this point in his career? I contend he's a much better rebounder, as good a slashing type scorer around the basket, not as good from the perimeter, and definitely not as good at the free throw line. Defensively he might be as good, just not as long. If he can somehow learn to shoot free throws, and I've seen him make some nice perimeter shots, he could be just as good by next year as Shane was his senior year.
Of course he won't have Stevie, Fowler, Matt, BP and Mike Smith around to help.
(01-08-2011 12:52 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]this point in his career? I contend he's a much better rebounder, as good a slashing type scorer around the basket, not as good from the perimeter, and definitely not as good at the free throw line. Defensively he might be as good, just not as long. If he can somehow learn to shoot free throws, and I've seen him make some nice perimeter shots, he could be just as good by next year as Shane was his senior year.
Of course he won't have Stevie, Fowler, Matt, BP and Mike Smith around to help.
Courtney's a nice kid. He plays hard. I'm glad we have him. But he doesn't compare at all to Shane Edwards.
Maybe not from a pro potential, but as a college player, I don't think there's that much difference. If you look at the stats, Shane wasn't a dominating scorer or rebounder. Yes he was good, but not great. He wasn't, IMO, nearly as tough as Courtney on the boards. I always saw him as a somewhat soft player. More finnesse than toughness. Would I love to have another like him? Darn right. But I think a comparison can be made. And remember I'm comparing junior year to junior year. Let's give Courtney the rest of this year and next to make an accurate comparison.
(01-08-2011 01:18 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]Courtney's a nice kid. He plays hard. I'm glad we have him. But he doesn't compare at all to Shane Edwards.
That would be my opinion too.
I do think they compare statistically as Jrs, but their is just alot of difference in them athletically. Courtney is a blue collar plugger and Shane was a Thouroghbred athletically.
(01-08-2011 02:13 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]But he doesn't compare at all to Shane Edwards.[/b]
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But he does compare to Richard Hardman, and he was a pretty fair player for us.
(01-09-2011 03:45 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ] (01-08-2011 02:13 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]But he doesn't compare at all to Shane Edwards.[/b]
But he does compare to Richard Hardman, and he was a pretty fair player for us.
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That's a pretty good comparison.
(01-09-2011 04:06 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ][quote='MICHAELSPAPPY' pid='6108348' dateline='1294605917']
But he does compare to Richard Hardman, and he was a pretty fair player for us.
I like Courtney a lot, but personally I don't think he could carry Richard Hardman's jock.
(01-09-2011 04:14 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-09-2011 04:06 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ][quote='MICHAELSPAPPY' pid='6108348' dateline='1294605917']
But he does compare to Richard Hardman, and he was a pretty fair player for us.
I like Courtney a lot, but personally I don't think he could carry Richard Hardman's jock.
I agree, Hardman was a better all around player. However, Courtney is more comparable to him than he is to Shane Edwards.
(01-09-2011 04:14 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]I like Courtney a lot, but personally I don't think he could carry Richard Hardman's jock.
Well, keep in mind we haven't seen Courtney as a senior yet, either.
The similarities to Richard are that both give you everything they've got. They work very hard on the boards. Richard became a fairly decent perimeter shooter. Not 3's but from the free throw line extended. And they were and are both quality young men. I love Courtney's effort and while he doesn't always score a lot of points, he does enough little things to help you win. His Achilles heel is his free throw shooting which I feel can be corrected at some point.
(01-10-2011 11:04 AM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]The similarities to Richard are that both give you everything they've got. They work very hard on the boards. Richard became a fairly decent perimeter shooter. Not 3's but from the free throw line extended. And they were and are both quality young men. I love Courtney's effort and while he doesn't always score a lot of points, he does enough little things to help you win. His Achilles heel is his free throw shooting which I feel can be corrected at some point.
I'm sure it can. The question is will it be before he graduates.
(01-09-2011 04:21 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ] (01-09-2011 04:14 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]I like Courtney a lot, but personally I don't think he could carry Richard Hardman's jock.
Well, keep in mind we haven't seen Courtney as a senior yet, either.
That jock will still weigh the same next year, and he still won't be a Richard Hardman. Just my opinion Pappy. They just don't make many Richard Hardmans.
(01-10-2011 11:38 AM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]They just don't make many Richard Hardmans.
You said a mouthful there!