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I read the debate regarding teachers unions, pay, benefits and unions and am very torn in the matter because I am VERY "pro teacher" and think teaching should be a highly esteemed, well paid. professional position and am against the department of education and the teachers union, that essentially serves only to protect a monopoly.

But the much bigger issue that seems to be left out of the debate is that our current public education system (in most areas, but not all) is failing kids. What we are doing now plainly isn't working. We are getting left behind and ironically the countries that are out educating us are esentially ALL paying less to do so.

To me this is a Mike Brown type situation - what we have isn't working. Yet we continue to fight tooth and nail to protect the same system while simply continuously promising better outcomes.

Here is a GREAT new article from REASON about our education outcomes versus education cost.

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Losing the Brains Race
America is spending more money on education while producing worse outcomes.

Veronique de Rugy from the March 2011 issue

In November the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) released its Program for International Student Assessment scores, measuring educational achievement in 65 countries. The results are depressingly familiar: While students in many developed nations have been learning more and more over time, American 15-year-olds are stuck in the middle of the pack in many fundamental areas, including reading and math. Yet the United States is near the top in education spending.

Using the OECD data, Figure 1 compares K–12 education expenditures per pupil in each of the world’s major industrial powers. As you can see, with the exception of Switzerland, the U.S. spends the most in the world on education, an average of $91,700 per student in the nine years between the ages of 6 and 15. But the results do not correlate: For instance, we spend one-third more per student than Finland, which consistently ranks near the top in science, reading, and math.

Naturally, the OECD’s report has sparked calls for more spending. Speaking at Forsyth Technical Community College in North Carolina at the beginning of December, President Barack Obama said the federal government should spend more on improving achievement in math and science, much as Washington did in response to the Soviet Union’s Sputnik launch a half-century ago.

But throwing more money at poorly performing schools has not moved the needle on performance. During the last 40 years, the federal government has spent $1.8 trillion on education, and spending per pupil in the U.S. has tripled in real terms. Government at all levels spent an average of $149,000 on the 13-year education of a high school senior who graduated in 2009, compared to $50,000 (in 2009 dollars) for a 1970 graduate.

Despite the dramatic increase in spending, there has been no notable change in student outcomes. Using data provided by Andrew Coulson, an education policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, Figure 2 shows National Assessment of Educational Progress scores in reading, math, and science, along with per pupil spending. The only trend line with a pulse is the amount of spending.

More spending usually means more teachers. Last year Obama not only used stimulus funds to preserve education jobs but called for “10,000 new teachers.” Yet as Figure 3 shows, the number of students per teacher in U.S. public schools fell from 17.4 in 1990 to 15.7 in 2007.

We have tried spending more money and putting more teachers in classrooms for more than a generation, with no observable improvements to anything except the schools’ bottom lines. Why? Because of the lack of competition in the K–12 education system. Schooling in the United States is still based largely on residency; students remain tied to the neighborhood school regardless of how bad its performance may be. Federal spending on education (which amounted to 8.3 percent of total public education spending in 2007) is funneled to students through the institutions to which they are tied, largely regardless of student performance. With no need to convince students and parents to stay, schools in most districts lack the incentive to serve student needs or differentiate their product. To make matters worse, this lack of competition continues at the school level, where teacher hiring and firing decisions are stubbornly divorced from student performance, tied instead to funding levels and tenure.

If reform is to be defined by something other than the amount of money flushed down the toilet, it is time to reverse the flow of power from the top (administrators, school districts, teachers unions, governments) to the bottom (students, their parents, and taxpayers who want their money spent wisely). A first step in that direction is to change our teacher labor market practices in terms of both hiring and firing. On the hiring end, there are too many restrictions on who can become a teacher. On the firing end, we need to restore the relationship between job retention and job performance. Lisa Snell, director of education at the Reason Foundation (the nonprofit organization that publishes this magazine and does public policy research), points out in an email one recent example of how bad a school’s labor practices can be: “L.A. Unified School District laid off hundreds of its top teachers and replaced them with lower-performing teachers with seniority.”

In long-suffering California, a bipartisan coalition is supporting a new response to such irrational practices: the “parent trigger,” which allows fed-up parents whose children are in a consistently underperforming school to quickly change the school’s leadership. By signing a petition, parents can force reorganization of a school’s management or conversion into a charter school. In December parents of students at Compton Unified School District’s McKinley Elementary School did just that.

A parent trigger is not a panacea, but it introduces an element of choice (and hence competition) into a monopoly that has been shortchanging its customers and benefactors for decades. Wealthy people already exercise school choice, either by sending their kids to private schools or by choosing where to live based on school districts. The parent trigger gives less fortunate parents a similar and much less expensive tool. Along with the growth of online education and the charter school movement, these lurches in the direction of consumer choice are heartening and long overdue.

Contributing Editor Veronique de Rugy is a senior research fellow at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University.
Interesting. Not sure about that parent trigger. Is it only for underperforming schools or do they advocate it for all? Afraid administrators would spend more time pandering to the PTA's whim in the interest of keeping their job than in making tough decisions. Hard to manage effectively in that manner.

First small step should be to pull the plug on the Dept. of Education, its thousands of red tape producing bureaucrats, redundant functions, and failed policies its pushed since its birth in the last dying months of the Carter Administration just three weeks before he got the boot at the ballot box.

Dept. of Education Organizational Chart:

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(02-22-2011 11:30 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting. Not sure about that parent trigger. Is it only for underperforming schools or do they advocate it for all? Afraid administrators would spend more time pandering to the PTA's whim in the interest of keeping their job than in making tough decisions. Hard to manage effectively in that manner.

First small step should be to pull the plug on the Dept. of Education, its thousands of red tape producing bureaucrats, redundant functions, and failed policies its pushed since its birth in the last dying months of the Carter Administration just three weeks before he got the boot at the ballot box.

Dept. of Education Organizational Chart:

[Image: ed_gl_org_chart.gif]

Ay caramba!

That thing reads like its a prop for a monty python skit.

I think the central idea of what getting an education means has been lost in this country. I mean think about how education has transformed since the early days of the US. We started out with education being done largely in the homes of communities. We shifted to very small community based schools. We kept going further out to greater levels of centralized control to city wide school districts, county wide school districts. At this point tons of kids are going to a school outside their community and are being taught by teachers outside their community, being run by a raft of administrators who live outside their community, who are using policies and procedures and implemented budget plans that come from their state and Washington DC.

At every increased level of increased centralization our costs per pupil has, counter intuitively, gone up UP and our test and literacy rate have gone DOWN.

Its just not freaking working!

To get a great education all you need is teachers, kids and parents. "Where" doesn't matter. Whether you have a full service, fully staffed, cafeteria doesn't matter. Whether you have a state of the art auditorium with magnum sound system, doesn't matter. A mega gym with a rock climbing wall etc etc.

Get rid of the DOE. Force out the union. Let the governance of education be run at the state and community level. Create smaller, highly efficient schools that share amenities like a central auditorium, gym etc.

I am certain we could per pupil costs tremendously, have far fewer administrators and as competition rises among states and communities teachers would end up making more money (albeit with more standard, non-union benefit plans).
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