Here's their current average - needs to add up to 200, some has obviously changed since Big East Play. I personally think our seniors play too much. I like the fact that Jackson in about half of the playing time has as many blocks and steals as Thomas.
Player MIN/G(current) Mine
Dion Dixon 27 28
Yancy Gates 27 28
Sean Kilpatrick 20 25
Cashmere Wright24 24
Rashad Bishop 25 15
Ibrahima Thoma 20 15
Larry Davis 16 15
Darnell Wilks 15 10
Justin Jackson 12 25
Anthony McClain 5 10
Jaquon Parker 9 5
200
Well, I didn't see the St. Johns win. And I still argue UC got alot of help from St. Johns poor FT shooting.
But a win's a win, so to speak. So don't mess with the lineup and alotted time to the bench players that got that win. Roll it out there again until it nets you a loss. Something obviously worked, so don't abandon it quite yet.
(01-23-2011 09:03 PM)Vottomatic Wrote: [ -> ]Well, I didn't see the St. Johns win. And I still argue UC got alot of help from St. Johns poor FT shooting.
But a win's a win, so to speak. So don't mess with the lineup and alotted time to the bench players that got that win. Roll it out there again until it nets you a loss. Something obviously worked, so don't abandon it quite yet.
So we should have 4 guys get 2 fouls 10 min into the game?
It has more to do with matchups than anything, but a couple things are clear:
1. Jackson has earned more playing time. McClain does too.
2. Thomas has earned less.
3. SK is a liability on defense. You wanting to play him even more doesn't make much sense to me. Can't afford to give away free baskets.
You give minutes based on the flow of the game and that includes the foul situation. I really think Mick has done a solid job at managing minutes.
I agree with shane, Mick is doing a solid job with the rotation, no one knows until post game who's not up to it on any given day, Mick has stated the whole team never quits so it sounds to me like everyone is on board with what Mick's trying to do.
(01-23-2011 10:40 PM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote: [ -> ]It has more to do with matchups than anything, but a couple things are clear:
1. Jackson has earned more playing time. McClain does too.
2. Thomas has earned less.
3. SK is a liability on defense. You wanting to play him even more doesn't make much sense to me. Can't afford to give away free baskets.
I had not really noticed him being that pathetic on D, until (it was either Hardy or Horne), made a quick move and went around him like he was a revolving door for the dunk.
That's unfortunate because he is some kind of offensive savant.
Till SK can learn his responsibilities on D, he comes off the bench as a zone breaker and spark. No matter what Coach PDoc says. It's not a physical limitation or want to...he gets caught over committing or peeking at times and it leads to open looks.
Jackson's minutes will increase. Just part of the frosh curve. Never been worried about him growing into more minutes.
I disagree about putting Kilpatrick back on the bench. Dude has an off night and everyone turns on him in comedic fashion. Dixon had a bad night too.
Thomas had a good night in 10 minutes of play. I guess we should reinstate him to the starting lineup? Whatever.
Surely Kilpatrick was the target of the opposing defensive scheme. He's not that big of a secret. And was the reason that Jackson and Gates had more space in the low post.
(01-23-2011 10:40 PM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote: [ -> ]It has more to do with matchups than anything, but a couple things are clear:
1. Jackson has earned more playing time. McClain does too.
2. Thomas has earned less.
3. SK is a liability on defense. You wanting to play him even more doesn't make much sense to me. Can't afford to give away free baskets.
like with most freshmen, increased playing time usually gives them more experience on defense and they start to adapt.
(01-24-2011 09:02 AM)Vottomatic Wrote: [ -> ]I disagree about putting Kilpatrick back on the bench. Dude has an off night and everyone turns on him in comedic fashion. Dixon had a bad night too.
Thomas had a good night in 10 minutes of play. I guess we should reinstate him to the starting lineup? Whatever.
Surely Kilpatrick was the target of the opposing defensive scheme. He's not that big of a secret. And was the reason that Jackson and Gates had more space in the low post.
For a guy who did not watch the game you have a bunch of opinions on what you saw, Chatter.
SK tries hard on defense, but is still learning. He got blown by for a layup at least once and seemed to struggle on defense a good bit Saturday.
Coming off the bench is working. Why mess with it? Some players try to do too much when they start and some guys, especially young guys, do a better job watching the game to start with. When you are on the bench, you can observe the opponent and learn. This can be very helpful as you can get tips to how to defeat a defender (Yeah watching tape helps too, but every night is different and every little bit helps). It certainly has worked for SK, so why mess with it? Plus he is getting plenty of minutes and as his game matures, he should see more and more.
(01-24-2011 07:16 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote: [ -> ] (01-23-2011 10:40 PM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote: [ -> ]It has more to do with matchups than anything, but a couple things are clear:
1. Jackson has earned more playing time. McClain does too.
2. Thomas has earned less.
3. SK is a liability on defense. You wanting to play him even more doesn't make much sense to me. Can't afford to give away free baskets.
I had not really noticed him being that pathetic on D, until (it was either Hardy or Horne), made a quick move and went around him like he was a revolving door for the dunk.
That's unfortunate because he is some kind of offensive savant.
SK has definitely been a liability on defense this year. He'd be getting much more time this season if he wasn't.
I really did like what I saw of Jackson. He is an explosive athlete that UC hasn't had since Maxiell / Hicks.
(01-24-2011 09:33 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-24-2011 09:02 AM)Vottomatic Wrote: [ -> ]I disagree about putting Kilpatrick back on the bench. Dude has an off night and everyone turns on him in comedic fashion. Dixon had a bad night too.
Thomas had a good night in 10 minutes of play. I guess we should reinstate him to the starting lineup? Whatever.
Surely Kilpatrick was the target of the opposing defensive scheme. He's not that big of a secret. And was the reason that Jackson and Gates had more space in the low post.
For a guy who did not watch the game you have a bunch of opinions on what you saw, Chatter.
Gotta play SK 25-30 minutes a game.
Just like Yancy draws a defensive crowd, so does SK. Other guys need to step up. The more weapons on the floor, the more trouble we are.
No opponent worries about Thomas or Bishop or Cash. They are concerned about Dixon, SK and Gates at this point. Need all 3 on the floor.
(01-24-2011 09:33 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-24-2011 09:02 AM)Vottomatic Wrote: [ -> ]I disagree about putting Kilpatrick back on the bench. Dude has an off night and everyone turns on him in comedic fashion. Dixon had a bad night too.
Thomas had a good night in 10 minutes of play. I guess we should reinstate him to the starting lineup? Whatever.
Surely Kilpatrick was the target of the opposing defensive scheme. He's not that big of a secret. And was the reason that Jackson and Gates had more space in the low post.
For a guy who did not watch the game you have a bunch of opinions on what you saw, Chatter.
Dude can create a better gameplan than our coaching staff. What do you expect?
(01-24-2011 11:23 AM)Vottomatic Wrote: [ -> ] (01-24-2011 09:33 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-24-2011 09:02 AM)Vottomatic Wrote: [ -> ]I disagree about putting Kilpatrick back on the bench. Dude has an off night and everyone turns on him in comedic fashion. Dixon had a bad night too.
Thomas had a good night in 10 minutes of play. I guess we should reinstate him to the starting lineup? Whatever.
Surely Kilpatrick was the target of the opposing defensive scheme. He's not that big of a secret. And was the reason that Jackson and Gates had more space in the low post.
For a guy who did not watch the game you have a bunch of opinions on what you saw, Chatter.
Gotta play SK 25-30 minutes a game.
Just like Yancy draws a defensive crowd, so does SK. Other guys need to step up. The more weapons on the floor, the more trouble we are.
No opponent worries about Thomas or Bishop or Cash. They are concerned about Dixon, SK and Gates at this point. Need all 3 on the floor.
I still dont understand how Bishop gets the minutes he gets. He's solid on defense but he is not a great defender by any means to be getting the amount of PT he does, because the guy is a complete liability on the offensive end.
from my view SK needs to play more...
but I'm not coach, I don't sit in on practices, I don't see who is busting their butt, who isn't, who listens, who doesn't and the 1000 other variables that Coach Cronin see's that I don't. I have to think the man has what he thinks is the best line up out there and is dividing pt based on his professional opinion.
(01-24-2011 07:20 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Till SK can learn his responsibilities on D, he comes off the bench as a zone breaker and spark. No matter what Coach PDoc says. It's not a physical limitation or want to...he gets caught over committing or peeking at times and it leads to open looks.
Jackson's minutes will increase. Just part of the frosh curve. Never been worried about him growing into more minutes.
I say start SK. Our defense isn't winning any games for us so lets at least try not to fall so far behind. Lets play our best guys. I know defense is important--and we should still play it but lets be honest, There's a ton of defensive specialist in high school and unless they are 7 foot, nobody cares. We have trouble scoring, so lets get our best scorers out there.
53-51 on the road? Our defense won our last one to be sure.
SK is going to get 23-25 minutes in games he is contributing. If his guy scores easy buckets, you got to pick when he gets minutes IMO.
(01-24-2011 04:10 PM)b Wrote: [ -> ] (01-24-2011 07:20 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Till SK can learn his responsibilities on D, he comes off the bench as a zone breaker and spark. No matter what Coach PDoc says. It's not a physical limitation or want to...he gets caught over committing or peeking at times and it leads to open looks.
Jackson's minutes will increase. Just part of the frosh curve. Never been worried about him growing into more minutes.
I say start SK. Our defense isn't winning any games for us
??? I don't know how you can say that. Our D won us several games this year.