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=>Sorry for being a little heavy on the Miami side of things, I just know that story a little better.

CANDIDATES:

A. Geno Ford (Kent State):
Why?: Kent has the best overall record in the MAC (17-8 ) and highest RPI (94). Until last night, Kent was in first place overall. Even now, Kent is only a 1/2 game behind Miami and that half game is in the win column (being tied in loss column is what really matters in a conference race).

Why not? Kent is in 2nd place in the East. Although Kent has best overall record, Kent is just 1-8 vs. the top 100 of the RPI (that 1 win vs. Miami). 10 of the 17 wins were over teams ranked 201+ or non-DI.

B. Charlie Coles (Miami):
Why?: Miami is currently in 1st place (9-3) overall in the MAC and was picked to only finish 4th in the MAC East with zero votes to win the MAC tournament. Miami is 2nd in the MAC in RPI, 2 spots behind Kent.

Miami finds ways to win close games (10-3 in games decided by 10 points or less, 2-1 in O.T. games). Numerous come from behind victories including 7 of the 9 wins in MAC play (down in 2nd half in wins vs. Ohio, Buffalo, CMU, BSU, EMU, Toledo, and Kent)

Miami played the #1 ranked non-league schedule in the nation which may include all 4 NCAA tourney #1 seeds (Ohio State, Duke, Kansas, SDSU) plus Xavier (1st place A10/Top 25), Belmont (1st place Atlantic Sun), Cincinnati (likely NCAA tournament at large), IUPUI (2nd place Summit, NIT bubble, lock for postseason), Dayton (defending NIT champs, likely NIT participant again), and Wright State (likely postseason).

Miami has been able to grab first place despite losing arguably the best player and heart and soul (Antonio Ballard) in 6th MAC game and has been without starting PG (Q. Rollins) since the 5th MAC game. Miami's leading scorer, rebounder, and assist man, Julian Mavunga, has a foot problem that had him miss the 1st Kent game and basically prevents him from practicing. Injuries to Josh Sewell, Drew McGhee, Vince Legarza, and Chris McHenry have caused these players to miss significant time. Miami also has the MAC's only OOC win over the RPI Top 50 (#19 Xavier, #24 in AP) and 2 of the top 4 biggest OOC RPI wins.

MAC's 5 Top 100 OOC RPI Wins:
Miami over #19 Xavier,
Ohio over #53 Valpo,
Toledo over #53 Valpo,
Miami over #86 IUPUI
WMU over #99 UW-Milwaukee

After 5-9 start, Miami has had the best turnaround in the MAC.

Why Not? 14-12 (13-12 vs. DI) overall record not impressive. Gross misuse of bench in WMU game may cost Miami the MAC regular season title when all shakes out. Other than Xavier, Miami has been destroyed by good teams. Miami has had very close wins over very bad teams [3 pts at home to 4-22 Towson, 7 points at home to 7-17 Troy in a miracle fashion (down 8 or so with 3 mins remaining), come from behind @CMU, and miracles #2 and #3 vs. EMU (down 13 with 3 to go) and Toledo (scored last 9 points to win by 2)].

JohnnyMac does not like him. Many Miami fans will tell you Charlie Coles cannot recruit, cannot win without Herb Sendek's players, cannot develop players, cannot run in bounds plays, cannot draw up plays, has a boring offense, cannot play defense, cannot beat a press, cannot use his bench, plays his starters too much, plays his starters too little, is too tough on his players when they make a mistake, is too lenient on his players when they make a mistake, never beats anybody, makes stupid comments in interviews, allows too many droughts, always gives up big leads, allows his teams to play down to the competition, and generally could not lead a whore to bed.

C. Reggie Witherspoon (Buffalo):
Why?: Despite being picked dead last in the East (and had lowest voting points overall...even less than Toledo), Buffalo has been a MAC East contender and has the 2nd best overall record in the league (15-9).

Why Not? Other than hang around in the MAC East standings, Buffalo has not done much. Losing home games to Ohio and BGSU were killers. Buffalo has tailed off a bit down the stretch going 1-3 in last 4 games. Weak OOC schedule (SOS ranked #283 overall).

D. Louis Orr (BGSU):
Why?: Similar to Buffalo, despite being picked next to last in the East, BGSU has been a MAC East contender. BGSU was able to turn around an abysmal 1-8 start (only win over a non-DI) against a weak schedule, to go 11-4 in the next 15 games. Arguably has the best turnaround in the MAC if go by 1-8 start.

Why Not? Again, similar to Buffalo, other than hang around in the MAC East standings, BGSU has not done much. Home losses to WMU and Akron and @ CMU were killers. BGSU has tailed off a bit down the stretch going 1-3 in last 4 games including those 2 home losses. Despite playing one of the easiest OOC schedules in the MAC (SOS ranked #270 overall), BGSU performed very poorly.

E. Keith Dambrot (Akron):
Why?: At the halfway point of the MAC season, Akron was sitting at 3-5 in the MAC in last place in the East and #11 overall seed (due to losing tiebreakers). Since then, Akron has righted the ship with 4 straight wins to now be 7-5. Akron is currently sitting on a MAC tourney 1st round bye as the #4 seed (due to winning tiebreakers) after destroying BG by 35 points on the road. 3rd best overall RPI (#143) in the MAC.

Why Not? Rocky start to MAC play.

F. Steven Hawkins (WMU):
Why?: WMU was picked 4th in the MAC West (no votes to win MAC tournament) and yet sees itself now as in 1st place in the division and the 3rd best overall record in the MAC. Big road wins over then MAC East 1st place Miami and BGSU. WMU actually had a winning record vs. the MAC East (3-2) despite playing 2 at home and 3 on the road. WMU has a home make up vs. Kent next week. RPI of #117 is best in the West and 4th overall.

Why Not? 14-10 overall record vs. the 253rd toughest schedule in the nation is not bad, but hardly something to brag about. Losing to the 3 terrible T's [Toledo , Towson (0-16 in CAA), Troy] almost unforgivable. Also, hard to give MAC COTY award to a coach in the MAC West (but WMU can rebut that by showing the Broncs East division results).

G. Tod Kowalczyk (Toledo):
Why?: Toledo lost almost everything from an already horrible basketball team (1-15 in MAC last year), but somehow found a way to not only beat MAC West 1st place WMU, but also earn the MAC's 2nd biggest OOC win (see Charlie Coles above) over Horizon League leader (1/2 game out actually, but even in loss column) Valpo. On top of that, Toledo gave MAC overall 1st place Miami a scare (Miami had to score last 9 points of game to win by 2). That alone is worthy of consideration given the horses Toledo has to work with.

Why Not? Although expected, the team is just terrible. Hard to give COTY award to a 4-22 (3-22 vs DI)/1-11 team. But if it can be done, Tod Kowalczyk's work with this Toledo team is the one that could do it. If Toledo can win home games coming up vs. NIU and CMU, or even a road game at EMU, well, that would be interesting.

Below is the projected finishes by the media at the end of October:

Code:
East Division Predicted Order of Finish
1. Ohio – 128 points (12)
2. Kent State – 114 points (8)
3. Akron – 104 points (4)
4. Miami – 84 points
5. Bowling Green – 42 points
6. Buffalo – 32 points

West Division Predicted Order of Finish
1. Ball State – 124 points (12)
2. Central Michigan – 122 points (8)
3. Eastern Michigan – 88 points (2)
4. Western Michigan – 68 points
5. Northern Illinois – 64 points (2)
6. Toledo – 38 points
(1st place votes in parentheses)
Coaches of teams who are favored almost never win this award. It usually goes to the coach who suprised the media pre-season rankings in a good way (not a terribly difficult thing to do).
(02-17-2011 12:54 PM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ]Coaches of teams who are favored almost never win this award. It usually goes to the coach who suprised the media pre-season rankings in a good way (not a terribly difficult thing to do).

=>Exactly. Or took a team that was horrible the year before and did good the next.
Honestly, Coach Hawkins is in the best position to win it, should he win the West.

Geno Ford can't win. If he wins the MAC it was expected and therefor not extraordinary, and if he doesn't then he didn't live up to expectations.
I thought about two weeks ago that Reggie Witherspoon was in the best position to win this award and I think a lot depends on how Buffalo plays in the final four games here.. If UB can come back to secure a bye I think he is your frontrunner.. Otherwise I agree Hawkins is definitely up there and I think Charlie has done a great job at Miami especially with the injuries.
How is it that Geno can not win? He started the year with 11 new faces and is in first place. Who comes close to that? Having said that, I am forever impressed with Charley Coles. What he has done with his team is nothing short of remarkable. I like him a lot as a coach and a person.
I say either Coles or Ford. Whichever wins the East should be given the award.
=>Really surprised for no votes for Hawkins.
After he did nothing with four years of David Kool, I don't think WMU fans are high are him.
I lean toward Geno Ford. The roster turnover was a huge challange. Kent St has been most consistent MAC team all season. Non-conference results matter too. Kent St has 17 wins.
Ricardo Patton? 03-lmfao
(02-19-2011 09:40 AM)axeme Wrote: [ -> ]After he did nothing with four years of David Kool, I don't think WMU fans are high are him.

All Hawkins did with Kool is show everybody what NIU and CMU are finding out this year - you can't win this league with a one man team.

Should the Broncos somehow win the MACC, I'd vote for Hawk in a heartbeat. Maybe, if they get to the finals and lose he could still get my vote.

But you are right about our fans' sentiments, Axe.
The Broncs had some other pieces to work with, but zero depth.
(02-17-2011 01:26 PM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ]Honestly, Coach Hawkins is in the best position to win it, should he win the West.

Geno Ford can't win. If he wins the MAC it was expected and therefor not extraordinary, and if he doesn't then he didn't live up to expectations.
Kent State was picked by most to finish 3rd in the East. Given the roster turnover and keeping the team together during the injuries and suspension to Guyton and stilln having them in the hunt is extraordinary.
Call me crazy, but I think the guy who has recruited the best players and coaches them up to win the most games should be COY. That's the guy I want coaching my team.

And since the award is given out before the tourney, I can't see a West team coach winning it.

I'd give it to the coach of which team wins the East.
Hawkins- he lost his Cool but has made the most of it. AND he took pity on Toledo.... on the other side of the aisle: If Tricia Cullop doesn't win unanimously something is wrong with the process (pending the results of the last three games, of course).
Coach K in no way deserves COTY, but it's interesting that he's been coaching a team that had just 7 scholarship players to start the year and are now down to just 5 scholarship players for the rest of the season (2 are out with season-ending injuries).
(02-21-2011 10:36 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote: [ -> ]Coach K in no way deserves COTY, but it's interesting that he's been coaching a team that had just 7 scholarship players to start the year and are now down to just 5 scholarship players for the rest of the season (2 are out with season-ending injuries).
From what I hear about the transfers, he will have his opportunity to win it next year.
I have posted before I think Coles is a bit overrated based on his MAC tournament results the past 10 years or so, but he has been a great regular season coach. He has not won the MAC East a lot, but his teams are always in the hunt despite not being the most "talented". The team could have tanked after Ballard's injury, but it got through the West and the Kent State win has them in position to get either the No. 1 or No. 3 seed.

I guess after all that I am picking Coles. I would probably pick Ford if he had another road win or two.
Why is Reggie Witherspoon not getting any support from opposing fans? This team was picked by the other coaches and the media to finish dead last this season and they are fighting for a Mid-American Conference Regular Season title and a bye in the MAC Tournament.
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