (#4 MAC) - 0 wins
2006 - KSU #12 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
2007 - Miami #14 (#4 MAC) - 0 wins
2008 - KSU #9 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
2009 - Akron #13 (#5 MAC) - 0 wins
2010 - Ohio #14 (#9 MAC) - 1 win
2011 - Akron #15 (#6 MAC) - ?

(03-14-2011 10:40 AM)CMUprof Wrote: [ -> ]This was posted on the CMU forum by a poster. Not sure where the info came from and I can't attest to its accuracy:

I just wanted to check some research based off of comment above. Going back to 1990 (20 years ago) and using teams :

MAC teams seed position -
9th - twice (EMU in 1996 and Kent State in 2008)
10th - twice
11th - 5 times
12th - 4 times
13th - 7 times
14th - 1 times
15th - 2 times (Ball State - who was a #1 seed in the MAC tourney in 1993 and Akron - #6 seed in 2011)

Year by Year (in years w. 2 teams listed, the first won the conference tourney):

1990 - BSU #12 seed (#1 in MAC tourney) - 2 NCAA wins
1991 - EMU #12 (#1 MAC) - 1 win
1992 - Miami #13 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
1993 - BSU #15 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
1994 - Ohio #12 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
1995 - BSU #12 (#4 MAC) - 0 wins, Miami #12 (#1 MAC) - 1 win
1996 - EMU #9 (#1 MAC) - 1 win
1997 - Miami #13 (#2 MAC) - 0 wins
1998 - EMU #13 (#4 MAC) - 0 wins, WMU #11 (#2 MAC) - 1 win
1999 - KSU #11 (#2 MAC) - 0 wins, Miami #10 (#1 MAC) - 2 wins
2000 - BSU #11 (#2 MAC) - 0 wins
2001 - KSU #13 (#2 MAC) - 1 win
2002 - KSU #10 (#1 MAC) - 3 wins
2003 - CMU #11 (#1 MAC) - 1 win
2004 - WMU #11 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
2005 - Ohio #13 (#4 MAC) - 0 wins
2006 - KSU #12 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
2007 - Miami #14 (#4 MAC) - 0 wins
2008 - KSU #9 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
2009 - Akron #13 (#5 MAC) - 0 wins
2010 - Ohio #14 (#9 MAC) - 1 win
2011 - Akron #15 (#6 MAC) - ?

Eastern Michigan won twice in 1991.

Add an additional win for EMU in 1996. The NCAA ended up giving EMU the win against UCONN in 1996 because his royal pompus Calhoun used an ineligible player in that game.

(03-14-2011 10:40 AM)CMUprof Wrote: [ -> ]
Year by Year (in years w. 2 teams listed, the first won the conference tourney):

1990 - BSU #12 seed (#1 in MAC tourney) - 2 NCAA wins
1991 - EMU #12 (#1 MAC) - 1 win
1992 - Miami #13 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
1993 - BSU #15 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
1994 - Ohio #12 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
1995 - BSU #12 (#4 MAC) - 0 wins, Miami #12 (#1 MAC) - 1 win
1996 - EMU #9 (#1 MAC) - 1 win
1997 - Miami #13 (#2 MAC) - 0 wins
1998 - EMU #13 (#4 MAC) - 0 wins, WMU #11 (#2 MAC) - 1 win
1999 - KSU #11 (#2 MAC) - 0 wins, Miami #10 (#1 MAC) - 2 wins
2000 - BSU #11 (#2 MAC) - 0 wins
2001 - KSU #13 (#2 MAC) - 1 win
2002 - KSU #10 (#1 MAC) - 3 wins
2003 - CMU #11 (#1 MAC) - 1 win
2004 - WMU #11 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
2005 - Ohio #13 (#4 MAC) - 0 wins
2006 - KSU #12 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
2007 - Miami #14 (#4 MAC) - 0 wins
2008 - KSU #9 (#1 MAC) - 0 wins
2009 - Akron #13 (#5 MAC) - 0 wins
2010 - Ohio #14 (#9 MAC) - 1 win
2011 - Akron #15 (#6 MAC) - ?

The conference was on a roll from 1998-2003: Six years, 8 total NCAA wins. Then six consecutive years of no wins.