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Kendrick Roberts

I have to agree with the kid, why wouldn't a receiver want to come here?

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If he wanted to win a MAC championship?

(02-02-2011 09:46 AM)MajorHoople Wrote: [ -> ]If he wanted to win a MAC championship?

I would think he wanted to win a national championship because that would mean he was at a BCS school. I doubt when he was being recruited, a MAC championship was on his mind. When he realized a national championship isn't in the cards, I would think a place where he can enhance his ability as a WR and catch enough balls to work towards becoming a pro became most important.

Im sure he wants to win, but I think its silly to assume that kids aren't concerned with their personal development and profile. What else does the MAC have to offer besides playing time to the better recruits so they get noticed? We aren't going to be in the BCS after all.

(02-02-2011 09:51 AM)Stampede your face!! Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-02-2011 09:46 AM)MajorHoople Wrote: [ -> ]If he wanted to win a MAC championship?

I would think he wanted to win a national championship because that would mean he was at a BCS school. I doubt when he was being recruited, a MAC championship was on his mind. When he realized a national championship isn't in the cards, I would think a place where he can enhance his ability as a WR and catch enough balls to work towards becoming a pro became most important.

Im sure he wants to win, but I think its silly to assume that kids aren't concerned with their personal development and profile. What else does the MAC have to offer besides playing time to the better recruits so they get noticed? We aren't going to be in the BCS after all.

Hoople is just jerking your chain, in a way.

With Cubits O it certainly is going to give a WR a chance to pile up #'s. But at this point I believe coach realizes he is on the clock and that his O needs to generate a trophy or two. Hopefully these WR's will also realize that down field blocking will also be a ticket. When you win you get onto bigger stages that provide opportunities normally not available.

Yeah, and how many of those same kids that went to BCS schools and will be sitting at home watching 15 MAC players in the super bowl on Sunday? I would say looking at the list of MAC players that most of them are contributing strongly to their individual team success.

It is not where you come from in life, but what you put into life.

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(02-02-2011 09:51 AM)Stampede your face!! Wrote: [ -> ]We aren't going to be in the BCS after all.

Most of us would settle for MACC once in awhile.

All things being equal - if a kid's a competitor and team player, wouldn't he choose the school that has history-best chance of winning?

(02-02-2011 10:22 AM)acer1 Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, and how many of those same kids that went to BCS schools and will be sitting at home watching 15 MAC players in the super bowl on Sunday? I would say looking at the list of MAC players that most of them are contributing strongly to their individual team success.

It is not where you come from in life, but what you put into life.

Always proud to be a Bronco.

That is exactly my point. Kendrick Roberts will have an opportunity as a MAC player to display his skills much easier than he would have at Iowa or a BCS school, meaning the decision to come to Western and get on the field in a program that throws the ball is a good personal decision. I doubt it has much to do with MAC Championships, thats what we hope happens from getting good players. Im not doubting Roberts wants to win, but lets face it, his personal development is going to be the most important thing to him. And if he takes that approach, he is going to help WMU win football games.

I would venture to guess, some of these kids don't even know what conference WMU plays in when they first start being recruited.

One thing that concerns me about this year's recruiting class is that I only see three in-state players. Central out-recruits us every year in-state, getting lots of productive players. This year, they've got an awesome quarterback -- I can't think of his name, but I believe it starts with the letter "N." (Not that I don't like Carder a lot) Anyhow, I'm sure someone will say that Michigan doesn't have much in-state talent but Central beats us to the best players year-in and year-out -- and, I hate to say it, they also beat us on the field. Why aren't we getting our share of good in-state players?

Beat us to instate talent? You can diasgree with Cubit, but Niznak was the only guy in michigan that chose CMU over WMU(And its tough to sell, oh you will have to wait 3 years before you have a chance of playing. CMU could offer a chance to play right away). Roberts, McKinney, and Currie all chose WMU over CMU. Just because CMU took about 15 guys from michigan, doesn't mean they all had WMU offers or are even D1 players.

All coaches have different recruiting philosophies. Cubit has changed his several times in his tenure already. Enos seems like a guy that will take chances on guys that had are good high school players, but maybe have played against a little worse competition in High School than others.

We will see how it pans out in a couple years.

Could we all please STFU about the in-state talent thing!! SO F-ING IRRELEVENT!

(02-02-2011 11:04 AM)GEORGEWINS Wrote: [ -> ]One thing that concerns me about this year's recruiting class is that I only see three in-state players. Central out-recruits us every year in-state, getting lots of productive players. This year, they've got an awesome quarterback -- I can't think of his name, but I believe it starts with the letter "N." (Not that I don't like Carder a lot) Anyhow, I'm sure someone will say that Michigan doesn't have much in-state talent but Central beats us to the best players year-in and year-out -- and, I hate to say it, they also beat us on the field. Why aren't we getting our share of good in-state players?

Interesting.............the Chippies are complaining because Enos is too hung up on Michigan recruits and isn't shopping Illinois (Lefevour) and Florida (Antonio Brown) for skill position talent.

No one in modern times (last 15 years) has won championships on the backs of Michigan talent.

I had a friend who refs football and basketball around the state and he said talent in MI is as low as it's ever been. He cited the decline of the PSL as an example of how bad things have gotten. Go ahead, load up on MI talent and see what it gets you. Got Dan Enos 3 wins, we'll see if he can build on that.

(02-02-2011 12:38 PM)Chipdip1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-02-2011 11:04 AM)GEORGEWINS Wrote: [ -> ]One thing that concerns me about this year's recruiting class is that I only see three in-state players. Central out-recruits us every year in-state, getting lots of productive players. This year, they've got an awesome quarterback -- I can't think of his name, but I believe it starts with the letter "N." (Not that I don't like Carder a lot) Anyhow, I'm sure someone will say that Michigan doesn't have much in-state talent but Central beats us to the best players year-in and year-out -- and, I hate to say it, they also beat us on the field. Why aren't we getting our share of good in-state players?

Interesting.............the Chippies are complaining because Enos is too hung up on Michigan recruits and isn't shopping Illinois (Lefevour) and Florida (Antonio Brown) for skill position talent.

No one in modern times (last 15 years) has won championships on the backs of Michigan talent.

I had a friend who refs football and basketball around the state and he said talent in MI is as low as it's ever been. He cited the decline of the PSL as an example of how bad things have gotten. Go ahead, load up on MI talent and see what it gets you. Got Dan Enos 3 wins, we'll see if he can build on that.

One other thing................ The Chips have a boat load of verbals from guys with offers from..............the Chips. No one else.

If you check out WMU's list most of the recruits had multiple offers. We lost Luther Maddy to Va Tech this morning. Lost two or three others to Big Ten schools in the final moments. You can compete for recruits, or you can settle for the lap dogs who would have been there any time you wanted them.

(02-02-2011 01:33 PM)Chipdip1 Wrote: [ -> ]We lost Luther Maddy to Va Tech this morning. Lost two or three others to Big Ten schools in the final moments.

Are we keeping more than we are losing? It's a risky strategy, to be sure, especially for a program that hasn't been bowling for a couple years and might not have the recent "pull" like an NIU might have.

If many of our key hold-outs are opting for "big name" schools at the last minute, then on the surface it doesn't appear to be significantly better than CMU's strategy of collecting a bunch of early in-state recruits that very few others want.

Quote:Are we keeping more than we are losing? It's a risky strategy

It worked so well last year, we brought in 18 freshmen who contributed. Won't work as well this year, but it'll work better than bringing in 25 guys from MI.

Finishing second on a kid that goes to a BCS school is as good as not being considered at all - he doesn't make any plays-win any games for you either way.

Hiller4Hyz ... you sure are defensive about things, aren't you? What a punk to respond like that. I'm asking legitimate questions. Circling the wagons and saying there's no instate talent here is ridiculous. Check out MSU's roster.

I see the way the Free Press and News rank the Michigan recruits, and we only get a few each year. CMU must be getting some quality instate players -- they've been beating us consistently for 35 years with mostly in-state talent. We get some terrific players out of state -- that's for sure. But we also end up with a whole lot of kids who take off back to Florida after a year or two.

Have you ever been out of Kalamazoo County in your life?

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I think we've figured out who that guy on mlive is that is harping on the lack of in state recruits with his bass awkwards thought process.

(02-02-2011 03:10 PM)GEORGEWINS Wrote: [ -> ]Hiller4Hyz ... you sure are defensive about things, aren't you? What a punk to respond like that. I'm asking legitimate questions. Circling the wagons and saying there's no instate talent here is ridiculous. Check out MSU's roster.

I see the way the Free Press and News rank the Michigan recruits, and we only get a few each year. CMU must be getting some quality instate players -- they've been beating us consistently for 35 years with mostly in-state talent. We get some terrific players out of state -- that's for sure. But we also end up with a whole lot of kids who take off back to Florida after a year or two.

Have you ever been out of Kalamazoo County in your life?

GW, I just can't believe how much the topic is repeatedly revisited ad nauseum.
And no, I have never been out of Kalamazoo County. Any suggestions?

Quote:And no, I have never been out of Kalamazoo County. Any suggestions?

Battle Creek?